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  get0verit said:
Imagine how Westfield felt before 2003.

 

Class Champions at Nats, but never the actual champion.

Yea, I believe they placed 2nd twice, at two separate GN competitions before they won it in 2003. Now Bell and Reagan are going to be in the hunt in the next few years. These two bands are hungry for the eagle.

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  GuitarJoe said:
Westfield finished 2nd in 1990 and 1995.

 

Two 2nd places and a win ain't half bad.

Indeed, especially after Westfield's over a decade long run of never placing below 2nd at any competition they participated in.

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  chickora said:
god i wish i had teh money to go up there and see some amazing bands.

Don't we all?

 

*cough* and uhm...apparently...er...the bus and plane both ran outta gas...that's why we couldn't go. :P

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  itsstephenyo said:
Indeed, especially after Westfield's over a decade long run of never placing below 2nd at any competition they participated in.

Exactly. This was also during the time they were dominating UIL along with Spring HS.

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  itsstephenyo said:
I'm calling it now. Bell and Reagan are going to win GN in 2007 and 2008, depending on which band goes when. Bell's been creeping up on it for too long now, and Reagan has two 2nd places under their belt.

You think Reagan will? Because they didn't do so hot this year compared to their previous years. Has Bell gone to Grand Nats every year??

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  Dizlilnikkaboy said:
You think Reagan will? Because they didn't do so hot this year compared to their previous years. Has Bell gone to Grand Nats every year??

It's a 5A state year, and Reagan's show was much more fine tuned for the UIL Marching contests. LD Bell is also relatively new to the BOA scene. I don't know how long they've been in attendance, but I believe it has only been about 5 or 6 years (anyone know for sure? Correct me if I'm wrong!). Anyway, the explanation for Reagan's so called "not doing too well compared to previous years," is probably due to the fact that much of what bands put into their shows for BOA just doesn't translate the same in UIL. This is mostly due to differences in the amount of possible points that can be given to a band for marching, music, and visual. The point system in both events is just different, as are both contests.

 

Overall though, I'm in agreement that one of these two bands will win Grand Nationals in the near future. Whether or not it'll be next year or the year after that, I don't know, but it would be pretty awesome.

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Bell attended a couple regionals in the early 1990's and had couple finals finishes. They returned to BOA in 1997 I believe, never really breaking the top 5, and then they had a big turnaround in 1999 and 2000 that paved the way to the Bell we have now.

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I think so...I mean, it seems a constant factor that the earlier you go, the better chances that you won't do so hot with placements. Obviously, there are many exceptions but I still believe that this 'theory' holds truth.

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  MartinHorn said:
Do you guys really think that The Woodlands going first really killed them in Finals?

Absolutely. It does usually for ANY band that performs first. That's just the nature of the beast.

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Ronald Reagan went first in 2003 and got 2nd.

Center Grove went first in 1999 and got 2nd.

 

And that's the closest to the eagle for bands that perform first at Finals.

 

With a quick sweep of BOA Grand Nats Records, I can conclude that,

 

There has never been a band that performed first in Finals and ended up winning the eagle.

 

Someone should do a statistical analysis of this.

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What I've heard is that judges are supposed to make the score a tad bit lower due to the fact that they tend to score a bit higher. Heh, you would think so at least.

 

If they REALLY liked the show they may just keep it at that high score in some points.

 

Idk, that is just what I've been told.

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Sorry for the double post, but you have to remember also that this isn't UIL. At Grand Nats the finals judges are given a recap from prelims and semis.

 

So they don't come in completely blind, they have an idea of where people are expected to finish, so therefore it's only up to the bands to show the judges that they really do deserve that 1st place finish.

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