Carrolton TOC

[borchnork]

oh ok!

 

wow... we actually placed higher in ge than somebody. That's weird.

[ddmwingz]

actually, our GE last year wasnt as bad as we thought. i was lookin at some of the scores from last year. lets just say that our non-wind sections hurt us pretty bad

[JustAddWat3r]

i still dont understand how you judge GE...

[borchnork]

it's all on opinion I feel. I strongly disagree w/ a lot of judges opinions though.

 

I think our guard this year won't hold us that far down at Area. Last time around, I think they were a major cause of our placement, but this year, I feel like it's a completely different story.

[ddmwingz]

Actually, all of judging is an opinion but, GE is only slightly more opinionated than the other categories. i found a really good explanation once. ill see if i can find it.

[selby]

  JustAddWat3r said:

i still dont understand how you judge GE...

From http://nshsband.org/toc/scoring.php

 

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General Effect (20%)

 

This adjudicator evaluates the entire production. He comments on the continuity and flow of the show, the variety of musical styles and tempos, use of the color guard and/or auxiliary groups, and the general impact of the show. He examines the drill design for difficulty, originality, and coordination with the music. The staging of both musical and visual elements, attention to detail, and appearance of the uniform are taken into consideration in this caption.

So I guess it's really not that dependent on visuals, that's only a part of it? I'm not too sure..

[riverfan]

Thanks much, yalls show is gonna be awesome come area when we see each other again, cant wait to see it completed. I am stoked to see birdville and sherman. Sure they're gonna be awesome just like two years ago, gonna be a heck of a fight.

[JustAddWat3r]

someone told me its how music flows with the drill, and ultimatly flows with the general idea of the show

[borchnork]

so it's like an overall sort of thing. that's weird.

[JustAddWat3r]

hmm...after thinking about it, i still dont see how wylie got GE...dont get me wrong, wylie did AMAZING both prelims and finals, but i didnt get the point of the overall show...i didnt even catch the title. =\

[ddmwingz]

I can't find the explanation that I read before, but I'll try and sum it up.

 

General Effect takes into account the whole show. It takes into account difficulty and execution, the variety of styles and tempos in both music and marching, and how auxiliary parts of the show, such as the guard or body moves, fit in with the music. General effect looks at how the music and the marching fit together. For example, if you have a part of the music that is extremely flowing and beautiful, it would make sense to have a form with a lot of sharp corners or chaos going on. Another example could be if the music was very harsh and 'fiery' you wouldnt want the guard using peacefully blue flags.

Contrary to what many believe, general effect is NOT how much a show pleases the crowd(though, shows with good general effect often do this), rather, it is the relevancy of visual and auditory aspects of the music, as well as difficulty and execution.

 

If anyone has anything to add or disagree with, id love to hear it, cuz id love to learn more.

[selby]

I was thinking about that too, I didn't see much of a theme in their show, although it was exceptionally well performed both in marching and music, they were definitely deserving of first place last night.

[borchnork]

Wylie's show is still a giant ? to me.

 

 

their shirts had a ddr sort of look to it...? maybe that helps. I still feel that Creekview OVERALL (Since ge is OVERALL impression) impressed me the most.

[Vegiphobe]

  borchnork said:

Wylie's show is still a giant ? to me.

Yeah that's the way I feel about it too. They sounded great, it's just I didn't understand a single concept of that show, and was a little dissapointed that some sets such as some simple forms as lines didn't quite lock in. The show in general just seemed a bit random and ill-placed. But once again grats to them.

 

Here's an interesting tidbit. Our marching director also wrote the drill for Aledo =0.

[borchnork]

  Vegiphobe said:

Here's an interesting tidbit.  Our marching director also wrote the drill for Aledo =0.

then your director is my hero.

 

To produce to amazing shows in one year is astounding to me.

 

ooppss... wrong spelling.. TWO amazing shows.

Edited October 8, 2007 by borchnork

[ddmwingz]

i like your directors drill writing

[JustAddWat3r]

all i remember from wylies visuals were the "hebron" moves...lol...so im guessing GE has nothign to do with visuals

[riverfan]

Is your marching director's name Matt Garrett by any chance? He's done a great job with our show and he's supposedly coming out on monday to work with us. I can see he has done an amazing job with yall.

[JustAddWat3r]

haha yes...he told us about you guys actually. once i saw ur show i knew he wrote it...lol its so mr garrett like.

 

im guessing u guys have school monday?

[riverfan]

No, we dont have school, our directors in their infinite wisdom (sigh...) planned a night practice on a holiday. Brilliant...

[Vegiphobe]

  riverfan said:

No, we dont have school, our directors in their infinite wisdom (sigh...) planned a night practice on a holiday. Brilliant...

Sorry to hear that. =( At least you get to have a clinician with your drill writer, that'll make you have a better understanding for the show/drill and it should be interesting .

[borchnork]

I've always wanted that to happen with us. =[

 

we have practice tomorrow too, even though we don't have school.

[JustAddWat3r]

just out of curiosity...what are everyone's practice hours?

[the terminator]

yeah we are performing at Frisco Memorial tommorow. I'm looking forward to it only b/c now that the freshman has a contest under their belt, even if it was a easy one, we will have the confidence and motivation to work harder for Little Elm. Hopefully eligibilty won't kill us

[borchnork]

centennial:

 

4:30-6:30 on everday except wednesday, which is 4:30-6:00 for church.