So you get to bring back one corps...

[TX Suh-nare]

I would say to bring back the Bridgemen so we could get some hippies to trip out and make a show, but then I realized that's possibly what the Cadets have been doing for two years, so I'll reconsider. (not really sure if they're really dosing, but I will say most sober people don't think about Alice in Wonderland meets a Catholic school girl)

 

I will say to resurrect 27th Lancers, though. That was a corps that, like the Vanguard, was on the cutting edge of it's time, without blowing it too out of proportion, like Bridgemen did. That corps introduced the ever famous, "whiplash drill" that was brought to Garfield in 1982. The next years, well, you know (THREE-PEAT) and it stayed there under George Hopkin's leadership.

 

We could use a corps on the edge, but not too far out there these days.

[TX Suh-nare]

  NotsolittledrummerboyCC said:

hello to all. im new. i would definitly bring back star of indiana. although im a drummer, id still have the star instead of blast.

Good choice. If you ever watch the lot vids of Star...ridiculous. They were headed by HANDS DOWN, the greatest percussion director of all time, Thom Hannum.

 

To look at his track record, he also headed the Garfield Cadets in 1987 (hint hint, still only DCI percussion section to get a PERFECT SCORE)

 

Yeah. I would bring them back for the same reasons as I would the Lancers. Very innovative, very cutting edge, but not too overboard with their ideas.

[Skippy]

  TX Suh-nare said:

Very innovative, very cutting edge, but not too overboard with their ideas.

93 was pretty overboard for the time.

[bandman1994]

Star would be great to see them come back. However I really would love to hear some more SUN-JAZZ from Suncoast Sound. Really one of the hottest hornlines in DCI for a stretch from 84-86. I know that's old school for some of you, but they, not the Cavies, were the first corps to do all original music ('85 Florida Suite, Robert W. Smith), but they had some of the greatest staff members that are still teaching in the business today (i.e. Frank Williams, Dennis Lorenza, Robert Smith, etc.) Just would have liked to see what they could have done post Div II years in the 90's without the money problems.

[TX Suh-nare]

  euro_euph06 said:

Second...if you look at their scores they only had a successful run of about four years (top 3 from '90 to '94, 6th and above the other five years). If you take a look at the other top corps (Cavaliers and Blue Devils), they have been way more successful than Star during that period of time from '85 to '93.

 

Finally...people should not bask in the glow of what was '93. It was one show (the show was great, dont get me wrong), but what makes a corps great is a series of shows. People have forgotten how great the Cavalier's are right now. Since the turn of the century, they have won 5 of 7 championships (going from 2000 to 2006). The other two years they received second place. They set the first 99.15- highest score ever to date. In those years, the havent fell below the score of 97.2-- there is no other corps in history to have done that. Zero, Zip, Nada!!! In that span of time they have averaged a score of 97.989. No other corps has averaged a score that high. I dont know what you can call greatness, but the Cavaliers sure seem to be the definition of it. Not the Star of Indiana.

 

Where is the 99.15 of Star's. Where is the 7 championships that the Cavaliers have, the 9 that the Cadets have, and the whopping 11 of the Blue Devils (whom has never placed outside of 4th place since '75....in '91 they received 5th). And lets not forget that in '93 that Star didnt win...the Cadets did. If the show is going to be called the greatest show ever, than shouldn't it have won? Shouldnt have received the 99.15? Star in their 9 year tenure in the top 12 has only won 1 title.

 

Word!

OK, man. I can see what you're saying. But I think I've got another view for you.

 

OK, to start off, when did Star of Indiana first field a corps? According to dci.org, 1985. From 1985-1993, this is one of two drum corps to never place out of finals (the other being SCV), which is a feat in and of its own. Also, most corps at the time already had a multi-decade history, and Star still ties the record for the youngest corps to ever win a DCI championship (only seven years old, tied with again SCV) and is the first drum corps to win a championship as a corps that only participated in DCI, (since most corps at the time, and even today, were formerly VFW and Boy Scout troops prior to DCI's founding).

 

Plus, DCI isn't always a sport of numbers, but also a crowd sport. Star captued the imagination and attention of the drum corps world from the start and held its spot as a crowd pleaser. Star did that the whole time it fielded a corps, and it continues that with Blast, in true Star fashion, on their own terms.

 

Now, about 1993. Yes, that show was second to The Cadets of Bergen County (playing "When Kings Go Off To War" by Holsinger), but that show completely discarded everything considered the norm for drum corps at the time when the modern corps style of music setup (in opener, ballad, drum feature, then closer) was becoming popular, and they introduced something which by TODAY'S terms (16 years later) is considered very contemporary and extremely surreal.

 

I will say you bring up an oustanding point with the Cavalier dynasty, and the Cavies of late (especially '02 and I think '03) are some of, if not the greatest corps ever fielded, period. Just don't think that it takes multiple championships to make a corps great. Many legendary shows to our eyes didn't get rings, in fact some weren't even in the top 5 (Madison '96 and Crossmen '92)

 

Just way too many words for you to chew on there.

[xbones7480]

CROSSMEN!

 

 

BRING THEM BACK TO FINALS!

[Xukaniz]

  xbones7480 said:

CROSSMEN!

 

 

BRING THEM BACK TO FINALS!

Now that they are in texas...I believe they will be