and again, i never said pokerface was 17. both times i've said anything about it, it was in the form of a question. what amuses me the most about it is that he has never provided an answer, and instead lets other former bell kids inform me, i assume in an attempt to make me feel dumb for not already knowing who he is. sorry to disappoint you guys, turns out i'm not another one of your former band mates D: