QuadraticBeats Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Personally, I feel that my Devs are going to fall a place or two, perhaps more. Cavs may be a contender for first again, but more likely second unless their hornline makes a miraculous leap in progress - nonetheless, they'll certainly be better than last year. Cadets may step it up, hopefully surprising us with a more traditional show - I believe that they'll probably sit around where they are. There's about five corps that immediately strike my mind as possibly being much more competitive next year: First and foremost, there's Phantom Regiment. One only needs to compare the late July shows with those shows closer to finals to see how much progress the corps made in a year - additionally, compare their '07 show directly to Faust ('06); even then, one can find significant improvement. If Valenzuela keeps this rate of development up without any significant losses of the corps' talent and performance ability in between the seasons, the corps will go very far with a well put together show. Secondly, there's the Bluecoats. Up until the end of the season, the corps led brass and was a contender for high percussion, which demonstrates the quality of the corps - perhaps with more cleaning and visual work, as well as shows that continue to be excellent in design, the Bluecoats should win more than just one competition over the current powerhouses of the activity. The Santa Clara Vanguard made great improvements between last season and the end of this one - in my opinion, the show itself was the best put together on the field. Unsurprisingly, having both Key Poulan and "Sly" Sybilski (the Cavaliers Visual Caption Head until the end '06) on your corps staff will tend to result in the formation of that opinion. Their design team is there, and the members' throughout the corps have developed tremendously since the '06 rebuilding season. However, due to (yet more) recent music caption head changes in Brass and Percussion, it cannot be certain as to whether or not they will continue to develop as strongly. For what was almost a brand new corps, the Crossmen made a strong debut - it is amazing to contrast the corps' sound in the early season to its sound at finals. Though this goes with no offense to any who marched with them last season... to put it quite politely, the trumpet section was not at the same level as the rest of the hornline. Consistently cracking pitches and having sporadic tone quality while marching distracts greatly from how well the rest of the ensemble is performing - hopefully this will change. Secondly, though the pit was essentially composed of complete rookies (like most of the corps), and though it is also not a distraction to the ensemble, it falls short in comparison to the performance level of a good number of its competitors. This should definitely improve given the instructors and assumably high number of returning members next year. And lastly, there's the Madison Scouts. For a group with a rookie situation quite like that of the Crossmen this past season, the Madison Scouts performed quite impressively given their nearly complete rewrite of their original show in the middle of the season. One look at the staff for this upcoming year, combined with their efforts in this past season, as well as what will probably be a high member retention for this upcoming season, seems to indicate that the corps will at the very least be back in Finals. Stop wasting your time reading this now and go do homework. Quote
bluebellbrass07 Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 The Santa Clara vanguard Carolina Crown The Blue Stars The madison scouts Quote
NSUMusician Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 I think Crown falls a few spots. I think we'll see them in the 7 to 8 range this next year. With the "politics" of DCI, PR and the Cadets are due for a win. We'll see. I honestly could see it going: Cadets, PR, Cavies/BD TIE, SCV, 'Coats, Crown, and then I don't know after that. That prediction is just going by the politics of DCI. Quote
tubanerd126 Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 I think Crowns gonna keep going up im hoping 4th or 5th, but i am trying out for Crown and they are my favorite corp. And I wont be able to make any predictions till i hear the show ideas The one thing i want is for everyone to realize how big of an idiot George Hopkins is. He's turning drum corp into BOA with all his props and vocals. But hey, thats probably just me. Quote
bluebellbrass07 Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 tubanerd126 said: The one thing i want is for everyone to realize how big of an idiot George Hopkins is. He's turning drum corp into BOA with all his props and vocals. But hey, thats probably just me. Hes an idiot whose corps is consistently in the top 4 or 5. Hes not turning drum corps into BOA. Vocals are allowed in DCI, so if want to blame someone blame the people that approved vocals and amps Quote
smoke_dawg_08 Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 bluebellbrass07 said: Hes an idiot whose corps is consistently in the top 4 or 5. Hes not turning drum corps into BOA. Vocals are allowed in DCI, so if want to blame someone blame the people that approved vocals and amps lmao, which would in return mean that all of the executive members of the DCI board are idiots. lol. owned! Quote
Moose Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 QuadraticBeats said: Secondly, though the pit was essentially composed of complete rookies (like most of the corps), and though it is also not a distraction to the ensemble, it falls short in comparison to the performance level of a good number of its competitors. This should definitely improve given the instructors and assumably high number of returning members next year. Ummm.....The pit was one of the best sections of the 2007 corps. They were the fuel throughout the entire show, and played an incredibly difficult book really well. A they were also not composed of complete rookies. In fact, the pit had the highest percentage of members with previous corps experience, 80% having marched before. The Crossmen pit had 3 members from the 2006 Crossmen, 1 from 2006 Carolina Crown, and 4 from various division 2 corps. Only 2 had never marched drum corps before. The pit (and battery) was the most consistent section in the Crossmen, as is evident by the relatively high percussion scores all season. You are wrong on basically every level. Get your facts straight, bud. Quote
bluebellbrass07 Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 smoke_dawg_08 said: lmao, which would in return mean that all of the executive members of the DCI board are idiots. lol. owned! Are you saing I was owned or he was? Quote
radchad Posted October 17, 2007 Posted October 17, 2007 From what I have seen... You either like George Hopkins or you don't. I don't, but it's not really for the whole PROP and VOCALS thing. (Although, I think both years it could have been toned down a bit.) There are other situations that George Hopkins has been involved in that make me angry. I won't get into those, though. xD Anyway. I was really rooting for the 'Coats this year. They've had AWESOME show concepts in the past few years. I think the ONLY thing lacking is drill design. Parts of it didn't fit or didn't make sense. Hopefully they kick butt next year. And SCV. I definitely agree with what you said. They've handled all the staff changes over the past few years really well. D: I was horrified in '05 when they lost a lot of their staff. I felt bad for 'em, yet they still managed 8th place at championships? I can't quite remember. I am trying out for the 'Coats and SCV this year. So we'll see. :] Quote
QuadraticBeats Posted October 17, 2007 Author Posted October 17, 2007 Moose said: Ummm.....The pit was one of the best sections of the 2007 corps. They were the fuel throughout the entire show, and played an incredibly difficult book really well. A they were also not composed of complete rookies. In fact, the pit had the highest percentage of members with previous corps experience, 80% having marched before. The Crossmen pit had 3 members from the 2006 Crossmen, 1 from 2006 Carolina Crown, and 4 from various division 2 corps. Only 2 had never marched drum corps before. The pit (and battery) was the most consistent section in the Crossmen, as is evident by the relatively high percussion scores all season. You are wrong on basically every level. Get your facts straight, bud. Well... my apologies for this apparent slight. Forgive me for not knowing who was in the pit, or the book they played, or their level of performance within the corps, given that I didn't actually march there. In addition, by rookies, I meant rookies to the corps... so instead of complete rookies I suppose they were 7/10s rookies by my definition - I should have clarified my meaning. My assumptions were based off of what seemed to be the case from what little information I had available to me, as well as the EnCorps videos - so my opinion was essentially guesswork. So, indeed, now that I have some definite information, it appears that my assumptions were erroneous, and this is good to know: for I do not like to be wrong, particularly when being wrong unintentionally draws hostility. Nonetheless, this does put the Bones' percussion up a healthy bit more in my opinion, so thank you for your clarification. Quote
TX Suh-nare Posted October 20, 2007 Posted October 20, 2007 OK, I may not be the biggest fan in the universe of talking on the hallowed 100-yard stage, but I can't tolerate any more bashing of George Hopkins as a person. Actually meet the guy. Talk to him. There's a wealth of knowledge in that head of his, and if you talk to almost any person that has marched under him at the Cadets, they don't all agree with his ideas, but they love him like a father, because he treats them like his kids. After two years of seeing people declare his stupidity as a director and his evil ways of steering DCI wrong, it's about time to stop. After all, look at what he's done for the Cadets. They have never won a championship without him leading them. If you don't like his ideas, fine. Just leave him alone. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. Quote
xbones7480 Posted October 20, 2007 Posted October 20, 2007 Biggest surprise may be the Crossmen. It will be great to see them on their own again after 11 years. It's not even November and they have over 400 applicants already. They also expect a big '07 vet return. Biggest challenge will be their independence status and how the administration handles that. I believe that they've learned a lot from last summer and that they will surprise a lot of people next summer. They have good people at the helm. If I donate to anyone, it will be the Crossmen. They're gonna need the money the most this year. They need new horns, buses, and need sponsors; looking forward to the campaigns for these. I've got my checkbook ready. Bones! Quote
QuadraticBeats Posted October 24, 2007 Author Posted October 24, 2007 xbones7480 said: Biggest surprise may be the Crossmen. It will be great to see them on their own again after 11 years. It's not even November and they have over 400 applicants already. They also expect a big '07 vet return. Biggest challenge will be their independence status and how the administration handles that. I believe that they've learned a lot from last summer and that they will surprise a lot of people next summer. They have good people at the helm. If I donate to anyone, it will be the Crossmen. They're gonna need the money the most this year. They need new horns, buses, and need sponsors; looking forward to the campaigns for these. I've got my checkbook ready. Bones! I don't think anyone who has actually watched the Crossmen more than once or twice is going to surprised. Best of luck to anyone trying out for percussion... ~80 snares and ~40 tenors tried out last year, and this year they basically have a completely returning line from what I can gather. If that number stays up there, it should be another lolzfest. In fact, you may find it easier to make say, Bluecoats, or Carolina Crown, or Santa Clara Vanguard, or maybe even Phantom Regiment with those kind of numbers applying. Quote
Aegis Fang Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Phantom Regiment and the Blue Devils will not make finals this year. And Pioneer will take the championship, 5 pointing the cavies who will take 2nd... lol, seriously I dunno. Just a bit of comic relief to such a serious subject... Quote
bluebellbrass07 Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Aegis Fang said: Phantom Regiment and the Blue Devils will not make finals this year. And Pioneer will take the championship, 5 pointing the cavies who will take 2nd... lol, seriously I dunno. Just a bit of comic relief to such a serious subject... I agree. With Pioneers switch to B-flat horns they could be unstopable this year. Quote
bossman Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 does anyone know who they're buying from yet? Quote
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