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8 hours ago, thejitfromband said:

Less than a week left...Unfortunately, some awesome bands are not going to make the cut there's not enough spots for everyone. I just hope the judging sends the best bands to state. The judging was been a little wonky not too bad but still. I'm afraid a band may miss the cut because of incompetent judges. I'm unsure of my predictions now because of that as well. Anyhow good luck to everyone. If there would be a time to lock in it definitely would be right now. This week will determine who makes and who does not.

Im afraid the bands like Pine Tree and Celina aren’t gonna get scored well just cause they go early in the day and the judges haven’t seen all the good bands yet not to mention we start very early in the day.

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11 minutes ago, viejo said:

Im afraid the bands like Pine Tree and Celina aren’t gonna get scored well just cause they go early in the day and the judges haven’t seen all the good bands yet not to mention we start very early in the day.

A little birdie told me the schedule might be changing slightly due to threat of rain and bands needing to travel super long distances. 
 

I don’t think there’s a chance in heck Celina doesn’t make finals even with an early spot. 

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2 minutes ago, GarbagePatchKid said:

A little birdie told me the schedule might be changing slightly due to threat of rain and bands needing to travel super long distances. 
 

I don’t think there’s a chance in heck Celina doesn’t make finals even with an early spot. 

Oh trust me I fully believe Celina will make finals but maybe their placement at least 

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My predictions for the bands going to state after listening to the bands in person (trust me a bunch of money and gas lol) 

 

  1. Sulphur Springs 
  2. Celina 
  3. North Lamar 
  4. Farmersville 
  5. Paris 
  6. Pine Tree
  7. Lumberton 

 

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24 minutes ago, GarbagePatchKid said:

A little birdie told me the schedule might be changing slightly due to threat of rain and bands needing to travel super long distances. 
 

I don’t think there’s a chance in heck Celina doesn’t make finals even with an early spot. 

I hope it does. Several Bands from Region 10 for example, have around a 4 hour drive without stops. So most are reporting to school at 6-7 that morning. There are bands with a 1 hour or 1.5 hour drive performing after them at the end of the day. A more central location (with more parking) for future Area C contests would be a big improvement.

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13 minutes ago, SETXgal said:

I hope it does. Several Bands from Region 10 for example, have around a 4 hour drive without stops. So most are reporting to school at 6-7 that morning. There are bands with a 1 hour or 1.5 hour drive performing after them at the end of the day. A more central location (with more parking) for future Area C contests would be a big improvement.

Yep! I know a school attending this contest with a 4:30 am call time 

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1 minute ago, GarbagePatchKid said:

Yep! I know a school attending this contest with a 4:30 am call time 

Which band is it? No matter who even after a football game the day before and having to be on a bus for that long could be tiring 

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Updated predictions based on draw order and latest info and rumors (just for fun don’t get upset I’m not trying to insult anyone or make all of you hard working people feel under valued)

Celina: will win overall but come in 2nd after prelims because of draw order but I don’t think they lose after a finals run and they are the best.

Sulphur Springs will win prelims. Great draw and a great show played and marched as good or better than anyone. They have experience under pressure. 
 

Farmersville will come in maybe 6 or 7 for prelims but will jump to 3rd during finals. This is just a gut feeling. Good show, I don’t think it has legs to beat out the 1st 2 but I think they are a lock for state. Band sound is good, but I don’t think the difficulty is as much as some claim. Except for the sax soloist.

North Lamar is probably getting a high rank in prelims but could drop to 4 or 5 in finals unless they put all the pieces together. If that happens who knows. 
 

Van Alstyne is my dark horse. This is a very good show played very well. Maybe not as hard as some other shows but they sound and look great. I have them between 5 and 7 in both prelims and finals

Canton I think has the hardest show. I don’t think it is as clean as they would like but if it’s close I think they will be, it’s going to be high up in prelims maybe 3-5 and drop to 5-7 in finals. 
 

I’m going out on a limb and saying Pleasant Grove gets the 7th and final state spot. I think they will get somewhere between 7 and 10 in prelims and rally for a great finals run. I really love there show and that brass sound carries them across the finish line. 
 

In the edge- Paris, Lumberton, Bridge City. All of them have been there and have great competitive bands

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Forecast may be tricky for this one, looks like Thurs/Fri could be rainy days and some rain could linger into Saturday. It the storm system is delayed a bit it could make for a difficult time Saturday with the contest getting delayed until Sunday. 

Parking is very limited in Lindale and with this many bands. I want to be positive but there is not enough room for this many big bands. 

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3 hours ago, viejo said:

My predictions for the bands going to state after listening to the bands in person (trust me a bunch of money and gas lol) 

 

 

  1. Sulphur Springs 
  2. Celina 
  3. North Lamar 
  4. Farmersville 
  5. Paris 
  6. Pine Tree
  7. Lumberton 

 

Farmersville had finished in front of north Lamar in competitions. What about the dark horse Van Alstyne? 

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11 minutes ago, HLD said:

Farmersville had finished in front of north Lamar in competitions. What about the dark horse Van Alstyne? 

Van Alstyne is right on the edge for me. North Lamar always gets better towards the end of the year especially at Area. Van Alstyne, Lumberton, and Pine Tree are all bands that could be on the 6,7,8 places

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9 minutes ago, HLD said:

Farmersville had finished in front of north Lamar in competitions. What about the dark horse Van Alstyne? 

I have seen the VA band at Princeton and also at Celina. They have a pretty good percussion and typically do well in Prelims but then bands overtake them in Finals. I think they might have a chance at that 7th spot but this area is a bloodbath.

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2 hours ago, SETXgal said:

That's just ridiculous. Many schools will leave the football games early, but even with that...

That's the problem with this area. It's basically all the eastern part of Texas from the Oklahoma Border to the Texas Coast. Several schools near the coast are gonna have to have those early call times. I remember a couple of years ago a band competing at BOA Prosper had to have a 3:30 call time because they performed at 8:15 in the morning.

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16 minutes ago, HLD said:

Farmersville had finished in front of north Lamar in competitions. What about the dark horse Van Alstyne? 

Farmersville would be my pick over North Lamar as well. (Mostly bc I love their sax soloist and if you couldn’t guess by my handle, I’m a sucker for a good sax player)

I would be hesitant to say that it’s a lock that they beat NL. I originally thought Farmersville beat NL at Royce City. Apparently that’s not true. NL was right there with Farmersville with an incomplete show. 
 

the other reason I think it’s iffy that NL beats them is because I feel they are a bit inconsistent. But they sound better and there visual is better than Farmersville in my opinion. It’s going to come down to if they can get to the end of the show clean.

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2 minutes ago, TexasStrangers said:

That's the problem with this area. It's basically all the eastern part of Texas from the Oklahoma Border to the Texas Coast. Several schools near the coast are gonna have to have those early call times. I remember a couple of years ago a band competing at BOA Prosper had to have a 3:30 call time because they performed at 8:15 in the morning.

And roping region 25 into this area is crazy. 

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Honestly I don't even know anymore. I was pretty confident about my predictions but not anymore. I completely forgot canton and sulphur beat celina at princeton. Then lamar beats farmersville at royce city but they come right back and beat them twice at celina the same day. Farmersville also got 1 or 2 judges to put them ahead of sulphur in music. The farmersville beats Alvarado who beat canton which would mean they're better than celina. I don't like how inconsistent the judging is. We'll see if the judges are able to do their job correctly.

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46 minutes ago, HLD said:

Farmersville had finished in front of north Lamar in competitions. What about the dark horse Van Alstyne? 

Farmersville has finished ahead of Van Alstyne a few times this year.  Van Alstyne finished ahead of North Lamar in the prelims at Celina and North Lamar finished ahead of Van Alstyne in the finals. 

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3 minutes ago, Atssbsax1 said:

Honestly I don't even know anymore. I was pretty confident about my predictions but not anymore. I completely forgot canton and sulphur beat celina at princeton. Then lamar beats farmersville at royce city but they come right back and beat them twice at celina the same day. Farmersville also got 1 or 2 judges to put them ahead of sulphur in music. The farmersville beats Alvarado who beat canton which would mean they're better than celina. I don't like how inconsistent the judging is. We'll see if the judges are able to do their job correctly.

Before you say it is inconsistent you actually need to look at the judges scoring sheets. It's quite possible that all these schools are really really close in scoring to each other and just one simple thing could propel a school to the front or the back. I don't think you are seeing huge gaps between several states advancing schools like you have in the past. Also, don't forget no run for a band is the same as it was before. Time and Temperature can decide how a run goes. Are you playing early in the morning or are you playing in the direct heat facing the sun. 

 

Now if you get the judges scoring sheets and you see that Music Judges gave a 1,8,2 and a the Visual judges went 1, 9 then you could make an argument for that which is why the UIL has a provision in the rules in case a judge decides to go rogue in scoring.

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