Thank you, we've been working on putting together a bigger group for the first time so we'll see how that shapes out. I saw part of the Brandeis show, and it is a shame they have such a hard shot at making it to state, it really is such a good show, especially with that trombone feature. Sotomayer I'm not as familiar with but I also thought their show sounded good, at least at the drumline competition early in the year, I'd probably say they have a shot at 6th place, any other schools that might place around 6/7th?