2024 BOA Prosper (Oct. 12)

[LisbethMom]

As of August 6 according to BOA

Azle H.S., TX
Bentonville H.S., AR
Braswell H.S., TX
Commerce H.S., TX
Coweta H.S., OK
Grapevine H.S., TX
Jenks H.S., OK
Keller Central H.S., TX
L.D. Bell H.S., TX
Lake Ridge H.S., TX
Liberty H.S., TX
Lone Star H.S., TX
Marcus H.S., TX
McKinney Boyd H.S., TX
McKinney H.S., TX
McKinney North H.S., TX
Mustang H.S., OK
North Mesquite H.S., TX
Prosper H.S., TX
Rock Hill H.S., TX
Rockwall H.S., TX
Southlake Carroll H.S., TX
Wakeland H.S., TX
Waller H.S., TX
Walnut Grove H.S., TX
Whitesboro H.S., TX
Wylie East H.S., TX
Wylie H.S., TX

 

[J-Mike16]

I am not looking forward to attempting to predict this insane lineup in the future lol.

[TrenBS]

I'll make a spitball for this, but the bottom half of finals is completely unpredictable in my opinion:
1. Marcus (Visual, Music)
2. Wakeland (General Effect)
3. Prosper
4. Jenks
5. L.D. Bell
6. Bentonville
7. Keller Central
8. Rock Hill
9. Wylie East
10. McKinney Boyd
11. McKinney North
12. Lone Star
Finalist Bubble: Wylie, Mustang, Southlake, McKinney, Azle, Rockwall

Realistically, the only locks apart from the top 6 are Keller Central and Wylie East in my opinion given how their show design and execution is very consistent for BOA measures, McKinney Boyd and North have had some pretty good momentum, but this competition got a tight finals bubble, I can see some of these bands finishing either in the top 8-9, or 15th/16th

[Houston213]

Last year Rock Hill killed it. I mean coming in 6th along with beating Keller and Waxahachie. I'm curious to see how they will place this year. And I just love the Mckinney Boyd band. I saw them at State in 2022 and they might be a smaller group but man that brass section can produce sound. With a few out-of-state bands in attendance (and good ones too!) this will be a contest worth watching. I can't wait.

[BbMarching]

I will say that for those invested in the outcome of the Area J contest, this is practically a preliminary to Area J! With the combination of the Wylies, Mckinneys, and Prospers being present, itll be something of a sneak peek as to the most likely candidates for that final 4th state spot

[Tubalord11]

1 hour ago, BbMarching said:

I will say that for those invested in the outcome of the Area J contest, this is practically a preliminary to Area J! With the combination of the Wylies, Mckinneys, and Prospers being present, itll be something of a sneak peek as to the most likely candidates for that final 4th state spot

It will be helpful, but boa and UIL have pretty different judging systems. We saw Rockhill beat both of the McKinney schools at this event last year just for them to beaten by both at area two weeks later. So I wouldn’t use this too heavily for any area predictions. 

[TrenBS]

1 hour ago, Tubalord11 said:

It will be helpful, but boa and UIL have pretty different judging systems. We saw Rockhill beat both of the McKinney schools at this event last year just for them to beaten by both at area two weeks later. So I wouldn’t use this too heavily for any area predictions. 

This, although I think the regular music and visual sheets can be kinda used to get something more objective in terms of individual and ensemble consistency, but at the same time I wouldn't use it very objectively either because McKinney High beat Boyd slightly in music for Prosper, but Boyd was significantly ahead at area in both aspects

[BoneGuy4]

I’m so excited to watch this comp and see who makes finals. I’m hoping my band can make finals, however watching this will be fun no matter what.

[BoneGuy4]

This is just my 2 cents on this comp

1. Marcus
2. L.D. Bell
3. Wakeland
4. Bentonville
5. Prosper
6. Jenks
7. Keller central
8. SLC
9. Mustang
10. Rock hill
11. Wylie east
12. Rockwall
13. Wylie
14. McKinney North
15. Aledo
16. Azle
17. Braswell
18. Lake ridge
19. Grapevine
20. Walnut grove
21. Coweta
22. Liberty
23. North mesquite
24. Commerce
25. Waller
26. Whiesboro

[crunchycookie3]

Here's what I'm thinking pre-season:
1. Marcus (GE, Music) What can you say about Marcus that hasn't already been said. They'll no doubt have the cleanest, most refined show at this contest. They're coming off an excellent season last year, and I'm certain they're only looking to ramp it up for this year. Look out for them to possibly be back on top of the Lewisville Trio this year.

2. Bell (Vis) Similar to Marcus, Bell had a banner year last year--their best in over a decade--and don't forget: they outright won Prosper prelims last year. I was very impressed by how those kids moved last, especially by end-of-season, though Wakeland or Marcus could easily nab that vis caption on the strength of ensemble vis. Regardless, I think Bell is notching out a fresh identity for this historic program, and the judges seem to love it.

3. Wakeland Last year, Wakeland surged early season before having a lower than expected placement in San Antonio. I think their show this year is again relatively unoriginal, following a trend they set last year. While not necessarily presenting the freshest of concepts, they always find a way to steal my heart with their drill. 3A captions are theirs for the taking, unless Lone Star comes out swinging.

4. Bentonville Coming off a great season with Arkansas' first-ever GNats finals appearance, there's no reason to assume this group won't be in top-half.  Truthfully, I don't even know the title of their program this year, but I can't wait to see this group and I think it would be awesome to see some non-TX bands finish nicely here.

5. Jenks Similar to Wakeland, Jenks also seemed to have a great start to their season last year that didn't translate to full-season dominance. At BOA Bedford last year, they enjoyed a top-half finish among some of the biggest names in TX, even beating groups like LD Bell, Timber Creek, and Keller Central. I think the OK and AR groups will have to come out swinging in vis this year to compete with the music scene here.

6. Lone Star This is the most difficult group to place for me. Given the rapid growth in the city of Frisco and their incredible music book last year, I think 6th place is well within reach. Would love to see them in top-half and continue to contribute to the growth of Frisco ISD as another powerhouse district.

7. Prosper Prosper always seems so volatile in their placements to me, especially on their Nats years. Just when you feel like counting them out, they go and have an absolutely monster run in Nats Semis, though I think we're on the verge of seeing Cartwright-designed shows falling out of vogue. TX groups that go to Nats tend to have a later surge in their season than those that don't, and I anticipate seeing that reflected in scores here. 

8. Keller Central I'm really excited to see this show! Last year, they had one of my favorite visual programs, and I could see them being a sleeper pick for top-half this year. They've been good for a long time, but recently I've started to feel that they're becoming great. I love seeing Keller ISD becoming a force to be reckoned with in the band world. 'Another Time, Another Place' will probably be one of the most unique shows in finals here.

9. Wylie East This is where it gets a bit dicey, since there are a million bands in this 9-12 echelon for this contest--it will come down to splitting hairs. I'm hoping that Wylie East's show this year will be a little more concrete than last year's to lock into finals. With how the new Area J is looking, it will be really difficult for anyone outside of LISD to punch a ticket to state, so they will all be fighting tooth and nail for this finals appearance.

10. Rock Hill Also incredibly difficult to place. This program is so young compared to the rest on this list, and they had an incredible finish in top-half here last year. I could be way off-base thinking they'll be as low as 10th, but their weaker results toward the end of the season have me a bit hesitant to predict them toward top-half this year.

11. McKinney North In their state run last year, I was shocked by their sound--I could have sworn I was listening to a DCI hornline. Seeing them miss 5A finals was a complete shock for me, and I'm thinking they'll turn up the dial even more this year. The only weakness I picked up on was size, something that will continue to grow as the city does. I anticipate them being noticeably larger than last year, which will hopefully translate to a second, consecutive finals appearance here. 

12. Wylie I have been blown away by the quality and cleanliness of their shows for the past two years, and I'm a bit taken aback that they aren't rewarded by judges like I think they ought to be. Personally, I think they should be scoring much higher than 12th here, and I often struggle to find one thing to critique about them. Hopefully this is the year the begin receiving the recognition they deserve!

I have Mustang and Southlake Carroll just outside of finals. Ultimately, it comes down to how much Mustang can beef up their music program to compete with these TX groups in their first trip down and how clean Southlake Carroll can be by this point. I also think the prelims schedule will have a big impact when the bubble is this large, and Azle, Aledo, Rockwall, and Braswell will all certainly be on fire.

[JustaTuba]

On 8/14/2024 at 3:41 PM, TrenBS said:

I'll make a spitball for this, but the bottom half of finals is completely unpredictable in my opinion:
1. Marcus (Visual, Music)
2. Wakeland (General Effect)
3. Prosper
4. Jenks
5. L.D. Bell
6. Bentonville
7. Keller Central
8. Rock Hill
9. Wylie East
10. McKinney Boyd
11. McKinney North
12. Lone Star
Finalist Bubble: Wylie, Mustang, Southlake, McKinney, Azle, Rockwall

Realistically, the only locks apart from the top 6 are Keller Central and Wylie East in my opinion given how their show design and execution is very consistent for BOA measures, McKinney Boyd and North have had some pretty good momentum, but this competition got a tight finals bubble, I can see some of these bands finishing either in the top 8-9, or 15th/16th

bro has no faith in lone star 😭

[BoneGuy4]

 

27 minutes ago, JustaTuba said:

bro has no faith in lone star 😭

I can honestly see Lone Star getting anywhere from 7th to just outside of finals. Some of the groups ahead of them in Tren’s post have beat them previously at BOA Bedford last year. I’m very curious to see where they fall in all this chaos.

[TrenBS]

57 minutes ago, JustaTuba said:

bro has no faith in lone star 😭

Their content is never the issue, but the level of execution typically can cause inconsistent scoring for them, specifically their visuals which at Bedford was 2 points below their music scores, and overall placed below Southlake in a majority of the captions who placed below North and Forney at 11th, so unless they take a major step up Id place them around the 8-14 range depending on the bands around them

 

Definitely not throwing shade since their shows are generally great and they perform so well, but this competition is so brutal that the 7-17 bubble feels fairly interchangeable, it just depends on who is better and who is not which makes predictions for this competition fun lol

[JFNDOWBFAN]

Would love to see Rockwall to make a run at Finals...past few years they've bit knocking on the doors of a BOA final and just missing state...

[Beanbag52]

On 8/24/2024 at 6:11 PM, TrenBS said:

Their content is never the issue, but the level of execution typically can cause inconsistent scoring for them, specifically their visuals which at Bedford was 2 points below their music scores, and overall placed below Southlake in a majority of the captions who placed below North and Forney at 11th, so unless they take a major step up Id place them around the 8-14 range depending on the bands around them

 

Definitely not throwing shade since their shows are generally great and they perform so well, but this competition is so brutal that the 7-17 bubble feels fairly interchangeable, it just depends on who is better and who is not which makes predictions for this competition fun lol

Ive seen Lone Star this year, and the design of their show has gotten much better, and is visually cleaner than it was even in early competition season last year. If they can continue to improve at the rate they have they can really place high. Definitely a dark horse in the race this year!

[Tubalord11]

Prelims Schedule as of 08/26

7:45 - Commerce H.S., TX
8:00 - Prosper H.S., TX
8:15 - Lone Star H.S., TX
8:30 - McKinney H.S., TX
8:45 - McKinney Boyd H.S., TX

9:00 - BREAK

9:15 - James Martin H.S., TX
9:30 - Mustang H.S., OK
9:45 - Southlake Carroll H.S., TX
10:00 - Azle H.S., TX
10:15 - Jenks H.S., OK
10:30 - Rockwall H.S., TX
10:45 - Marcus H.S., TX
11:00 - Wylie East H.S., TX

11:15 - BREAK

12:00 - Keller Central H.S., TX
12:15 - Bentonville H.S., AR
12:30 - Lake Ridge H.S., TX
12:45 - L.D. Bell H.S., TX
1:00 - Whitesboro H.S., TX
1:15 - Rock Hill H.S., TX
1:30 - McKinney North H.S., TX
1:45 - Grapevine H.S., TX

2:00 - BREAK

2:15 - Wakeland H.S., TX
2:30 - Braswell H.S., TX
2:45 - Liberty H.S., TX
3:00 - North Mesquite H.S., TX
3:15 - Coweta H.S., OK
3:30 - Waller H.S., TX
3:45 - Walnut Grove H.S., TX
4:00 - Wylie H.S., TX

4:15 - EXH. Texas A&M Univ. Commerce Pride Marching Band

[Tubalord11]

The blocks from start to finish are just insanely stacked. Really rough times for Prosper, Lonedtar, and especially McKinney/Boyd. Prosper should be fine and could jump a good amount in finals assuming they make it, Boyd is gonna have to come out with the strongest performance the programs ever had to make finals unless they are just a complete step up. Lone Star will also be completely dependent on performance, but I feel they will be fine. I really wanna make preds but I’m holding out till the first couple weeks of comps get going. But I mean wow, what a lineup. I’m convinced this is the most stacked regional ever. 

[crunchycookie3]

I agree- the schedules this year have been particularly rough. It looks relatively balanced, though, with no more than maybe 2 top-half finalist prospects per block.
The second performance slot particularly jeopardizes Prosper's top-half prospects. I have no doubt that they'll be fantastic, but it will be a big challenge to throw a strong number that can remain in the top 6 amongst Bentonville, LD Bell, Rock Hill, Jenks, Wakeland, Marcus, and Keller Central. They definitely have an uphill battle in prelims. Similarly with Lone Star, McKinney, and Boyd--the bubble is so large here and so many other groups have more desirable performance times. Luckily, these schools are all relatively close to Prosper, so early call times shouldn't be AS egregious, and performing in the morning does mean some cooler temps (hopefully not downright cold, though.)
I think Wylie can easily make it into finals with a decent run here. They perform at the end of the least-stacked block which also happens to be the dead last performance slot. Good for them! This would mark their first finals appearance at this regional.

[TrenBS]

I’ll speak for McKinney/Boyd and frankly Lone Star in that early draw times typically arent an issue, Boyd at least has been consistently having early call times since 2018 even for later performances for these scenarios, heck we were prepared for a 3AM call time for BOA Katy in 2021 before the directors decided against it purely because we would get home around 3AM, the call time wasnt seen as a problem lol

Even last year when Boyd had the earliest call time at Area C where they performed at 8:15 on a 50 minute drive, they placed exactly where they ended up in finals, so 30 extra minutes for performance on a 25-30 minute drive is frankly pretty nice. McKinney, Prosper, and Frisco schools are very strong on consistency, so I doubt these schools with the proximity of Prosper stadium will see MUCH reduction of a score, if at all. Personally I still see Prosper in the top 6 unless their judging stays random for them in general, and while Boyd could place from 8-15, I dont think the performance time is gonna heavily affect their score and wherever they place/score is what they will deserve, along with McKinney High, North, Lone Star, etc.

TL;DR, I have confidence in MISD, PISD, and FISDs consistency and I doubt these draw times will determine anything more than +-1 placement these groups, I can’t speak for any other districts of course but these Im confident in.

Edit: MISD also starts at 7:30 across the district, so as long as the call time isnt before 5:30, most band members are already on schedule for these call times because of school lol

[JFNDOWBFAN]

On 12/20/2023 at 3:02 PM, LeanderMomma said:

The 2024 North Texas Regional will be held Oct. 12 at Prosper ISD Children's Health Stadium. 

Prelims Schedule as of 08/26/24:

7:45 - Commerce H.S., TX
8:00 - Prosper H.S., TX
8:15 - Lone Star H.S., TX
8:30 - McKinney H.S., TX
8:45 - McKinney Boyd H.S., TX

9:00 - BREAK

9:15 - James Martin H.S., TX
9:30 - Mustang H.S., OK
9:45 - Southlake Carroll H.S., TX
10:00 - Azle H.S., TX
10:15 - Jenks H.S., OK
10:30 - Rockwall H.S., TX
10:45 - Marcus H.S., TX
11:00 - Wylie East H.S., TX

11:15 - BREAK

12:00 - Keller Central H.S., TX
12:15 - Bentonville H.S., AR
12:30 - Lake Ridge H.S., TX
12:45 - L.D. Bell H.S., TX
1:00 - Whitesboro H.S., TX
1:15 - Rock Hill H.S., TX
1:30 - McKinney North H.S., TX
1:45 - Grapevine H.S., TX

2:00 - BREAK

2:15 - Wakeland H.S., TX
2:30 - Braswell H.S., TX
2:45 - Liberty H.S., TX
3:00 - North Mesquite H.S., TX
3:15 - Coweta H.S., OK
3:30 - Waller H.S., TX
3:45 - Walnut Grove H.S., TX
4:00 - Wylie H.S., TX

4:15 - EXH. Texas A&M Univ. Commerce Pride Marching Band

Looks like Breakfast burritos and BOA!

[LeanderMomma]

16 hours ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

Looks like Breakfast burritos and BOA!

Two of my favorite things!!

[ArtHouseGuy]

This will be my first time attending a BOA comp, I've almost always only gone to UIL comps instead since my band (Plano Sr) never went to BOA at least while I was there. Does anyone have a quick rundown of how BOA could differ from UIL comps, or is it gonna be largely the same?

[Tubalord11]

16 minutes ago, ArtHouseGuy said:

This will be my first time attending a BOA comp, I've almost always only gone to UIL comps instead since my band (Plano Sr) never went to BOA at least while I was there. Does anyone have a quick rundown of how BOA could differ from UIL comps, or is it gonna be largely the same?

Scoring is the big difference. For boa, you’ve got music and visual, both having an individual and ensemble judge, both being 20% of the overall score (the two judges give each band a score out of twenty, then they add and divide the two for an average)Then there’s General effect (GE), where there are two music ge and one visual ge judge. Each score out of 20 and then the three are added up for total ge which is added two the two averages of music and visual. The website Hornrank does an amazing job with breaking down results. Captions for prelims are given to each of 4 classes (A, AA, AAA and AAAA) or 1A-4A. Size is based on enrollment grades 10-12.  12 bands to finals based on score regardless of class and class championships do exhibition if they don’t make finals. Other than scoring it’s just another marching contest. Have fun here, I’ll be around as well to see these awesome programs!

[ArtHouseGuy]

On 9/25/2024 at 11:32 PM, Tubalord11 said:

Scoring is the big difference. For boa, you’ve got music and visual, both having an individual and ensemble judge, both being 20% of the overall score (the two judges give each band a score out of twenty, then they add and divide the two for an average)Then there’s General effect (GE), where there are two music ge and one visual ge judge. Each score out of 20 and then the three are added up for total ge which is added two the two averages of music and visual. The website Hornrank does an amazing job with breaking down results. Captions for prelims are given to each of 4 classes (A, AA, AAA and AAAA) or 1A-4A. Size is based on enrollment grades 10-12.  12 bands to finals based on score regardless of class and class championships do exhibition if they don’t make finals. Other than scoring it’s just another marching contest. Have fun here, I’ll be around as well to see these awesome programs!

Awesome, good to know, thanks!

[JFNDOWBFAN]

Rockwall had a strong march at Mesquite. Colorguard score not far off Hebron and one music judge even had them ahead of them!

Rockwall will go to Mckinney next weekend with a great shot at competing for the top spot. 
 

If this happens, they will be coming into BOA Prosper with a lot of confidence! 
 

They may not be a front runner to place top 3 here but making finals would be such a confidence boost for a pretty young band going into Area C