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UIL 5A State Marching Contest 2024 (Nov. 4-5)


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8 minutes ago, 2turle said:

I might be the only one that notice but, Roma opener this year is the Argyle 2021 opener.

this is also something ive noticed for a lot of other bands and so it made me curious. does anyone have information on the rules or lack of rules concerning bands using music books of other bands from previous years? for one example john paul stevens from san antonio used wakeland 2023’s ballad and cedar park’s 2022 closer and watching their show is what got me curious about it. not trying to demonize it i am just curious

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2 minutes ago, rouseglazer1 said:

this is also something ive noticed for a lot of other bands and so it made me curious. does anyone have information on the rules or lack of rules concerning bands using music books of other bands from previous years? for one example john paul stevens from san antonio used wakeland 2023’s ballad and cedar park’s 2022 closer and watching their show is what got me curious about it. not trying to demonize it i am just curious

It's not banned because the band doesn't own the book. The band pays a composer to write their book and acquire copyright things to ve able to play it. Cedar park's show from last is being played in parts. The top 4as each have a part or two from Belle Mechanique. They also could give cedar park a run for their money. I'm joking but it's awesome to see. I would check it out.

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6 minutes ago, Atssbsax1 said:

It's not banned because the band doesn't own the book. The band pays a composer to write their book and acquire copyright things to ve able to play it. Cedar park's show from last is being played in parts. The top 4as each have a part or two from Belle Mechanique. They also could give cedar park a run for their money. I'm joking but it's awesome to see. I would check it out.

I loved that show, do you have any links for the bands performing it now?  I'd love to see it!

Last year I saw a youtube video of a band in Ohio or somewhere performing CP's 2022 show Mirror Mirror in its entirety, and it was so much fun seeing a different take on it, and I was also happy to see it get new life and live on. It was a great show and deserved further viewing and enjoyment.

The composer/arranger retained the rights to those shows, and sells them in whole or in part to other bands.  It's definitely not against the rules and it's a good way for bands to minimize their costs, by buying premade shows rather than having a brand new one designed from scratch.

Evan VanDoren has designed multiple award-winning shows for CP, Rouse, Wakeland, and many other high school marching bands.

https://www.evanvandoren.com/marchingbandshows/#Portfolio|all|1

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2 hours ago, rouseglazer1 said:

this is also something ive noticed for a lot of other bands and so it made me curious. does anyone have information on the rules or lack of rules concerning bands using music books of other bands from previous years? for one example john paul stevens from san antonio used wakeland 2023’s ballad and cedar park’s 2022 closer and watching their show is what got me curious about it. not trying to demonize it i am just curious

Bands often contract original shows to be written by marching band composers/arrangers, but after that, typically a composer will either add it to their repository of show music that is able to be purchased or can be reused/edited in a different year if they have it in their backlog of charts they have already written. All depending on the band, rights, etc.

I have heard an opener from when I was in school be played by one band or another every few years since that.

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15 minutes ago, utee94 said:

I loved that show, do you have any links for the bands performing it now?  I'd love to see it!

Last year I saw a youtube video of a band in Ohio or somewhere performing CP's 2022 show Mirror Mirror in its entirety, and it was so much fun seeing a different take on it, and I was also happy to see it get new life and live on. It was a great show and deserved further viewing and enjoyment.

The composer/arranger retained the rights to those shows, and sells them in whole or in part to other bands.  It's definitely not against the rules and it's a good way for bands to minimize their costs, by buying premade shows rather than having a brand new one designed from scratch.

Evan VanDoren has designed multiple award-winning shows for CP, Rouse, Wakeland, and many other high school marching bands.

https://www.evanvandoren.com/marchingbandshows/#Portfolio|all|1

I'm too lazy to copy and paste the links but panther creek plays a few parts and farmersville has the same opener. Farmersville also has wakelands ballad from last year. I highly recommend watching those two shows they're both really fun and great shows to watch. Both can be found on YouTube if the name of the band is searched. Although they are pretty old runs and those bands have gotten significantly better over the past few weeks

 

Panther Creek marching and Farmersville Marching Band

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1 hour ago, utee94 said:

I loved that show, do you have any links for the bands performing it now?  I'd love to see it!

Last year I saw a youtube video of a band in Ohio or somewhere performing CP's 2022 show Mirror Mirror in its entirety, and it was so much fun seeing a different take on it, and I was also happy to see it get new life and live on. It was a great show and deserved further viewing and enjoyment.

The composer/arranger retained the rights to those shows, and sells them in whole or in part to other bands.  It's definitely not against the rules and it's a good way for bands to minimize their costs, by buying premade shows rather than having a brand new one designed from scratch.

Evan VanDoren has designed multiple award-winning shows for CP, Rouse, Wakeland, and many other high school marching bands.

https://www.evanvandoren.com/marchingbandshows/#Portfolio|all|1

wait bc i need to see that. mirror mirror is 100% my favorite cedar park show thus far and i would love to see another iteration of it

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8 hours ago, rouseglazer1 said:

wait bc i need to see that. mirror mirror is 100% my favorite cedar park show thus far and i would love to see another iteration of it

PM sent, don't want to clutter up this thread with too much chatter of old shows. :)

 

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I have high hopes about the bands this year, and I'm super excited to see richland made it, they are not very well known or popular, but their show last year was amazing, and I think they have a chance of making finals at state if they put in a ton of work. I also hope aledo makes it this year, they had a rough run last year, but they have improved greatly. Burleson is great as usual, and will most likely advance.

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3 hours ago, CDLune VA said:

I won’t be surprised if Cedar Park wins again, but I think it would be cool to see Rouse take 1st place, especially considering that they are more than capable of it. If I’m being completely honest, last year’s state results were quite the upset. Rouse had been one step ahead that entire season, and It looked like they had the state title right at their fingertips. 2023 is probably one of their strongest, if not their strongest year ever for marching band.

I haven’t yet seen their show for this year, but I bet it’s fantastic.

 

(Side note: To clarify, I’m not glazing my own band here. I didn’t go to Rouse, or any Leander school for that matter. I’m just a huge marching band nerd.)

I agree with you on this for the most part. I don't know if you've seen Rouse's show this year, but it is really good. While I really do want Rouse to take 1st just because they've worked so incredibly hard all of last year (they came so close) and this year. CP has won State for years now, I think it would be cool to see a new champion. However I think CP will take the win again this year. They've had 7 state champion titles in a row. They're not letting that go. Excited to see how it goes though for sure!

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20 minutes ago, Baritone Legend said:

I agree with you on this for the most part. I don't know if you've seen Rouse's show this year, but it is really good. While I really do want Rouse to take 1st just because they've worked so incredibly hard all of last year (they came so close) and this year. CP has won State for years now, I think it would be cool to see a new champion. However I think CP will take the win again this year. They've had 7 state champion titles in a row. They're not letting that go. Excited to see how it goes though for sure!

5 in a row, plus 2011 and 2001. But who's counting... lol

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11 hours ago, flamy1234 said:

my predictions

1) Cp

2)rouse

3)wakeland

3)lonestar

5)leander

6) aledo

7)hendrickson 

8)cen10

9)roma

10)friendswood

11)argyle

12)CH

i really like this list, I would LOVE to see argyle in state finals for their first 5A appearance, if you haven’t seen it, their show is really cool.

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10 hours ago, Atssbsax1 said:

 

😭 I bet argyle does not want to lose their record. They currently have the most champions out of any texas band. They're coming for that 5a title very very soon. It only took them 2 years to make state at the 5a level which is ridiculous. Personally, the best tecas band just because of the quality and how competitive they have at any class they have been in. They adapt so fast.

While I do completely agree that Argyle Is a very good band, and they do adapt quickly. I do think that the top two spots are pretty locked in for this year, and probably even more years to come. While there may be some threats such as Wakeland, or Arglye, Rouse and CP are on a different level. They have the 6A competitiveness, but both are 5A. They both also compete with the top schools even the 6A schools. Not saying Arglye does not, but I think Rouse and CP will keep their game up.

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