UIL Area State Qualifier - Oct. 27, 2007

[the ridge emily]

haha yea so true one thing about this time of the year is the getting to miss so much school/..........flippin awesome.....and yea to the "band parent" up there that is extremely dissrepectful to our organization!!!did u even see our finals performance??

[iceeblue2]

  longhornsax said:

found some full Area D results if anyone's interested - http://www.uilmusicregion18.com/marching.html

 

 

 

Thanx!

[capncrunk]

we get to miss 2 days of school! woohooo cant wait!!

[mbui]

Area F Finals

 

Music Judge 1 - Music Judge 2 - Music Judge 3 - Marching Judge 1 - Marching Judge 2

1. Friendswood HS: 1 - 1- 1- 1- 2

2. Dickinson HS: 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 1

3. Little Cypress-Mauriceville HS: 4 - 3 - 5 - 3 - 6

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4. Galena Park HS (Alternate): 5 - 4 - 6 - 4 - 3

5. Vidor HS: 3 - 6 - 4 - 7- 4

6. Lumberton HS: 6 - 5 - 3 - 6 - 7

7. Huntsville HS: 7 - 7- 7- 5- 5

 

Prelims

 

1. Dickinson HS

2. Friendswood HS

3. Lumberton HS

4. Little Cypres-Mauriceville HS

5. Galena Park HS

6. Huntsville HS

7. Vidor HS

8. Barbers Hill HS

9. Dayton HS

10. Santa Fe HS

11. Willis HS

12. Hargrave HS

12. Montgomery HS

14. Crosby HS

15. C.E. King HS

 

Entire Area F recap can be found @:

http://www.uilforms.com/regions/19/AreaMar...eaF-Results.pdf

[Donezo]

I would like to give a shout out to the nine bands who qualified for both 4A State Marching Contest and the state round of the Honor Band Competition. These groups deserve tremendous recognition for displaying excellence both on the marching field and in the concert hall.

 

They are:

Aledo

Alice

Centennial

The Colony

Dickinson

Hendrickson

J. J. Pearce

Poteet

Roma

 

And special recognition should also go to 2005 State Honor Band Friendswood High School who was not eligible for this year's Honor Band Competition, but is still a dominant force in both concert and marching band.

[GenericWit]

  capncrunk said:

we get to miss 2 days of school! woohooo cant wait!!

 

Our principal approved for us to miss 3 days. So, we get to miss Monday-Wednesday (Monday we'll be rehearsing at stadiums near our hotel, mostly and settling in, and Wednesday morning we leave).

 

I miss

 

2 PAP Pre-Cal Classes

2 PAP French Classes

2 Wind Ensemble Classes (somehow, I don't think I'll miss much there. )

2 US History Classes

1 English Class

1 Teacher's Aide class (for my band director... lol)

1 Instrumental Ensemble A class (AKA Wind Ensemble on B Days)

1 PAP Physics Class

 

Yeah, life is good. Though... catching up will be heck. I hope the director gives us study halls when we get back.

 

P.S. Thanks for the recognition. Second in honor band is tres amazing, and making it to state marching is awesome too.

[WCHSParent]

have a question...

 

I was looking at the Area G 4A results

 

http://www.uilforms.com/regions/14/AreaMar...A%20Results.pdf

 

Could someone explain just how the 4th place tie was broken?

 

And by the way...my kids do/did go to Churchill, so I am intimately familiar with 3-way ties! But this one is a nightmare beyond belief!

[Xenon]

  WCHSParent said:

Could someone explain just how the 4th place tie was broken?

Tie 4th - Alice - 3, 2, 8, 9, 4 = 26

Tie 4th - Floresville - 8, 9, 1, 3, 5 = 26

 

If you take out all of the other bands, the ranks then become this:

 

4th - Alice - 1, 1, 2, 2, 1 = 7

5th - Floresville - 2, 2, 1, 1, 2 = 8

[Donezo]

They look at the three bands independently from the rest of the bands and assign ranks of 1-3 for each judge.

 

Alice 2 1 3 3 1 10

Floresville 3 3 1 1 2 10

Calallen 1 2 2 2 3 10

 

So we still have a three-way tie. Now we eliminate Calallen because they have only one 1st place vote:

 

Alice 1 1 2 2 1 7

Floresville 2 2 1 1 2 8

 

So Alice advances.

[WCHSParent]

  Xenon said:

Tie 4th - Alice - 3, 2, 8, 9, 4 = 26

Tie 4th - Floresville - 8, 9, 1, 3, 5 = 26

 

If you take out all of the other bands, the ranks then become this:

 

4th - Alice - 1, 1, 2, 2, 1 = 7

5th - Floresville - 2, 2, 1, 1, 2 = 8

 

It was a 3-way tie, not a 2-way.

[WCHSParent]

  Donezo said:

They look at the three bands independently from the rest of the bands and assign ranks of 1-3 for each judge.

 

Alice 2 1 3 3 1 10

Floresville 3 3 1 1 2 10

Calallen 1 2 2 2 3 10

 

So we still have a three-way tie. Now we eliminate Calallen because they have only one 1st place vote:

 

Alice 1 1 2 2 1 7

Floresville 2 2 1 1 2 8

 

So Alice advances.

 

I knew the first part. Like I said, my kids go/went to Churchill...I got a graduate degree in 3-way ties last year.

 

So after the 3-way failed, they went back to counting 1s?

[Donezo]

  WCHSParent said:

I knew the first part. Like I said, my kids go/went to Churchill...I got a graduate degree in 3-way ties last year.

 

So after the 3-way failed, they went back to counting 1s?

 

I believe so. I'm still not sure where the state 06 tie breaker went wrong. After the three-way tie breaker, Churchill was clearly on top.

[WCHSParent]

  Donezo said:

I believe so. I'm still not sure where the state 06 tie breaker went wrong. After the three-way tie breaker, Churchill was clearly on top.

 

The reason it went wrong is because it wasn't used. They immediately went to the "counting 1s" phase.

 

Their explanation after the fact was that "counting 1s" and the published 3-way procedures always yielded the same answers in the past...well, last year they didn't.

[Xenon]

  WCHSParent said:

It was a 3-way tie, not a 2-way.

 

Edit: Well, I guess I took so long writing this up and getting distracted at work that I got seriously beat in posting it.

 

Well crap. I can't believe I missed that!

 

And yes, the correct procedure is to re-rank over and over again until you either come out with a winner, or you get into this specific odd 3-way situation. Only then (this is where UIL messed up in 2006, they did this step first), count the number of re-ranked 1st place votes (this will cause one to drop out) and then start the re-ranking again.

 

So, in this case:

 

Alice - 2, 1, 3, 3, 1 = 10

Floresville - 3, 3, 1, 1, 2 = 10

Calallen - 1, 2, 2, 2, 3 = 10

 

Since they are all tied, we pick the two that have two 1st place votes and then re-rank to get the 4th place of Alice, then pit Floresville and Calallen against eachother again to get:

 

5th - Floresville - 2, 2, 1, 1, 1 = 7

6th - Calallen - 1, 1, 2, 2, 2 = 8

 

The way that UIL messed up in 2006 was this:

 

Duncanville - 3, 2, 1, 3, 1 = 10

Churchill - 2, 1, 2, 2, 2 = 9

Reagan - 1, 3, 3, 1, 3 = 11

 

Instead of looking at the total rank scores right there, they moved immediately to looking at 1st place votes and so pitted Duncanville and Reagan against eachother:

 

3rd - Duncanville - 2, 1, 1, 2, 1 = 7

Reagan - 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, = 8

 

To put Duncanville (errantly) in 3rd, and then put Reagan and Churchill together again:

 

4th Churchill - 2, 1, 1, 2, 1 = 7

5th Reagan - 1, 2, 2, 1, 2 = 8

[BDAZdrummer]

  Donezo said:

I would like to give a shout out to the nine bands who qualified for both 4A State Marching Contest and the state round of the Honor Band Competition. These groups deserve tremendous recognition for displaying excellence both on the marching field and in the concert hall.

 

They are:

Aledo

Alice

Centennial

The Colony

Dickinson

Hendrickson

J. J. Pearce

Poteet

Roma

 

And special recognition should also go to 2005 State Honor Band Friendswood High School who was not eligible for this year's Honor Band Competition, but is still a dominant force in both concert and marching band.

 

 

 

 

Thank You that really means a lot to me

 

 

and good luck to all the bands going to state

there are really some amazing bands going

 

 

 

 

not to sound cocky but every1 going should

definitely keep an eye on Dickinson (@ 1:45)(right before poteet)

bcuz we Will bring the house down

 

and as amazing as poteet is

we're gonna b a hard act to follow

[Tx_Band_Marcher08]

Wow trying not to be cocky kinda just failed. I still love ya kid =]