UIL 6A Area B 2024

[pjsoajeizm]

16 hours ago, BandNerd07 said:

So I really just wanted to show some recognition to a band that no one really talks about, the Sam Houston band. Ive noticed that they are so much more improved musically and visually compared to last year. Even though they don't have much of their show on the field as of this point, they are really showing off, and they may even be looking at a 1st division at UIL and advance to Area for the first time since 2016. Performance starts at 1:58:08

 

How about SGP’s performance?

[Jacob2017]

On 9/22/2024 at 12:51 AM, pjsoajeizm said:

How about SGP’s performance?

I think they're really clean for this early in the season, and (from my knowledge, I didn't go to the game against Legacy, and since it was away, there was no video of the performance) their first live performance of their competitive show.

[Jacob2017]

So GPISD streams their home football games on Youtube, halftime and all, and tonight was the Martin vs. Grand Prairie game, and unfortunately I have to honest in saying that I was not impressed with how Martin sounded on the field. They weren't blended very well, there were a bunch of people sticking out musically, and they just overall didn't sound like they were tuned the best. I know it's still fairly early into the season, and that they're still working on getting used to a new director, but still.

 

Grand Prairie, on the other hand, I was very impressed with. I think if they keep on working, they could very easily get 1's at region, and make Area.

[BandNerd07]

18 hours ago, Jacob2017 said:

So GPISD streams their home football games on youtube, halftime and all, and tonight weas the Martin vs. Grand Prairie game, and unfortunately I have to honest in saying that I was not impressed with how Martin sounded on the field. They weren't blended very well, there were a bunch of people sticking out musically, and they just overall didn't sound like they were tuned the best. I know it's still fairly early into the season, and that they're still working on getting used to a new director, but still.

 

Grand Prairie, on the other hand, I was very impressed with. I think if they keep on working, they could very easily get 1's at region, and make Area.

Well I was impressed with Martin as I saw today at USBands Saginaw. They actually won in prelims beating bands like Fossil Ridge and Birdville. With what I saw with my own eyes, I think Martin's back this year.

As for Grand Prairie, I like the sound volume for their size, but their music isn't exactly clean yet (Sam Houston was cleaner last week imo). But they still have like 2-3 weeks until UIL where they can fix some of their issues.

[BANDKIDCORE]

does anyone know how many bands go to finals

[BANDKIDCORE]

On 9/15/2024 at 10:12 AM, crunchycookie3 said:

Preposterous that the UIL slammed 5 state finals caliber bands in one area and set it up with a maximum of 4 bands to advance. Struggling to see how the UIL feels that this is equitable compared to other areas across the state. UIL has got to get it together! All it takes is the smallest amount of silly judging and Keller, Bell, or Coppell wouldn't advance. Echoing some sentiment from above, I understand the geographic representation aspect, I really do. I just don't understand why the UIL gives that more weight in state than depth of competition. Maybe the UIL needs to reassess their state advancement policy?

It seems like when UIL drafts the areas, they pay very little attention to history of success, which may be good to help keep it balanced. But keeping this area like this for 2 full years is going to be miserable

does anyone know how many bands go to finals

[Jacob2017]

8 hours ago, BANDNERD53 said:

does anyone know how many bands go to finals

It depends on how many bands make it to area. If there are less than 20, 7 will make finals. If 20, or more, 10 will move on to finals.

[crunchycookie3]

12 hours ago, Jacob2017 said:

It depends on how many bands make it to area. If there are less than 20, 7 will make finals. If 20, or more, 10 will move on to finals.

I’m really hoping we’ll see 10 in finals with 4 state spots. It’s wild that we’re discussing this when there were 40 bands at area and 12 in finals before this realignment! Since there are 23 bands in 6A B, it would take 4 groups not making area to force finals down to 7 and 3 spots to state. So far, it looks like Lamar and Houston may not get 1s, so it will come down to Cedar Hill, Grand Prairie, and Bowie to advance. What a nailbiter!

[BandNerd07]

2 hours ago, crunchycookie3 said:

I’m really hoping we’ll see 10 in finals with 4 state spots. It’s wild that we’re discussing this when there were 40 bands at area and 12 in finals before this realignment! Since there are 23 bands in 6A B, it would take 4 groups not making area to force finals down to 7 and 3 spots to state. So far, it looks like Lamar and Houston may not get 1s, so it will come down to Cedar Hill, Grand Prairie, and Bowie to advance. What a nailbiter!

I hope so too. I personally think Lamar and Grand Prairie will advance given that they both made finals at their respective contests and had a successful first contest. GP actually beat Bowie which didn't make finals, but I haven't got to see them this year yet. As for Houston, I saw a video of their performance at their game vs SGP and they are definitely taking a step up both musically and visually. Most if not all of this area should get 1's so we get 10 finalists and 4 state advancers.

[Baribone07]

On 9/15/2024 at 1:47 AM, Gerys_Goulash said:

This comp is a bloodbath!

Coppell

Bell

Keller

Timber Creek

Keller Central

Haltom

SLC

Lake ridge

Martin

Trinity

Boswell

SGP

 

4 (potentially 3) state spots is brutal for this area. I still have Coppell, Bell, Keller, and Timber going. I see Keller Central also having a good outcome at this competition. It's sad to see so many talented schools not advance

timber is not going tbh, they're placing worse than last year, and as soon as their upperclassmen are gone it's over for them. they had Martin's old director and they were getting 12th at dfw boa in 2022. also last year timbercreek got 3rd at HEB. But this year? 7th.

[TrenBS]

1 hour ago, Baribone07 said:

timber is not going tbh, they're placing worse than last year, and as soon as their upperclassmen are gone it's over for them. they had Martin's old director and they were getting 12th at dfw boa in 2022. also last year timbercreek got 3rd at HEB. But this year? 7th.

I could see that logic applying this year, but to be completely honest, were still really early given how 6A area is in November, so many groups are extending their timelines which are resulting in weaker scores in the early season (Wylie East is an example, placing 16th at Conroe after placing like 5th last year, and they just started closer work), so until BOA Prosper and after, area predictions are gonna be near impossible to be accurate, and with KCent placing 11th at HEB, we could argue that Haltom could make it over TC and KCent if we went based off of HEB🤷‍♂️

[vandi]

1 minute ago, SaltySynth said:

What are yall's predictions for the Area contest and who will be making state?
I've never heard the Forney bands but I would definitely say Waxahachie will be making it a long with runner ups being Berkner, Dunkenville, and Carol(I can't remember if they are in Area B anymore).

They are all not in area B anymore. Area B pretty much consists of like 7 REALLY good bands then a fall off. Not sure who is locked to make it here besides like coppel or LD Bell. Lake Ridge is looking amazing after Mansfield Preview Of Champions despite weird placements. They have an incredible brass book. Keller Central is kind of the same way, placed low at HEB despite them placing high every year. The only band I can confirm that have improved so far is Lake Ridge, not sure about where the others will be the time Area comes but based off years prior I'd assume they'd still be better than bands like Lake Ridge or James Martin.

[vandi]

15 minutes ago, SaltySynth said:

Im like 90% sure LD Bell isn't in this area anymore. Lots of changes happened and its a lot of East Texas bands now. Besides that I I think those are fair assessments.

Oh really? I thought the remainders of what stayed in area B were like Coppel, Keller, Keller Central, Haltom, Lake Ridge, LD Bell, and James martin

[vandi]

Id say Coppel And Keller are the only locks if LD Bell isn't going then. I feel as if the placements of bands at this area is lower than what it has been most years. I think any band in finals could swipe those last two state spots up for themselves with a good performance.

[Tubalord11]

40 minutes ago, SaltySynth said:

Im like 90% sure LD Bell isn't in this area anymore. Lots of changes happened and it’s a lot of East Texas bands now. Besides that I I think those are fair assessments.

Bell is still in this area 

[josephbandfan]

This is the draw order posted on the official Area B site. Same one that is posted on page 2 of this forum

https://www.uilregion24music.com/_files/ugd/2a9078_b15e7b302534413ca1a5ff844c69fd8b.pdf

[Jacob2017]

On 9/30/2024 at 10:01 AM, crunchycookie3 said:

I’m really hoping we’ll see 10 in finals with 4 state spots. It’s wild that we’re discussing this when there were 40 bands at area and 12 in finals before this realignment! Since there are 23 bands in 6A B, it would take 4 groups not making area to force finals down to 7 and 3 spots to state. So far, it looks like Lamar and Houston may not get 1s, so it will come down to Cedar Hill, Grand Prairie, and Bowie to advance. What a nailbiter!

Same, I really think UIL did a disservice to the bands in DFW. I understand they want to try to equalize the representation across the state, but when you have Area's like B, where it's fairly full to the brim with good bands, it becomes unfair to the programs. I don't think the kids from B,C, or J should get the short end of the stick simply to appease kids in other locations. I think what made specifically B and C so exciting the past couple years is the amount of bands that we had up for finals and state slots, and how intense the competition became because of that. These next couple years are going to intense for the opposite reason, simply due to the fact that multiple state caliber programs are going to get cut because they drained Area B.

[CosmicLimbo]

1 hour ago, SaltySynth said:

I guess I had the wrong area for Berkner and Waxahachie. Anyone know where they went? Maybe C?

Yeah they’re both in C now

[Gerys_Goulash]

On 10/1/2024 at 10:17 AM, Baribone07 said:

timber is not going tbh, they're placing worse than last year, and as soon as their upperclassmen are gone it's over for them. they had Martin's old director and they were getting 12th at dfw boa in 2022. also last year timbercreek got 3rd at HEB. But this year? 7th.

Idk. After watching BOA Dallas, I think TC will do amazing this year. They got top half at one of the hardest BOA's all season while beating out Keller, and Bell. But we will see where it goes!

[DFWSpinz]

This is really shaping up to be an interesting area!

This is just the Area B Bands.

Prelims:

1. Coppell 81.6 / 2. Timber Creek 79.3 / 3. Southlake Carroll 79.0 / 4. LD Bell 76.05 / 5. Keller 75.5 / 6. Keller Central 72.65

Finals:

1. Coppell 84.25 / Timber Creek 82.20 / 3. Keller 78.5 / 4. LD Bell 77.8 / 5.  Southlake Carroll 77.05

Interesting note....TC and SLC went on back to back in prelims.  Only .3 separated places 6 and 7.

[BandNerd07]

Something I've decided to do this year is create area rankings that are updated weekly. Rankings are changed each week based on contest results, the likelihood of beating other bands ranked ahead of them, and UIL region results. Here's where the rankings currently stand as of this week:

1. Coppell

2. Timber Creek

3. Keller

4. LD Bell

5. Southlake Carroll

6. Haltom

7. Keller Central

8.  Boswell

9. Mansfield

10. Martin

11. Trinity

12. Lake Ridge

13. South Grand Prairie

14. Arlington

15. Legacy

16. Weatherford

17. Crowley

18. Lamar

19. North Crowley

20. Grand Prairie

21. Bowie

22. Cedar Hill

23. Sam Houston

[Wannabebluecoat]

13 hours ago, BandNerd07 said:

Something I've decided to do this year is create area rankings that are updated weekly. Rankings are changed each week based on contest results, the likelihood of beating other bands ranked ahead of them, and UIL region results. Here's where the rankings currently stand as of this week:

1. Coppell

2. Timber Creek

3. Keller

4. LD Bell

5. Southlake Carroll

6. Haltom

7. Keller Central

8.  Boswell

9. Mansfield

10. Martin

11. Trinity

12. Lake Ridge

13. South Grand Prairie

14. Arlington

15. Legacy

16. Weatherford

17. Crowley

18. Lamar

19. North Crowley

20. Grand Prairie

21. Bowie

22. Cedar Hill

23. Sam Houston

Lake ridge at twelfth is kind of crazy with four bands that have never beat them ahead of them.

[BandNerd07]

20 minutes ago, Wannabebluecoat said:

Lake ridge at twelfth is kind of crazy with four bands that have never beat them ahead of them.

Yeah I know that 4 bands (Boswell, Mansfield, Martin and Trinity) are currently ahead of LR, but let me explain it a bit. Martin had a really good showing at USBands Saginaw, winning it all and beating bands such as Fossil Ridge and Birdville. Mansfield beat Martin at Don Hanna this past week, boosting them up several spots (and also beat LR in music at area last year). Boswell and Trinity had BOA success a few weeks ago medaling at their respective contests. 

Also something to keep in mind is my rankings aren't solely based on a band beating so and so, but the likelihood of beating a band. For example, James Martin beat Birdville and Fossil Ridge at Saginaw, so they would be highly likely to beat some other bands ranked ahead of them. I do realize that this isn't a "perfect system" but I'm working my best at it though.

[Toasted Almond]

On 10/6/2024 at 2:32 PM, Gerys_Goulash said:

Idk. After watching BOA Dallas, I think TC will do amazing this year. They got top half at one of the hardest BOA's all season while beating out Keller, and Bell. But we will see where it goes!

Highest placement for TC at this contest in school history!
Insider info says a lot of changes were made after the judges clinic at HEB, which appear to be clearly reflected in TCs performance and placements just 7 days later at BoA DFW. I agree that this is going to be a great year for them.

[Wannabebluecoat]

3 hours ago, BandNerd07 said:

Yeah I know that 4 bands (Boswell, Mansfield, Martin and Trinity) are currently ahead of LR, but let me explain it a bit. Martin had a really good showing at USBands Saginaw, winning it all and beating bands such as Fossil Ridge and Birdville. Mansfield beat Martin at Don Hanna this past week, boosting them up several spots (and also beat LR in music at area last year). Boswell and Trinity had BOA success a few weeks ago medaling at their respective contests. 

Also something to keep in mind is my rankings aren't solely based on a band beating so and so, but the likelihood of beating a band. For example, James Martin beat Birdville and Fossil Ridge at Saginaw, so they would be highly likely to beat some other bands ranked ahead of them. I do realize that this isn't a "perfect system" but I'm working my best at it though.

Don Hanna memorial is a significantly easier comp than any comp lake ridge has been to so far. Lake ridge always beats Martin and Mansfield and Mansfield is the usual reigning champ at don hanna, so don’t see how that competition could judge pretty much anything. Also last year for lake ridge was debatably the worst show lake ridge has had for a while, if you haven’t watched their most recent videos I would recommend doing so. They scored first in brass at Wylie from a judge and took music award from colleyville and Berkner at poc.