UIL 6A Area E 2024

[TheSV-001Gamer]

Timing protocols will follow like this on Saturday 

5 minutes to set up on the field

8 minutes is the performance time

2 minutes to exit the field

Total of 15 minutes for each band.

[Samuel Culper]

  On 10/31/2024 at 1:03 AM, TheSV-001Gamer said:

Timing protocols will follow like this on Saturday 

5 minutes to set up on the field

8 minutes is the performance time

2 minutes to exit the field

Total of 15 minutes for each band.

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This is standard for all UIL contests.

[TheSV-001Gamer]

  On 10/31/2024 at 1:49 AM, Samuel Culper said:

This is standard for all UIL contests.

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Yeah I'm just reiterating for those who didn't know, like those who know and those who don't 

[Valentina]

  On 10/30/2024 at 7:25 PM, lizzard2027 said:

omg another guard member 🙌

let me say first of all i LOVE the uniforms (yall are the strait laced ones right?) 

imo yall have a rlly good show, band & guard looks GIANT on the field & clean (when i saw it back in early october)

all in all, 10/10 show! i think ill get to see yall on the 1st against dulles so if i do ill update this post to add more tidbits  

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Yes we are the strait laced ones I'm glad to hear you like our show! And yeah we are playing dulles tomorrow so I hope you like the full show! 

[Yacob]

What does an electronic pre-show fall under in the timing guidelines? Does it count as setting up or is it counted as performance time?

[TheSV-001Gamer]

  On 10/31/2024 at 1:32 PM, Yacob said:

What does an electronic pre-show fall under in the timing guidelines? Does it count as setting up or is it counted as performance time?

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Pretty sure bands start their pre show with about 1 minute to go in the setting up time of 5 minutes. And it just transitions into the 8 minutes of performance time. 

[WanderingTraveler]

  On 10/31/2024 at 2:04 PM, TheSV-001Gamer said:

Pretty sure bands start their pre show with about 1 minute to go in the setting up time of 5 minutes. And it just transitions into the 8 minutes of performance time. 

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I have always been under the assumption that a band can start early, but anything performed before the official 8 minutes starts was not counted in the judging for UIL level competition. This helps with the BOA style shows that are a bit longer... But then again I have also seen the setup timer immediately switch to the 8 minute timer once music started to get played/show started.

[utee94]

  On 10/31/2024 at 2:25 PM, WanderingTraveler said:

I have always been under the assumption that a band can start early, but anything performed before the official 8 minutes starts was not counted in the judging for UIL level competition. This helps with the BOA style shows that are a bit longer... But then again I have also seen the setup timer immediately switch to the 8 minute timer once music started to get played/show started.

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Yeah I've seen it done both ways.  The way our band INTENDS it, is the former.  The electronic pre-show is timed to consume the final minute or so of the setup time, and then the first real instrument entry should occur right as it switches over to the 8 minutes.  Nothing in the pre-show is supposed to be judged.

I've also seen the 2 minute post-show timer occasionally not run at all, at both Region and Area.  At State I assume it's running but I'm always so focused moving props and equipment off the field, I never even look for the timers at State.

 

[WanderingTraveler]

  On 10/31/2024 at 2:33 PM, utee94 said:

Yeah I've seen it done both ways.  The way our band INTENDS it, is the former.  The electronic pre-show is timed to consume the final minute or so of the setup time, and then the first real instrument entry should occur right as it switches over to the 8 minutes.  Nothing in the pre-show is supposed to be judged.

I've also seen the 2 minute post-show timer occasionally not run at all, at both Region and Area.  At State I assume it's running but I'm always so focused moving props and equipment off the field, I never even look for the timers at State.

 

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Yeah the post show timer seems to be a common issue/afterthought. The last time I actually was present when a band got a penalty from a post show 2 minute run off was in like 2017. Since then, I often see the timer not start, or start super late.

[Lewahti]

im hoping the majority of the rain will happen today and tomorrow and not on saturday

it would suck for some bands to not get a finals run or be fully washed out

[MadHornist]

The chance of rain should decrease Saturday afternoon, so holding finals shouldn’t be an issue unless bands are backed up from earlier in the day.

Looking at computer forecast models, this doesn’t look like a heavy rain situation, so hopefully the contest will go off with a hitch.  
 

Question - Will the finals be divided into bottom 5 / top 5 groupings?  

[Trumpeteer__]

  On 10/31/2024 at 4:01 PM, MadHornist said:

The chance of rain should decrease Saturday afternoon, so holding finals shouldn’t be an issue unless bands are backed up from earlier in the day.

Looking at computer forecast models, this doesn’t look like a heavy rain situation, so hopefully the contest will go off with a hitch.  
 

Question - Will the finals be divided into bottom 5 / top 5 groupings?  

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I believe UIL is starting the top half bottom half system for the first time in finals

[utee94]

  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, Trumpeteer__ said:

I believe UIL is starting the top half bottom half system for the first time in finals

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Yup, they did it for our 5A Area competition last weekend.  And I didn't recall them doing it before, so it makes sense if this is the first year.

[MadHornist]

As a former French Horn player, I get warm fuzzies from the Foster French Horn solo.  I’m definitely looking forward to hearing it in finals this weekend!

[TheSV-001Gamer]

  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, Trumpeteer__ said:

I believe UIL is starting the top half bottom half system for the first time in finals

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So what about the finals draw, is it not being applied??

[Trumpeteer__]

  On 10/31/2024 at 6:02 PM, TheSV-001Gamer said:

So what about the finals draw, is it not being applied??

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From what I understand, they randomize the top and bottom halves separately, but they also have a finals draw list on the website so I'm not sure how they plan on doing things.

[Oboeish20]

  On 10/31/2024 at 6:36 PM, Trumpeteer__ said:

From what I understand, they randomize the top and bottom halves separately, but they also have a finals draw list on the website so I'm not sure how they plan on doing things.

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They will position 6-10 in the order those schools fall on the finals list. After that, they will do the same for ranks 1-5.

[Samuel Culper]

  On 10/31/2024 at 2:25 PM, WanderingTraveler said:

I have always been under the assumption that a band can start early, but anything performed before the official 8 minutes starts was not counted in the judging for UIL level competition. This helps with the BOA style shows that are a bit longer... But then again I have also seen the setup timer immediately switch to the 8 minute timer once music started to get played/show started.

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If they started the 8 min clock immediately when music started, they were doing it wrong.

For all UIL comps, every band should get 5-8-2 on the clock, no matter when they start playing. Anything that takes place before the 8 min clock is (theoretically) not judged. Playing beyond the 8 min clock should result in DQ, as well as not being clear of the field by the end of the 2 min.

One situation where I can see the 8 min clock starting immediately up the start of play is if the competition is running behind and the band's director has okayed the 8 min clock to start immediately. 

[WanderingTraveler]

  On 10/31/2024 at 11:11 PM, Samuel Culper said:

If they started the 8 min clock immediately when music started, they were doing it wrong.

For all UIL comps, every band should get 5-8-2 on the clock, no matter when they start playing. Anything that takes place before the 8 min clock is (theoretically) not judged. Playing beyond the 8 min clock should result in DQ, as well as not being clear of the field by the end of the 2 min.

One situation where I can see the 8 min clock starting immediately up the start of play is if the competition is running behind and the band's director has okayed the 8 min clock to start immediately. 

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Your last point is my exact thought as well, it’s the only time I’ve ever seen a clock start like that. But who knows. All of the shows I’ve been part of had pre-shows with us playing and they have never started early with the eight minutes.

[TheSV-001Gamer]

  On 10/31/2024 at 7:39 PM, Oboeish20 said:

They will position 6-10 in the order those schools fall on the finals list. After that, they will do the same for ranks 1-5.

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That makes a lot of sense thank you. 

Rain hasn't looked very pretty recently. Can anybody in the bands confirm if the weather is affecting their rehearsals?

[youraveragebandkid]

  On 10/31/2024 at 11:25 PM, TheSV-001Gamer said:

That makes a lot of sense thank you. 

Rain hasn't looked very pretty recently. Can anybody in the bands confirm if the weather is affecting their rehearsals?

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We’re doing just peachy over here at Foster! No rain yet!

[MarchingThings]

  On 10/31/2024 at 11:41 PM, youraveragebandkid said:

We’re doing just peachy over here at Foster! No rain yet!

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sugar land got poured on😭

[youraveragebandkid]

  On 10/31/2024 at 11:51 PM, MarchingThings said:

sugar land got poured on😭

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Well…I mean…that is a 20-25 minute difference so idk what to say pal…🤷🏼‍♀️

[MadHornist]

Clear Lake and Clear Brook have Thursday night lights, tonight.  Rain ended in time for kickoff.  It’s currently halftime.

[TheSV-001Gamer]

Weird question but are their any bands in this Area marching bent leg?