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To add on to takigan this is my compare and contrast essay I wrote for English this year. *yes I know I am a nerd* In the world of marching band there are many different styles of judging but none are more debated than the Bands Of America (BOA) system and the Texas University Interscholastic League (UIL). Bands Of America is a nation-wide music advocacy organization, while University Interscholastic League is the governing body of any extra curricular activity in the state of Texas. It is through this paper that I will discuss the differences between the two organizations adjudication process and how one band is deemed successful over another band. When a band steps onto the field at a BOA event, the main aspects the judges are looking for are related to the overall general effect of the bands eight-minute production. The caption of overall General Effect is weighted 60% of the total score. General Effect is defined as the overall mood and feel of the show. The judges listen to how well the music fits with what they are seeing on the field. Many bands use this judging system as an opportunity to make their show a complete production, which may include having a specific story told to the audience. When a band walks onto the field for a UIL event, they are going to be judged on how well they execute their visual moves and musical cues. Their show still needs to have flow from piece to piece, but having a theme to the show is much less significant than that of a BOA style show. UIL judging sheets do not have criteria for General Effect. At a UIL competition, the judges rank bands in ordinals. They place bands in what they think their placement should be. Additionally, in UIL, there are normally five judges. Three judges evaluate music, while the last two judges evaluate marching. Each band is given a placement from every judge and then the placements are added together. It is through these rankings that bands are given a final placement. The bands are then ranked from lowest score to highest and the band with the lowest score wins. For example, Band A receives the following rankings from the 5 judges: Judge 1 = 1; Judge 2 = 1; Judge 3 = 1; Judge 4 = 3; Judge 5 = 2. When added up it makes eight. Band B gets placed Judge 1 =2; Judge 2 = 2; Judge 3 = 3; Judge 4 = 1; Judge 5 = 1, adding up to get nine. According to UIL, Band A would wins because their overall score is lower than Band B. The BOA system, on the other hand, gives each band a score in different captions. There are seven judges total. The judging panel is broken up into the following captions or assignments: Music Performance Individual, Music Performance Ensemble, Visual Performance Individual, Visual Performance Ensemble, Visual General Effect and Music General Effect. Music General Effect has two judges allocated to the caption. Judges come to a score by averaging the Music Individual and Music Ensemble scores together to come up with anywhere between 0 and 20 points for this section. For the visual portion, judges come to a score by averaging the Visual Performance Individual and the Visual Performance Ensemble together to come up with a score between 0 and 20 points for this section. Those averages are then added to the General Effect scores in both music and visual and are totaled together. The band with the highest total score out of 100 points wins. When a band staff is determining their goals and areas of concentration for their show, they take into consideration whether it is a State Marching Band year or not. If it is not a State Marching Band year, the emphasis may be more focused towards a BOA style show. A marching band show for a State year usually focuses around a musical theme, with emphasis on executing music and marching as well as possible. A marching band show with an emphasis on competing in the BOA circuit is a show with a more focused theme. Musical and visual effects are created in order to satisfy the General Effect captions of the BOA system.
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How did you get James' horn?
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Area D Marching Contest
treblemaker replied to !{dRuMlInE}!'s topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
Wrong thread? -
Area D Marching Contest
treblemaker replied to !{dRuMlInE}!'s topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
I think everyone needs to stop criticizing the judging system. What's done is done. The best bands made it through a really tough Area. Dwelling on something that you can't change really doesn't make it better. Area D will be represented well and that is all that matters. You can't place the blame on judges when the activity has always been built on people's opinions. You don't need to act like this is the first time this has ever happened. Take what you got and be happy because everyone really did give it there all and in my opinion every single band at finals deserved to make it on because everyone put in just as much hard as anyone else. Congrats to everyone who made it. You deserve it. -
Leading the pack
treblemaker replied to Liquid Midget's topic in Everything Music: Marching, Concert, Auditions and more
I don't think that is what they were implying. But nice sarcasm there. -
Area D Marching Contest
treblemaker replied to !{dRuMlInE}!'s topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
Connally and Vista Ridge were 4a Area D. -
The Metronome...
treblemaker replied to borchnork's topic in Everything Music: Marching, Concert, Auditions and more
The metronome is so that the DM can be sure about the tempo. During practice runs are a different feeling then a run at GN. The adrenalin in flowing and you are more nervous. We are human after all. When the length of your show matters the tempos are extremely important. No person is perfect but the metronome is always correct. -
[Major Event] UIL 5A Area Contest
treblemaker replied to Danpod's topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
Here is the schedule for Area D http://www.uilmusicregion18.com/pdfs/2008_...edule_Final.pdf -
I don't think he was comparing the levels of the corps but rather comparing his ability and how he thinks he could fare. Kind of like applying to college. You apply to some colleges that you might not get in to and you apply to ones you know you can get in to.
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Area D Marching Contest
treblemaker replied to !{dRuMlInE}!'s topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
I thought everyone had to earn it...? -
LD Bell 2008
treblemaker replied to guitar's topic in Everything Music: Marching, Concert, Auditions and more
Brian Youngblood. He also writes for Leander, Duncanville and Paschall that I know of. -
Area D Marching Contest
treblemaker replied to !{dRuMlInE}!'s topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
State Finalists 06/07: Connally(4a) Vista Ridge(4a) Akins Churchill Bowie Reagan Area Finalists 06: Georgetown Leander Pflugerville Westlake Cedar Park Round Rock By this list alone at least 2 bands who were formally AREA/STATE finalists in 2006 or 2007 will not make it on to Area finals this year. This is just not even fair.. -
Area D Marching Contest
treblemaker replied to !{dRuMlInE}!'s topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
It will be okay. I promise! In 06 Leander went 2nd and still made Finals. Going 2nd is pretty much as bad as going 1st. You gotta make the best of what you got and just throw it out there so the judges are sure not to forget you. Plus this is how I look at it, you start out in first place. PS. The weather is always much nicer in the morning. So you don't have to worry about melting out of your uniform. :] -
[Major Event] UIL Region Contest 2008
treblemaker replied to Danpod's topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
If Bell didn't make it to Area the world would have already exploded. -
UIL Worst System Ever I realize that thread is from forever ago but it got me thinking. Can't the same thing happen in the BOA system with one Judge giving a band a 17 and another judge in the same caption giving them a 14? I just find it interesting that they point it out as a flaw in the UIL system. Obviously it is annoying with inconsistencies like that but I really find it hard to believe that that only happens in UIL. Thoughts?
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Don't worry. He did the same thing to us last year at SA because his computer was going to die and he needed to save battery life for Churchill/Reagan/Bowie who were after us..
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[Major Event] UIL Region Contest 2008
treblemaker replied to Danpod's topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
I already asked that a while ago and here's what the genius came up with: Props to Xenon. -
[Major Event] UIL Region Contest 2008
treblemaker replied to Danpod's topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
You act as if that is not a lot. :] -
Area D Marching Contest
treblemaker replied to !{dRuMlInE}!'s topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
So that is the random draw for area? Completely random? Meaning nothing to do with distance to travel or anything? -
*looks at edit button*
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That's all confidential information. In due time my friend. Patience. My day will come soon enough.