UIL 6A State Marching Contest 2024 (Nov 11-12)

[klkflute]

does anyone know what hebron got in prelims last year?

[qwertytb12]

9 hours ago, lost said:

I wouldn't be shocked to see Vista Ridge medal tomorrow night. I don't think they'd had issues with their ensemble scores until tonight. Although I'm unsure if their percussion will still score 1st overall with their terrible slotting.

What is bad about there time slot, If anything it plays to their advantage because once they hear Vista perc, every group will get compared to them, if none are better, easy first

[qwertytb12]

10 minutes ago, cheeto2401 said:

100% sure Seven Lakes will be consistent state finalists from here!!

I dont think so, unless you are always a top half group, its hard to be a consistent state finlaist, epecially withj the area like Area D who never send the same 5 bands to state every year

[TypicalBandNerd]

8 hours ago, BandMom06 said:

Congrats to everyone that competed today and to though’s who made finals. I will say I am completely shocked in Cy woods placement. Their show is so fun and they looked amazing today, not worth a 29 place finish at all. 

As a Woods Alum, I’m a bit bummed that they keep placing low at state. I genuinely thought they would’ve been at least in the top 20. I think they’re just more of a BOA band than UIL which that’s perfectly fine. Regardless of the results, I hope that the kids don’t let this one placement diminish the incredible season that they’ve had and had a show that truly resonated with people. This is probably the most consistent I’ve ever seen the program be. Their future is very bright and I know that they’re going to keep improving from here.

[WoodlandsMom4ever]

1 hour ago, tubapop said:

Eh? Which woodlands director? 

Kyle Witty was The Woodlands assistant director that left in 2022.  He took a year off and started with Seven Lakes in fall 2023.  He’s fantastic! 

[slowbrass]

42 minutes ago, klkflute said:

does anyone know what hebron got in prelims last year?

Third

[TrenBS]

For anyone who has the sheets, I think UIL has to discuss alignment changes to area J, cause in regards to average placements they are a horrendous outlier compared to every other area including area H and B who even a few years ago H was definitely better overall but didnt have this level of top heaviness with their groups

 

Im getting to the point to where I wouldnt mind moving LISD to area C and make that one 5 slots to state and have J be 3 slots to state, and if you can see the sheets you would really understand why

[personofaperson]

WHAT A LONG DAY YALL!!! Congrats to the Cedar Ridge band for making it back into finals and the Seven Lakes band for FINALLY getting to the State Finals! This day was filled with many exciting bands from 40 of the best. I congratulate every band here for giving their best show!
Although, with this, I have some things to say, and I may get a little negative here.

For some of the bands that placed in 20th or below, I am so sorry for what scores you had to go through. Some of the scores down there do not make any sense at all. It seems some the bands who also went in the first block got hit with the worst of these scores.
Even then, a lot of these bands got hit with what felt like random numbers to place them on a leaderboard. And I just feel so sad for these kids who worked so hard and probably had some of their best runs just for them to be placed somewhere they did not expect

I would like to list some bands that I thought were hit with the worst judging:

1. Woods in 29th?! I did not have this on my bucket list but I am sure one person made a lot of money if they bet this would happen. While I do note that UIL differs from BOA judging, they still do not add up with this. I just feel like something happened and I really want to know what the judges saw for this since I did not see this show as a 29th-place show. Especially after rewatching all shows at midnight. (Do not worry I got sleep)

2. John B Alexander IN LAST?!?!? Like I said previously, that show hit me like a truck! The amount of emotions I was feeling during that show, and the storytelling they had. I am glad their content and design were a bit higher than the other scores but this show was nowhere NEAR last place. 

3. Dawson I felt got really hosed as well. Those kids looked and sounded spectacular, especially sounded! But the judges gave them lower music scores for what they had. I really thought these kids would be higher but I guess not...

4. Duncanville placement shocked me. I did not expect that, that's all.

5. Pebble Hills had such extreme difficulty in their music and I was hoping that would reward them in the end, but some aspects did not give them the rewards. It sucks, this band was one of my favorites of the night.

OTHER MENTIONS:

Dripping Springs
Waxahachie
Sachse
CTJ


For the kids who did not make finals this year, know this. It may now be the end of your first or last marching season, but do not let these scores bring you down in any way. Do not let your whole marching season be remembered by bad scores of any kind. It is not about the scores, it's about having fun with your band and other bands along with you. Just making it to the State Finals is amazing enough! You guys made so many new memories with friends and other bands, and you got to perform here, in the dome.

Make lifelong memories that you will never forget.

That's it for me! I may comment for Grand Nats, but other than that, see yall next year!
Love you all!
❤️

[Samuel Culper]

3 minutes ago, TrenBS said:

For anyone who has the sheets, I think UIL has to discuss alignment changes to area J, cause in regards to average placements they are a horrendous outlier compared to every other area including area H and B who even a few years ago H was definitely better overall but didnt have this level of top heaviness with their groups

Realignment results in a domino effect, so it's a tough process to initiate. The #4 qualifier from J narrowly missed Finals, but still missed. So at least we know the Finalist level bands all advanced to State, which to my mind is the first aim of Area.

[TrenBS]

3 minutes ago, Samuel Culper said:

Realignment results in a domino effect, so it's a tough process to initiate. The #4 qualifier from J narrowly missed Finals, but still missed. So at least we know the Finalist level bands all advanced to State, which to my mind is the first aim of Area.

I would be inclined to agree with you, but zero area C bands made finals, and in my opinion, areas shouldnt be restricting any new faces to state just so 4 bands who are grand nats finals or UIL finals bands have an easy time going to state, in my opinion

 

And plus, Wylie and Braswell wouldve most likely placed above most if not all of the C bands given the UIL sheets, area J is horrendously too dense right now and leaves zero give on that front

[Fez76]

1 hour ago, TypicalBandNerd said:

As a Woods Alum, I’m a bit bummed that they keep placing low at state. I genuinely thought they would’ve been at least in the top 20. I think they’re just more of a BOA band than UIL which that’s perfectly fine. Regardless of the results, I hope that the kids don’t let this one placement diminish the incredible season that they’ve had and had a show that truly resonated with people. This is probably the most consistent I’ve ever seen the program be. Their future is very bright and I know that they’re going to keep improving from here.

Woods is slightly more BOA-oriented for sure, but it’s not like they can’t perform with UIL. People on this board are saying that the TMC and State score sheets are the same, and Woods did very well at TMC. Also, they took first place at Area, which is also UIL. 

[LeanderMomma]

16 hours ago, RouseCasa said:

Cedar Ridge color guard member tossed her rifle so high I don’t think it’s come down yet 🤯 

That was Robert. He’s magnificent!!! 

[Yacob]

18 minutes ago, personofaperson said:

WHAT A LONG DAY YALL!!! Congrats to the Cedar Ridge band for making it back into finals and the Seven Lakes band for FINALLY getting to the State Finals! This day was filled with many exciting bands from 40 of the best. I congratulate every band here for giving their best show!
Although, with this, I have some things to say, and I may get a little negative here.

For some of the bands that placed in 20th or below, I am so sorry for what scores you had to go through. Some of the scores down there do not make any sense at all. It seems some the bands who also went in the first block got hit with the worst of these scores.
Even then, a lot of these bands got hit with what felt like random numbers to place them on a leaderboard. And I just feel so sad for these kids who worked so hard and probably had some of their best runs just for them to be placed somewhere they did not expect

I would like to list some bands that I thought were hit with the worst judging:

1. Woods in 29th?! I did not have this on my bucket list but I am sure one person made a lot of money if they bet this would happen. While I do note that UIL differs from BOA judging, they still do not add up with this. I just feel like something happened and I really want to know what the judges saw for this since I did not see this show as a 29th-place show. Especially after rewatching all shows at midnight. (Do not worry I got sleep)

2. John B Alexander IN LAST?!?!? Like I said previously, that show hit me like a truck! The amount of emotions I was feeling during that show, and the storytelling they had. I am glad their content and design were a bit higher than the other scores but this show was nowhere NEAR last place. 

3. Dawson I felt got really hosed as well. Those kids looked and sounded spectacular, especially sounded! But the judges gave them lower music scores for what they had. I really thought these kids would be higher but I guess not...

4. Duncanville placement shocked me. I did not expect that, that's all.

5. Pebble Hills had such extreme difficulty in their music and I was hoping that would reward them in the end, but some aspects did not give them the rewards. It sucks, this band was one of my favorites of the night.

OTHER MENTIONS:

Dripping Springs
Waxahachie
Sachse
CTJ


For the kids who did not make finals this year, know this. It may now be the end of your first or last marching season, but do not let these scores bring you down in any way. Do not let your whole marching season be remembered by bad scores of any kind. It is not about the scores, it's about having fun with your band and other bands along with you. Just making it to the State Finals is amazing enough! You guys made so many new memories with friends and other bands, and you got to perform here, in the dome.

Make lifelong memories that you will never forget.

That's it for me! I may comment for Grand Nats, but other than that, see yall next year!
Love you all!
❤️

thank you for those words!

as a Dickinson kid- we didn’t make finals, in fact we made 35th…. So for any outsiders that watched our show (the candy show), Do y’all think we deserved that placement? 
 

we thought we had a great run, was it not as great as we thought?

 

 

[TrenBS]

Not trying to flood this, but I think in regards to individual placements below 19ish, anyone from 20 and below shouldnt worry about their placement too much since the judging as a whole is… interesting, obviously wont spoil anything right now but I personally thought all these bands did amazing, and if all the performers came off that field feeling fantastic about the run and the experience, thats all that matters in regards to the SMBC, these individual placements dont define a band objectively (weird as that sounds, but the judging was pretty wack as a whole, percussion caption felt like just a battery judge), and this is probably the most skilled SMBC in regards to the students talent

[TexasEx]

9 minutes ago, Yacob said:

thank you for those words!

as a Dickinson kid- we didn’t make finals, in fact we made 35th…. So for any outsiders that watched our show (the candy show), Do y’all think we deserved that placement? 
 

we thought we had a great run, was it not as great as we thought?

 

 

You’re in the TOP 40 bands of 250ish across the state. That’s basically the top 16% of 6A bands in the state. While easier  said than understood in the moment, these placements do not subtract from what an accomplishment your program has achieved. Congrats on a great season! 

[TrumpetDadSL]

4 minutes ago, Yacob said:

thank you for those words!

as a Dickinson kid- we didn’t make finals, in fact we made 35th…. So for any outsiders that watched our show (the candy show), Do y’all think we deserved that placement? 
 

we thought we had a great run, was it not as great as we thought?

 

 

I saw your show at Webster and loved it. 
 

You finished in the Top 15% of bands in this amazing state. Be proud of that. All the judges scoring varies, they are humans. 
 

Think of where you were that first day of practice in July to now. Reflect on that accomplishment and the fun you had along the way. 

[Houston213]

27 minutes ago, Fez76 said:

Woods is slightly more BOA-oriented for sure, but it’s not like they can’t perform with UIL. People on this board are saying that the TMC and State score sheets are the same, and Woods did very well at TMC. Also, they took first place at Area, which is also UIL. 

slight correction but Bridgeland won area I this year due to some UIL rule on getting two 1s in music and one 1 in visual. Apparently that automatically makes you the winner by default. But if it wasn't for that rule, woods would have remained area champion. This info came out a day or two after the original area results. 

[wheels]

So happy for 7Lakes. They have been constantly really strong since Mays took over in 2016. They have made finals in every BOA event they take part in except SASR. It’s really difficult to break through that top 15 wall because the level of excellence in Texas is amazing. I believe their best BOA finish was 2nd losing out to CTJ in 2018 & best UIL state was 9th in the Covid year. I don’t expect they’ll break into the top 10 this year but I think the future is bright. 

[TrumpetDadSL]

 

4 minutes ago, Houston213 said:

slight correction but Bridgeland won area I this year due to some UIL rule on getting two 1s in music and one 1 in visual. Apparently that automatically makes you the winner by default. But if it wasn't for that rule, woods would have remained area champion. This info came out a day or two after area results. 

Did not know that. They definitely deserved it, having to stop and restart 4+ hours later and then perform like they did. Truly impressive and a fun show!

[MHS Band Dad]

Does anyone know why Vandegrift was absent for the awards last night? 

[Fez76]

6 minutes ago, Houston213 said:

slight correction but Bridgeland won area I this year due to some UIL rule on getting two 1s in music and one 1 in visual. Apparently that automatically makes you the winner by default. But if it wasn't for that rule, woods would have remained area champion. This info came out a day or two after area results. 

This is correct, but I didn’t say Woods was the champion. Woods score put them in 1st place, and that remains true. 

[Fez76]

7 minutes ago, TrumpetDadSL said:

 

Did not know that. They definitely deserved it, having to stop and restart 4+ hours later and then perform like they did. Truly impressive and a fun show!

Yes, it was an egregious oversight by the UIL to name a champion and then remove the title days later. It’s a dumb rule, too. Makes sense for determining if a band can advance to state, but not for placements. Woods has had a confusing and frustrating week for sure! I hope they take it as fuel to make them even stronger. There is so much talent in that program. The future is bright!

[Keenoid]

49 minutes ago, TrenBS said:

I would be inclined to agree with you, but zero area C bands made finals, and in my opinion, areas shouldnt be restricting any new faces to state just so 4 bands who are grand nats finals or UIL finals bands have an easy time going to state, in my opinion

 

And plus, Wylie and Braswell wouldve most likely placed above most if not all of the C bands given the UIL sheets, area J is horrendously too dense right now and leaves zero give on that front

I can agree with this. I was so surprised at Wylie not making it given their track record at Area C over the years. 

[wheels]

4 minutes ago, TrumpetDadSL said:

 

Did not know that. They definitely deserved it, having to stop and restart 4+ hours later and then perform like they did. Truly impressive and a fun show!

Area I contest & judging seems to always have some controversy.  This year a state spot was lost going from 5 to 4 because a program was disqualified. What’s great though is you now have so many strong programs in the area it’s going to be a dog fight from now on. The 4 that made it have fanatic shows & are strong programs. I agree the placements at state for C W& CF is a head scratcher. 

[qwertytb12]

41 minutes ago, TexasEx said:

You’re in the TOP 40 bands of 250ish across the state. That’s basically the top 16% of 6A bands in the state. While easier  said than understood in the moment, these placements do not subtract from what an accomplishment your program has achieved. Congrats on a great season! 

Nah there are better bands who didnt make state, its unfair to call mcneil, westwood, churchill, and Bowie worse then these bands. And thats just naming a few