Dave609 Posted March 26, 2024 Posted March 26, 2024 Well with the release of the 2024/2026 alignments, this area is about to see a really big change! With the addition of Region 3 and Region 25, we could see 6 to 10 bands advance to the state marching contest from this area as long as all bands are under Varsity. Plus this area has military bands so those spots will still count! This will truly be an area you will want to be watching for. Also, the regions could change at any time until it is finalized. 4A Area C (Region 3, 4, 9, 10, 19, 21, 25, 33)- Region 3 (7)- Caddo Mills HS Canton HS Kemp HS Mabank HS Quinlan Ford HS Sunnyvale HS Wills Point HS Region 4 (8)- Gilmer HS Kilgore HS North Lamar HS Paris HS Pine Tree HS Pleasant Grove HS Spring Hill HS Sulphur Springs HS Region 9 (2)- Shepherd HS Tarkington HS Region 10 (13)- Bridge City HS Hamshire-Fannett HS Hardin-Jefferson HS Hargrave HS Hudson HS Jasper HS Liberty HS Little Cypress-Mauriceville HS Livingston HS Lumberton HS Silsbee HS Vidor HS West Orange Stark HS Region 19 (0 Bands) Region 21 (12)- Athens HS Brownsboro HS Bullard HS Carthage HS Center HS Chapel Hill HS Cumberland Academy HS Henderson HS Lindale HS Palestine HS Rusk HS Van HS Region 25 (5)- Bonham HS Celina HS Community HS Farmersville HS Van Alstyne HS Region 33 (3 (Doesn't show they have bands))- Galena Park CTE Early College HS Houston Harmony School Advancement Quest Early College HS Quote
J-Mike16 Posted March 26, 2024 Posted March 26, 2024 This change has now caused Area C to be even more competitive. Region 3 (7)- Caddo Mills HS Canton HS Kemp HS Mabank HS Quinlan Ford HS Sunnyvale HS Wills Point HS Region 4 (8)- Gilmer HS Kilgore HS North Lamar HS Paris HS Pine Tree HS Pleasant Grove HS Spring Hill HS Sulphur Springs HS Region 9 (2)- Shepherd HS Tarkington HS Region 10 (13)- Bridge City HS Hamshire-Fannett HS Hardin-Jefferson HS Hargrave HS Hudson HS Jasper HS Liberty HS Little Cypress-Mauriceville HS Livingston HS Lumberton HS Silsbee HS Vidor HS West Orange Stark HS Region 19 (0 Bands) Region 21 (12)- Athens HS Brownsboro HS Bullard HS Carthage HS Center HS Chapel Hill HS Cumberland Academy HS Henderson HS Lindale HS Palestine HS Rusk HS Van HS Region 25 (5)- Bonham HS Celina HS Community HS Farmersville HS Van Alstyne HS Region 33 (3 (Doesn't show they have bands))- Galena Park CTE Early College HS Houston Harmony School Advancement Quest Early College HS ---- Bands in bold are the current State ranked bands from 2023. Bands in italics are the ones I think will fill up the rest of the Area Finals spots and also could replace any of the bolded bands. Quote
Tubalord11 Posted March 26, 2024 Posted March 26, 2024 I’m super excited to see how this area turns out!! With the additions of bands like Pine Tree and Celina, it’s going to be a MASSIVE battle for finals and state. Throwing in my way to early predictions: 1st: Celina 2nd: Pine Tree (have a really good feeling about them) 3rd: Sulphur Springs 4th: North Lamar 5th: Canton (could be higher) 6th: Lumbertown 7th: Paris I’m only gonna to my top 7, if they end up sending ten there are a good amount of programs that could take the other 3 spots. Will be a fun one to watch!! Quote
criscubes Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 On 3/26/2024 at 9:56 PM, Tubalord11 said: I’m super excited to see how this area turns out!! With the additions of bands like Pine Tree and Celina, it’s going to be a MASSIVE battle for finals and state. Throwing in my way to early predictions: 1st: Celina 2nd: Pine Tree (have a really good feeling about them) 3rd: Sulphur Springs 4th: North Lamar 5th: Canton (could be higher) 6th: Lumbertown 7th: Paris I’m only gonna to my top 7, if they end up sending ten there are a good amount of programs that could take the other 3 spots. Will be a fun one to watch!! Expand Based on last year, I think the 7th place spot belongs to Kaufman or Farmersville. They were both above Paris and tied eachother at the area finals for Area B. While Paris always performs great shows, Kaufman has consistently been a highranking and competitive school. I don't see a school such as them not placing in the 7th spot or above for this area. I'm not so sure about lumbertown since I've never seen them in person or recording but I think they will definitely have a very tight sliver to try to slide into. Needless to say, This year will be the most competitive I've ever seen; probably more than back in the Argyle and Melissa years for Area B. BulldogMN 1 Quote
BandNerd07 Posted April 26, 2024 Posted April 26, 2024 On 4/26/2024 at 6:37 PM, criscubes said: Based on last year, I think the 7th place spot belongs to Kaufman or Farmersville. They were both above Paris and tied eachother at the area finals for Area B. While Paris always performs great shows, Kaufman has consistently been a highranking and competitive school. I don't see a school such as them not placing in the 7th spot or above for this area. I'm not so sure about lumbertown since I've never seen them in person or recording but I think they will definitely have a very tight sliver to try to slide into. Needless to say, This year will be the most competitive I've ever seen; probably more than back in the Argyle and Melissa years for Area B. Expand Kaufman is 5A now so they won't be competing here. Quote
criscubes Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 On 4/26/2024 at 9:02 PM, BandNerd07 said: Kaufman is 5A now so they won't be competing here. Expand I was unaware thanks for letting me know. I guess that 7th spot id up for grabs then but Farmersville might take it since they did tied with Kaufman 2023 and didn't get to far off in 2022. Can't wait to see Paris, Lumbertown, and Farmersville compete for their spot at 7th and 6th place spots. Quote
PXwhyBand Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 Here is what I think is likely to happen for top 10 (bolded is state qualifiers): 1. Celina 2. Sulphur Springs 3. North Lamar 4. Canton 5. Pine Tree 6. Farmersville 7. Sunnyvale 8. Paris 9. Lumberton 10. Bridge City Celina is obviously the best band here with only the knowledge of some of these bands shows this next year and how things went in the past. I'd say Sulphur Springs and North Lamar are both stellar in their own right and are honestly tied when it comes down to it. Canton is falling off a little so I am a little hesitant about them but they always put on a good show so here's hoping. Pine Tree and Farmersville are also good bands but instead of an amazing band like Paris making the top 7, I think it'll be Sunnyvale. They came out of nowhere at area last year and I like their show themes. I think they will be the upset this year and knock down some of the Area C powerhouses like Paris and Lumberton. Overall this is going to be a crazy season and we are all in for some amazing shows no matter what happens. Quote
J-Mike16 Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 On 5/23/2024 at 2:59 AM, PXwhyBand said: Here is what I think is likely to happen for top 10 (bolded is state qualifiers): 1. Celina 2. Sulphur Springs 3. North Lamar 4. Canton 5. Pine Tree 6. Farmersville 7. Sunnyvale 8. Paris 9. Lumberton 10. Bridge City Celina is obviously the best band here with only the knowledge of some of these bands shows this next year and how things went in the past. I'd say Sulphur Springs and North Lamar are both stellar in their own right and are honestly tied when it comes down to it. Canton is falling off a little so I am a little hesitant about them but they always put on a good show so here's hoping. Pine Tree and Farmersville are also good bands but instead of an amazing band like Paris making the top 7, I think it'll be Sunnyvale. They came out of nowhere at area last year and I like their show themes. I think they will be the upset this year and knock down some of the Area C powerhouses like Paris and Lumberton. Overall this is going to be a crazy season and we are all in for some amazing shows no matter what happens. Expand Interesting predictions. While I do think Sunnyvale could make Finals, I don't think they will make state, but could in the future. I think Farmersville is a dark horse to advance. I still think Paris and Lumberton advances. I also predict that 8 bands will advance out of 12 Finalists. Quote
marchingtillpigsfly Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 On 4/27/2024 at 11:48 AM, criscubes said: I was unaware thanks for letting me know. I guess that 7th spot id up for grabs then but Farmersville might take it since they did tied with Kaufman 2023 and didn't get to far off in 2022. Can't wait to see Paris, Lumbertown, and Farmersville compete for their spot at 7th and 6th place spots. Expand Yes Kaufman is 5A now but if they remain 4A they would place higher they have beaten most of these bands I can see them go head to head with Sulpher Springs due to how close they always come to beating them. Quote
ATSSBoT Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 On 8/27/2024 at 4:21 PM, marchingtillpigsfly said: Yes Kaufman is 5A now but if they remain 4A they would place higher they have beaten most of these bands I can see them go head to head with Sulpher Springs due to how close they always come to beating them. Expand Kaufman is off to a GREAT start this year.. wouldn't be surprised if they make state in 5A area c.. I would almost reckon the kids are excited about moving up considering how competitive area C 4a is! Quote
bandnerd310 Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Is there any halftime performance vids from the bands in this area? Quote
ATSSBoT Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 On 9/3/2024 at 12:41 AM, bandnerd310 said: Is there any halftime performance vids from the bands in this area? Expand I’ve seen the following from just snooping around and these are my thoughts: Pine Tree: They decided to do a way harder show this year.. their woodwinds are really solid but not so much brass. Pretty messy visually even for September but their music selections are awesome Sulphur Springs: Great music selections; but oh my god please stop parking and barking.. There might be less than 30 seconds where they’re marching and playing at the same time They sound really good for this early in the season but the drill has lots of holes North Lamar: They started about the same as they always do, maybe a bit stronger this year Not entirely sure about the music selection as I’ve only seen the first act. They sound solid and i’m sure they’ll do how they always do Quote
marchingtillpigsfly Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 On 9/2/2024 at 6:07 PM, ATSSBoT said: Kaufman is off to a GREAT start this year.. wouldn't be surprised if they make state in 5A area c.. I would almost reckon the kids are excited about moving up considering how competitive area C 4a is! Expand Kaufman is off to a great start! I think regardless if the went up or not, they would have packed a punch in both Areas! Quote
Dave609 Posted September 6, 2024 Author Posted September 6, 2024 On 9/6/2024 at 4:19 PM, marchingtillpigsfly said: Kaufman is off to a great start! I think regardless if the went up or not, they would have packed a punch in both Areas! Expand Kaufman did go up to 5A. Glad to hear they are doing well! Quote
marchingtillpigsfly Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 On 9/6/2024 at 4:21 PM, Dave609 said: Kaufman did go up to 5A. Glad to hear they are doing well! Expand Yes I know they did, but I meant they would pack a punch in both areas! I saw their show on their YouTube and it looks great! Quote
Dave609 Posted September 6, 2024 Author Posted September 6, 2024 On 9/6/2024 at 4:23 PM, marchingtillpigsfly said: Yes I know they did, but I meant they would pack a punch in both areas! I saw their show on their YouTube and it looks great! Expand Ah I got you. I'm excited to see how they do and hope they can make a return to State! They were one of my favorites to go up against back in 2016 Quote
Popular Post J-Mike16 Posted September 8, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 8, 2024 So, I'm saying this now... Top 8 in order Celina North Lamar Sulphur Springs Lumberton Pine Tree Canton Paris Farmersville Tubalord11, KimR0328, Bray and 2 others 5 Quote
criscubes Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 On 9/8/2024 at 5:01 PM, J-Mike16 said: So, I'm saying this now... Top 8 in order Celina North Lamar Sulphur Springs Lumberton Pine Tree Canton Paris Farmersville Expand Interesting predictions, are there reasons that you have placed these bands where you did? I'm curious as to your reason behind these placements. It's really early in the season so predictions are hard at this point in time since shows are just now being seen by the public and major changes are still being made. My predictions 1st - 8th: Celina: Pretty obvious they are the best band in this area since they won back to back state champions for 4a. Sulphur Springs: Always a phenomenal band and always brings competition at the state level year after year. North Lamar: Same as sulphur springs. They are an amazing band and could be interchanged with sulphur springs for 2nd both at area and the state level. Pine Tree: I've never seen this band perform in person or even video. From what I know, they were a state 5a band so I think they will do great and even take over at the 4a level and establish themselves as a top band. I'd place them top 3, but that's the only knowledge I have. Lumberton: I've never seen this band perform either, but I hear great things and I do think they will compete for the finals spots at area C. Canton: They have tapered off in recent years, otherwise I'd place them second. My confidence in this band being a top competitor in this area and even at state isn't too great. Considering they didn't make state finals last year, I don't think they will be beating Sulphur Springs or North Lamar at the area level. Farmersville: Great band and has come close to advancing to state even tying with kaufman last year. They beat paris highschool and sulphur springs at the royse city invitational by a pretty big margin. Great band that can be competitive, but lacks consistency for staying at that competitive level. Paris: Great band year after year and always a pleasure to watch. I really enjoyed their show last year and think it will be great this year aswell. While they are great, I don't see them placing higher than 7th in this area just because the competition is so great. All of these bands are phenomenal and all have great things going for them. Hopefully all these bands see growth and bring their full efforts to the area competition as always. I think this is the most competitive and tight a single area has been at the 4a level, bands will have to bring quite a lot to stand out and cement their spots this year for sure. Bray 1 Quote
J-Mike16 Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 On 9/8/2024 at 6:55 PM, criscubes said: Interesting predictions, are there reasons that you have placed these bands where you did? I'm curious as to your reason behind these placements. It's really early in the season so predictions are hard at this point in time since shows are just now being seen by the public and major changes are still being made. Expand Celina being in 1st should not be surprising North Lamar & Sulphur Springs being in 2nd & 3rd is because I believe they will peak too early at Area and not at State Lumberton being in 4th because this year the show is already being executed at a high level so early on in the season, I think they will peak at State and then place really well in Finals. I'm a little unsure where to place Pine Tree tbh. I think they will place in the 2nd - 6th range but I'm sticking them in 5th. Canton in 6th is just because of the recent placements at Area and State for them. Paris in 7th just because of the competitiveness in the top 6. and then one of my dark horses in Area C is Farmersville. I think they will get that extra burst of energy to get over the hump that they seem to have at Area. However, I do see it being very close to them and Bridge City who I have being State Alternate. Dave609 and Bray 2 Quote
Saxtastic45 Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 New to this forum: I am curious (no judgement) how everyone comes up with their predictions. Do you scout videos on YouTube or go to games? Quote
Dave609 Posted September 9, 2024 Author Posted September 9, 2024 On 9/9/2024 at 10:26 PM, Saxtastic45 said: New to this forum: I am curious (no judgement) how everyone comes up with their predictions. Do you scout videos on YouTube or go to games? Expand It's mostly a mix of everything you mentioned plus what we feel could happen based on previous year placements. But the predictions people have up now are more of pre-competiton predictions since everyone will change where they could see a band place once more competitions have been held. But everyone will always be cheering for every band at the end of the day. Quote
criscubes Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 On 9/9/2024 at 10:26 PM, Saxtastic45 said: New to this forum: I am curious (no judgement) how everyone comes up with their predictions. Do you scout videos on YouTube or go to games? Expand I usually go from what I know a band has accomplished. For Celina, they've won back to back state championships so it's fair and safe to assume they will be first again. Since most bands remain with majority of the same staff and students, they usually perform the same year after year so it's safe to place them around the same as previous years. Canton for example used to be a consistent silver medalists and bronze at the state champioship, but from what I know they got a new director and staff shifted and since then, they have dropped in rankings not even making state finals last year. You'll get used to it as you learn the bands and see how certain classifications seem to fair throughout the season. Nonetheless, we support every banf and they all always put great effort into every show no matter what band it is. J-Mike16 and Dave609 2 Quote
Saxtastic45 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 On 9/10/2024 at 12:27 AM, criscubes said: I usually go from what I know a band has accomplished. For Celina, they've won back to back state championships so it's fair and safe to assume they will be first again. Since most bands remain with majority of the same staff and students, they usually perform the same year after year so it's safe to place them around the same as previous years. Canton for example used to be a consistent silver medalists and bronze at the state champioship, but from what I know they got a new director and staff shifted and since then, they have dropped in rankings not even making state finals last year. You'll get used to it as you learn the bands and see how certain classifications seem to fair throughout the season. Nonetheless, we support every banf and they all always put great effort into every show no matter what band it is. Expand I don't think Canton has a new director. From what I’ve heard they may be pretty dangerous this year. With such a pedigree it would be hard to see their students not out to prove the naysayers wrong. Kinda like North Lamar last year. Sulphur might win it all this year at area. I think they have a good concept and a winning mentality. That doesn’t mean that Celina won’t come back and win state. Remember what happened in Area B in 2022 with Canton and Anna. I haven’t seen Lumberton, Bridge City, Paris, North Lamar, or Pine Tree. So I don’t have any real opinions. I do know that this is the Area to watch! bandnerd310 1 Quote
gammie634 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 On 9/10/2024 at 12:27 AM, criscubes said: I usually go from what I know a band has accomplished. For Celina, they've won back to back state championships so it's fair and safe to assume they will be first again. Since most bands remain with majority of the same staff and students, they usually perform the same year after year so it's safe to place them around the same as previous years. Canton for example used to be a consistent silver medalists and bronze at the state champioship, but from what I know they got a new director and staff shifted and since then, they have dropped in rankings not even making state finals last year. You'll get used to it as you learn the bands and see how certain classifications seem to fair throughout the season. Nonetheless, we support every banf and they all always put great effort into every show no matter what band it is. Expand Bro did not cook Quote
J-Mike16 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 I would watch out for Lumberton for possibly top 3 or even higher. They seriously look and sound like a 5A/6A band. Quote
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