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  3. the most heated and popular topic in all of UIL! even though we are a year early, its not too early to start predictions, have thoughts, and form opinions right? have fun!!
  4. Gatesville's growth has also been crazy, 2021 they were state alternates, 2024 they were state finalists, not even being 10th place either, probably by the next realignment it will be CS, SS, Davenport (if SS and Davenport don't move up since they have the highest numbers [1200+]) then those schools + Gatesville could be fighting for the podium
  5. Area C is going to, again, be one of the toughest uil areas. What do yall think happens in that area for state?
  6. I don't know how much their shows cost, but I do know it costs a decent-sized Texas band $500,000 or more to make the trip to Indianapolis. That's a half a million dollars. It's jaw-dropping. That's why I find the somewhat dismissive and cavalier attitude often seen on hornrank from the midwest homers regarding the incredible difficulty and expense of such a trip, to be irritatingly condescending.
  7. i still don't understand why neither comes down at least once every 4 yrs. it could be their equivalent of a fun out-of-state Nats trip! winning BOA-SA is a huge accomplishment, only maybe slightly edged out by winning Nationals. even just making finals at SA is huge. do they really just spend all that money on designers?? are theirs just that much more expensive?! je ne comprends pas!
  8. you were in color guard?!!! that's so cool!! a lil different in that era tho, for sure. LOL. it's also neat that u went on to win Nats as a director for the same program. a bit delayed, but you still got a championship!!
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  10. Better yet, I'd love for Avon and Carmel to come on down to San Antonio in the same year, and see how they measure up against ALL the top Texas bands.
  11. Some of us can remember the Westfield HS Band (school opened in Fall 1981), finished second to Marian Catholic in 1985. First Texas band at GN, first Texas GN finalist. I’d say I wasn’t born yet 😂, but I was actually an oboist and color guard member at Westfield those four years.
  12. i just want whichever band wins BOA-SA next season to be one of the ones attending Nats. it's been waaaay too long since that's happened.
  13. Meanwhile Vandy saunters into the 2019 marching season and says, “hey, I think we will try out GN for the first time ever” and then proceeds to win it.
  14. Kennesaw Mountain tho... established in 2000, made National Finals in 2002... some others as well. CTJ opened in 2008 and made finals in 2011.
  15. We need to go back in time to the first Covid to make UIL stay the same way it always was. THATS RIGHT, We need to go back in time to the first Covid to make UIL stay the same way it ALWAYS was.
  16. Bridgeland is the youngest band to make finals (8), the first CFISD school to make finals, and the highest BOA score of any CFISD school.
  17. And despite all the varying band sizes you mentioned...all three schools have the same overall student population.
  18. Interesting 2024 State Enrollment Numbers For State Finalists UIL Enrollment 4A Football Division 1 Celina 1173 1 2 PC. 1166 1 3 Davenport 1295 1 4 SS 1290 1 5 CS. 952 2 6 Calallen 1179 1 7 West Plains 1162 1 8 Gatesville 782 2 9 Canyon 1095 1 10 NL 675 2
  19. A reminder that this realignment isn’t for next year but the year after. This would, however, send tremors through 4A. Suddenly CS, SS, and Davenport would be fighting for the medals.
  20. if celina and panther creek both move up, then the chanpion battle will be CRAZY we've always had bands who've repeatedly won 4A (argyle, celina, probably more), so if celina and pc move up, (possibly davenport as well because their band was massive), their will only be a few bands that actually have a really good chance at winning state like SS, CS, Canyon, Randall, etc.
  21. I don’t believe that is accurate. There’s currently a massive expansion of the existing high school. I was at the UIL competition they hosted and it was a mess at the back of the school. My understanding is they want to stay a one HS town for as long as possible. Frisco is opening up smaller high schools moving forward so there might be additional 4a frisco schools in the future. We will also at some point have another argyle school, but I believe they are starting as a 3a.
  22. I was at the Celina Competition they hosted this year to watch Celina, North Lamar, Farmersville and Mineola and a person working there told me they are in the process of building a 2nd high school. I know there is a tremendous amount of school construction going on there.
  23. It absolutely is! So very happy for my hometown band!!
  24. I believe PC now has all four grades but I could be wrong. If not this year, def next year I found a news article that quoted Celina at 1336 for the 24-25 school year. I could not find a recent count for PC. I saw a post on here a while back that said the Celina middle school ( I believe there is only one) has over 500 kids in the band. With that type of growth coming up, I think celina will definitely move up unless UIL significantly changes the numbers. I thought I read somewhere that PC has lower numbers than celina but I don’t know where I found that. im also wondering about Davenport. Their band certainly was big.
  25. The UIL rubrics have changed a lot in just the past few years, and have been split into separate branches: Open Class and Military Class. So, UIL Open Class is much more aligned with BOA rubrics now. Perhaps that will eventually play out with TX bands taking home the Eagle more often. In general, TX bands do seem to be getting more competitive: The BOA San Antonio Super Regional and UIL State contests are very high level, arguably the highest nationwide as a whole. There just seem to be the few perennial exceptional bands (Avon, Carmel, Broken Arrow) that manage to stay on top at GN, though TX bands did break through in 2007, 2013, and 2019 (seems TX is due in 2025 ) As for "limitations of practice" -- I cannot imagine H.S. bands practicing any more than they already do! How would that even be possible and still get other things done such as, oh, class work ? What more do those consistent GN top placement bands actually do that don't have these limitations? Or are there other factors? But I suppose this is a discussion for another place.
  26. Well under the current threshold yes, but UIL always raises the cutoffs to try and keep an even number of schools in each classification. There were several schools last year that were over the threshold for going up to 4A and going up to 5A but when UIL released the cutoffs they stayed where they were because the cutoffs got raised. I figured Panther Creek is a 100% moving up. I might be wrong but last year the school was only 9th/10th grade right and they added 11th this year?
  27. Next year sounds exciting already! *im considering going as a first time spectator to Grand Nats next year. Does anyone have any tips and tricks on best viewing seats, where to stay, etc..
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