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  Band_Person said:
Marching bands pre-date football. Military marching bands even pre-date the United States of America.

The military marched on drill fields to the music of marching bands.

Drum lines/fife and drum corps/drum and bugle corps led soldiers into battle along with the Color Guard who carried the national flag and the battalion flag.

 

We still retain the terms "Drum Line" and Color Guard" today.

 

Football began as a pass time for military troops and was played on the drill field.

If anything, football owes it's existence to marching, not the other way around.

 

Ok let me rephrase that (since I am aware of this fact as well): HIGH SCHOOL Marching Bands were created for the purposes of entertaining halftime crowds.

 

The football thing is a new, an very interesting, fact I've just learned. That's pretty cool...thanks for sharing, I should remember that next time I argue against someone who believes that having a marching band at football games is pointless. But it doesn't really prove anything here for the sake of argument.

 

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I think it goes both ways. Bands have influenced corps, and corps have influenced bands. Especially in cases where there have been overlaps of top instructors working in both bands and drum corps. A very specific example being the Cavaliers 95 famous "double-helix" drill move, which was actually used in Spring High School's BOA championship show in 93.

 

I'm aware of this drill maneuver's existence before the Cavaliers 95 show in Spring HS's 93 show....and your argument holds true in this regard (basically for the last 15 years or so of Drill Writing), but this doesn't show that it's always been this way. Again, I'm not saying you're wrong...but I've been under the impression that corps and marching band drill was constructed very differently until marching bands began to adopt the Drum Corps style by hiring their affiliated Drill Writers. Increased involvement in the industry could have spurred some of the Drill Writers to introduce their ideas to Marching Bands before Drum Corps due to various circumstances (maybe getting dropped by a corps and having to make a little money on the side in-between major corps jobs or maybe just a personal preference for one medium over the other).

 

  WestCoastCorpsFan said:
I think Takigan has turned into the bad guy.

 

I don't see it this way. A good number of people agree (maybe not most, but I'd say a good chunk) with *most* of statements. I'm just really vocal and intense about it which makes me seem a little mean. I like arguing about these kinds of things, and I try to be intense, yet civil about it. Only thing I don't like are people who look at my argument and in their reply post this utterly blindsighted reply about how could I possibly think the way I do and I'm obviously wrong and present this weak hearted argument to respond to it--which I proceed to rip apart and silence them in my following post. Not saying that's happened here yet, but yeah....I like debating, I'm quite controversial :).

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lol, sorry guys :rolleyes: ....Ok, take step back *breaths*, ok....

 

So yeah, how about those DCI Rule Proposals; we'll start things off with a big round of applause for George Hopkins who finally succeeded in sucking all the talent out of Drum Corps and replacing us with machines.

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  takigan said:
lol, sorry guys :rolleyes: ....Ok, take step back *breaths*, ok....

 

So yeah, how about those DCI Rule Proposals; we'll start things off with a big round of applause for George Hopkins who finally succeeded in sucking all the talent out of Drum Corps and replacing us with machines.

 

I doubt any corps is going to have more than 1 or two synths at most. And there still has to be talented people to make the machines work. As far as I'm concerned a trumpet is as much as a machine as a synth

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  takigan said:
lol, sorry guys :rolleyes: ....Ok, take step back *breaths*, ok....

 

So yeah, how about those DCI Rule Proposals; we'll start things off with a big round of applause for George Hopkins who finally succeeded in sucking all the talent out of Drum Corps and replacing us with machines.

 

Yeah, there won't be any talent anymore. The drill will now proceed to be easy, all the music will be watered down, and the tempos shall not exceed 120. Darn those electronics.

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  Skippy said:
Yeah, there won't be any talent anymore. The drill will now proceed to be easy, all the music will be watered down, and the tempos shall not exceed 120. Darn those electronics.

 

I can see it now. The synths will begin to "learn" by our actions...and one day take over the drum corps activity. Just like in some lame horror movie

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