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This is total trolling. Marcus is scored twice, there's multiple bands with different raw scores with a 1st place ordinal (perc). Cedar Ridge isn't in the top half of finals (1-7).

If you really want to spend time reading here’s the 5-judge system (used at Area) https://wwwprod.uiltexas.org/files/music/UIL_Area_Judge_Manual_(5-judge).pdf Here’s the 7-judge system (used for state for 5A/6A) https://www.uiltexas.org/files/music/UIL_5A-6A_State_Judge_Manual_(7-judge).pdf

If you really want to spend time reading here’s the 5-judge system (used at Area) https://wwwprod.uiltexas.org/files/music/UIL_Area_Judge_Manual_(5-judge).pdf Here’s the 7-judge system (used for state for 5A/6A) https://www.uiltexas.org/files/music/UIL_5A-6A_State_Judge_Manual_(7-judge).pdf

I’m so confused by your post. State is definitely not 50/50 music/visual and content/design. It’s a seven judge system across woodwinds, brass, ensemble music, percussion, visual individual, visual ensemble, and content/design captions. There is no colorguard caption. As for placements, I have no doubt that several bands CAN win it all (I think there’s realistically about 5 to 6 programs you could put in any order at the top). Who WILL win comes down to performance on the day.

I don’t this applies anymore in state finals because state uses the seven judge system.

Yeah, ditto with LISD south. It’s such a large geographic area that it’s definitely not economically a homogenous zone yet they managed for every band in the district to make it to the state contest. You can’t just buy that.

One of the judges absolutely hated Vandy tonight. Not a Coldplay fan I guess. 😂😂

they can’t though, uil has already decided that monday is the inclement weather day and there’s little chance they’d randomly move it to sunday, too many logistics changes would result.

It was fun seeing new faces in state finals last year, I’m just struggling to imagine which incumbent finalist is going to get pushed out. cedar ridge might displace someone but they’re not exactly a “fresh face”

That’s stressful and sad. This contest deserves at least 14 finalists.

you’re predicting vandy wins with no captions? that’s bold..

I know this isn’t the grand nats thread, but I’m having a hard time seeing how Leander DOESN’T make finals at GN. Who are the 12 bands that you place ahead of them?

I mean, Hebron is such a powerhouse that they could have their performance from a month ago and still make state (placing behind the other powerhouses in this area). The elite programs are just that far ahead of the mid pack programs at this point. Case in point, at BOA Austin, Rouse, as defending champs, got to pick their prelims spot and chose to go on first due to heat. They comfortably made finals and medaled.

Heads up, there’s a decent chance of rain on the day of this contest which could cause all sorts of shenanigans.. Let’s hope for a fair weather day so this thing can go without a hitch.

I think in this, there is universal agreement… 😆😆

having suffered multiple bus/traffic issues over the years, I completely understand the desire to keep travel to a minimum. I’m just saying for the kids’ sake, I’d rather not have contests at Gupton when the weather is hot. otherwise, selfishly i’d much rather it beer in my backyard than a two or three hour drive away

The amount of misinformation about judging is kinda crazy. I still hear from time to time that the 2022 6A contest was a tie but that “the judges just decided to give it to Hebron in prelims and Vandegrift in finals” as if it was a coin flip. 🤨🤨

But the warmup area at Gupton is brutal with no shade. Actually the spectator stands too, they’re getting blasted by the sun all day. I like that it’s closer for Austin bands, but dang if it isn’t hot as heck.

I dearly loved witnessing this show progress over the 2019 season and it definitely ranks amongst the greatest shows of all time. So awesome to see other bands have a chance to perform it. I recognized it from the first licks of the percussion opener. What’s the title of this show for Weatherford? Is it also Aria, Queen of the Night?

5A Area H Cedar Park and Rouse tie for 1st with Cedar Park winning the tie breaker. Cedar Park Rouse Leander Liberty Hill Glenn all advance to the state marching contest. https://www.smbc.uiltexas.org/area/results/files/area-24_5A Area H 2024.pdf

wow, crazy how different each area works. For area H the finals draw isn’t conducted till the finalists are determined on contest day. I thought something had changed when I saw your post, but no, it’s just that each area can be quite different.

Where do you find the finals draws?

So I’d say this results in CTJ and Reagan almost always being in (whereas CTJ may be on more rocky footing today). And a few other schools, (Brandeis, Churchill) having a more realistic shot at state vs constantly on the wrong side of the bubble. This comes at the expense of some Austin area schools who regularly make state but are now squeezed by Area Z

What does your thought exercise say about effects on San antonio schools’ advancement? I’m guessing a number of school that doesn’t normally appear at state world start appearing at state. This is the problem with any division of state slots, there’s going to be winners and losers in this because it is literally a zero sum game. You can only crack or pack districts, benefiting some while hurting others. I don’t know what the solution for this is but we’ve got what we’ve got..

in case anyone was wondering, I looked this up. while tie breaker rules do exist, they aren’t used when there’s a tie in prelims. If a tie is for the last advancement position, all bands tied will advance. ditto if the overall winner is a tie, tied scores will all be named as champions. while this would be exciting, I’ve never seen it happen, but this competition is so stacked, it’s going to be heartbreaking to leave deserving bands out.