Atssbsax1 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, TexasStrangers said: Before you say it is inconsistent you actually need to look at the judges scoring sheets. It's quite possible that all these schools are really really close in scoring to each other and just one simple thing could propel a school to the front or the back. I don't think you are seeing huge gaps between several states advancing schools like you have in the past. Also, don't forget no run for a band is the same as it was before. Time and Temperature can decide how a run goes. Are you playing early in the morning or are you playing in the direct heat facing the sun. Now if you get the judges scoring sheets and you see that Music Judges gave a 1,8,2 and a the Visual judges went 1, 9 then you could make an argument for that which is why the UIL has a provision in the rules in case a judge decides to go rogue in scoring. Oh no I've seen judging like that this year. I know a cooler time in the day will greatly benefit a band. I marched as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxtastic45 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 31 minutes ago, Atssbsax1 said: Oh no I've seen judging like that this year. I know a cooler time in the day will greatly benefit a band. I marched as well... Are you the Farmersville sax soloist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waker_84 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Based on what I’ve seen, I think most would agree that Canton, Sulphur, Celina, Farmersville, and North Lamar are likely to secure the top five spots. The competition for 6th and 7th places will probably be among bands like Lumberton, Pine Tree, Community, Van Alstyne, Wills Point, Sunnyvale, Bridge City, and Paris. The strongest contenders for those spots seem to be Lumberton, Pine Tree, Van Alstyne, and Paris, although personally, I’m not convinced about Pine Tree and Van Alstyne, but that might just be my perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammie634 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 8 minutes ago, Saxtastic45 said: Are you the Farmersville sax soloist? He's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkownuser2298 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 5 hours ago, bandnerd12342321 said: https://youtu.be/Kz-wjK2dBsA?si=OV2bNrBYDNBIL_B3 That is last year's show for Will's point, not this year's. I cannot find one from this year, but I have seen their show, and I think they got a shot at finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fanboy Posted October 27 Popular Post Share Posted October 27 I think we can all agree that the finals will be stacked with phenomenal bands. And 5 very good bands will not advance to state. Saxtastic45, SETXgal and BandDad85 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
criscubes Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 since it's a week off, I think shows are pretty set on general placements, so here are my predictions. 1. Sulphur Springs - They beat out Celina at princeton, and their show is better suited to place better based on the updated score cards as compared to Celina. I also think overall, SS has shown more consistent and largers growth from week to week as compared to Celina. 2. Farmersville - They may not be as clean as Celina, but I believe their show is more technical than Celina's which may give them the edge. They also beat alvarado twice in the same competition if I remember correctly which beat Celina and Canton. North Lamar seemed to be close to Farmersville at royse city, but I really just think Farmersville had a bad run since later that day at Celina, they beat out North Lamar in Prelims and Finals and was pretty close to winning the competition. 3. Celina - Very clean show and performed fantastically. I just think SS and Farmersville have more technical shows which will place better with the judges presuming the judges actually judge properly without biased to any band. I know they are a great band and won 2 championships back to back, but I really don't think that type of show will keep winning as we see 4a is starting to transition into more complex and intricate shows like 5a and 6a. 4. I think Canton will take forth just because they did compete very strongly in area b for many years and they did make state very consistently. I have seen them taper off and they got beat out by every other band I placed ahead of them even if it wasn't directly. 5. I think North Lamar will strongly compete with Canton for the 4th and 5th spot since they are both extremely great bands, unless I see a tremendous growth though; I don't feel comfortable placing them top 3 since those bands are just powerhouses this year, and we've seen those bands consistently above the rest this season. 6. Lumberton - I really don't have a definite band to take the last 2 state spots since the remaining bands are just so close. I will give it to lumberton though since while some other bands may be a bit cleaner, I think after this point in placements size will start meaning a little more to the judges. 7. Van Alstyne or Paris - I really can't give it to either band. Both bands are great and both deserve the spot, but they are just really close from what I've seen. Of course community is still in play along with Pine Tree, but I don't think they are as clean as the other two in many aspects of their show. BandDad85 and whatsbandman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atssbsax1 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 1 hour ago, Saxtastic45 said: Are you the Farmersville sax soloist? No I was an actual saxophone. The farmersville soloist is a clarinet player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxtastic45 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 3 minutes ago, Atssbsax1 said: No I was an actual saxophone. The farmersville soloist is a clarinet player... Oh wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Ok. Now let’s do predictions based on the high probability that it will be in the indoor facility. Who gets the edge with that little change? btw. All of your predictions are ridiculous. This area is too large. For any of these bands to see each other before area would mean drive 5 to 7 hours to the other bands contests. No way to compare so no way to accurately predict. Just enjoy the shows (that is if we even get to get inside to watch in the indoor facility with a sideline that is no bigger than 5 feet. I guess the end zone is an option. 🤔) SETXgal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SETXgal Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 35 minutes ago, Fanboy said: Ok. Now let’s do predictions based on the high probability that it will be in the indoor facility. Who gets the edge with that little change? btw. All of your predictions are ridiculous. This area is too large. For any of these bands to see each other before area would mean drive 5 to 7 hours to the other bands contests. No way to compare so no way to accurately predict. Just enjoy the shows (that is if we even get to get inside to watch in the indoor facility with a sideline that is no bigger than 5 feet. I guess the end zone is an option. 🤔) I'd rather have the alternate weather day like most other areas do instead of performing in the indoor bubble. Lindale loses out on money from concessions & things too. Can the judges even get up high in the indoor facility to see formations? joeswansonlover69 and Saxtastic45 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SETXgal Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 1 hour ago, criscubes said: since it's a week off, I think shows are pretty set on general placements, so here are my predictions. 1. Sulphur Springs - They beat out Celina at princeton, and their show is better suited to place better based on the updated score cards as compared to Celina. I also think overall, SS has shown more consistent and largers growth from week to week as compared to Celina. 2. Farmersville - They may not be as clean as Celina, but I believe their show is more technical than Celina's which may give them the edge. They also beat alvarado twice in the same competition if I remember correctly which beat Celina and Canton. North Lamar seemed to be close to Farmersville at royse city, but I really just think Farmersville had a bad run since later that day at Celina, they beat out North Lamar in Prelims and Finals and was pretty close to winning the competition. 3. Celina - Very clean show and performed fantastically. I just think SS and Farmersville have more technical shows which will place better with the judges presuming the judges actually judge properly without biased to any band. I know they are a great band and won 2 championships back to back, but I really don't think that type of show will keep winning as we see 4a is starting to transition into more complex and intricate shows like 5a and 6a. 4. I think Canton will take forth just because they did compete very strongly in area b for many years and they did make state very consistently. I have seen them taper off and they got beat out by every other band I placed ahead of them even if it wasn't directly. 5. I think North Lamar will strongly compete with Canton for the 4th and 5th spot since they are both extremely great bands, unless I see a tremendous growth though; I don't feel comfortable placing them top 3 since those bands are just powerhouses this year, and we've seen those bands consistently above the rest this season. 6. Lumberton - I really don't have a definite band to take the last 2 state spots since the remaining bands are just so close. I will give it to lumberton though since while some other bands may be a bit cleaner, I think after this point in placements size will start meaning a little more to the judges. 7. Van Alstyne or Paris - I really can't give it to either band. Both bands are great and both deserve the spot, but they are just really close from what I've seen. Of course community is still in play along with Pine Tree, but I don't think they are as clean as the other two in many aspects of their show. Have you looked at the new scoring sheets? You think judges would be choosing finalists based on size? The new score sheets & judges guide aim to bring focus back to music & marching (and doing both at the same time). joeswansonlover69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viejo Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 9 minutes ago, SETXgal said: Have you looked at the new scoring sheets? You think judges would be choosing finalists based on size? The new score sheets & judges guide aim to bring focus back to music & marching (and doing both at the same time). HUGE ON THE DOING IT AT THE SAME TIME. I hate to be the person who says this but a lot of these shows have no hard music while marching. Most don’t truly challenge the marchers on field. SETXgal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viejo Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Just now, viejo said: HUGE ON THE DOING IT AT THE SAME TIME. I hate to be the person who says this but a lot of these shows have no hard music while marching. Most don’t truly challenge the marchers on field. Also why shows like Canton and PT are overlooked because the shows are hard and they can barely execute them well. If they were able to pull the shows off there’s no chance any of these bands could come up to them. joeswansonlover69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRaccoons Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Do you guys think hargrave might have a chance at making it past area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SETXgal Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 24 minutes ago, viejo said: Also why shows like Canton and PT are overlooked because the shows are hard and they can barely execute them well. If they were able to pull the shows off there’s no chance any of these bands could come up to them. I need to go find & watch videos of their shows this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SETXgal Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 minute ago, lin_disgrace said: Do you guys think hargrave might have a chance at making it past area? Do you have a video of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viejo Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 minute ago, SETXgal said: I need to go find & watch videos of their shows this week. Buddy of mines kid goes to PT and we can never find any videos of him other than the football games (yeah that kinda quality) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRaccoons Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 7 minutes ago, SETXgal said: Do you have a video of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarbagePatchKid Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 A slightly revised schedule has been posted. Not as different as I was told it was going to be. Looks like they moved the break earlier but that really only ends up helping three bands. Hopefully it will keep the Celina and PG kids from 5am call times after away games the night before https://www.uilregion21.org/uploads/cms/nav-24-671ec05616495.pdf Saxtastic45 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SETXgal Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 13 hours ago, criscubes said: since it's a week off, I think shows are pretty set on general placements, so here are my predictions. 1. Sulphur Springs - They beat out Celina at princeton, and their show is better suited to place better based on the updated score cards as compared to Celina. I also think overall, SS has shown more consistent and largers growth from week to week as compared to Celina. 2. Farmersville - They may not be as clean as Celina, but I believe their show is more technical than Celina's which may give them the edge. They also beat alvarado twice in the same competition if I remember correctly which beat Celina and Canton. North Lamar seemed to be close to Farmersville at royse city, but I really just think Farmersville had a bad run since later that day at Celina, they beat out North Lamar in Prelims and Finals and was pretty close to winning the competition. 3. Celina - Very clean show and performed fantastically. I just think SS and Farmersville have more technical shows which will place better with the judges presuming the judges actually judge properly without biased to any band. I know they are a great band and won 2 championships back to back, but I really don't think that type of show will keep winning as we see 4a is starting to transition into more complex and intricate shows like 5a and 6a. 4. I think Canton will take forth just because they did compete very strongly in area b for many years and they did make state very consistently. I have seen them taper off and they got beat out by every other band I placed ahead of them even if it wasn't directly. 5. I think North Lamar will strongly compete with Canton for the 4th and 5th spot since they are both extremely great bands, unless I see a tremendous growth though; I don't feel comfortable placing them top 3 since those bands are just powerhouses this year, and we've seen those bands consistently above the rest this season. 6. Lumberton - I really don't have a definite band to take the last 2 state spots since the remaining bands are just so close. I will give it to lumberton though since while some other bands may be a bit cleaner, I think after this point in placements size will start meaning a little more to the judges. 7. Van Alstyne or Paris - I really can't give it to either band. Both bands are great and both deserve the spot, but they are just really close from what I've seen. Of course community is still in play along with Pine Tree, but I don't think they are as clean as the other two in many aspects of their show. A week off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandConnoisseur Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 3 minutes ago, SETXgal said: A week off? I think they meant "a week away". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 10 hours ago, GarbagePatchKid said: A slightly revised schedule has been posted. Not as different as I was told it was going to be. Looks like they moved the break earlier but that really only ends up helping three bands. Hopefully it will keep the Celina and PG kids from 5am call times after away games the night before https://www.uilregion21.org/uploads/cms/nav-24-671ec05616495.pdf The change looks shady if you ask me. Lunch break after only a few bands? Should be giving the judges a longer break later. Like the original schedule. Wonder what made them think the change was necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarbagePatchKid Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 28 minutes ago, Fanboy said: The change looks shady if you ask me. Lunch break after only a few bands? Should be giving the judges a longer break later. Like the original schedule. Wonder what made them think the change was necessary. Not shady. Originally they were anticipating likely rain delays in the morning. Although now it looks more like rain all day, unfortunately. I think the weather combined with the 2+ hour distances some band have to travel that the day is going to end up a mess all the way around unless the weather takes a significant turn. I think anything they can do to make it possible for bands to perform safely and on equal standing will be appreciated by all. Some bands are naturally going to be at a disadvantage based on what the weather is doing and performance times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viejo Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Is there a chance it’ll get canceled? Maybe there won’t even be a finals run at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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