Woodwinds in DCI?

[eatmyshorts5]

  treyj said:

I don't know if they should be allowed. Because DCI is a hard sound and harsh and could be hurt by woodwinds. But I do wish they were allowed. I play saxophone and would love the chance to march something like DCI but it won't ever happen :[

 

 

Meh one of my band directors is a saxophone player but he marched euphonium in DCI.

 

If you really wanted to learn a brass instrument.

[bluebellbrass07]

  lhsfluter said:

So you cannot legitimately tell me that I can't do something. I'm too stubborn and that only adds fuel to the fire.

 

You realize you are telling him he can not do something by saying that he can't tell you you can't do something? Wow that was a mouthful

[whitewing09]

Is this still alive? wtf mate

[treblemaker]

  bluebellbrass07 said:

You realize you are telling him he can not do something by saying that he can't tell you you can't do something? Wow that was a mouthful

 

You really made that more complicated than it needed to be. Haha. I guess you have to know me to understand.

[TRUMPet]

just so you know he marched cadets 3 years (my director the sax guy 95-98 i belive). And now he still can play sax better than most as well as baritone. in the stands he took someones horn for a few songs and practically tripled the euph sound.

 

Just another point to throw out there, if you march really well, alot of corps wont care you are a woodwind. I dont think there are many corps who will refuse to work with you and make you better (esp. if you show your willing to put in the effort).

 

you might wanna try creating a DCAI (Drum Corps All Insruments ) since weve already got all ages of drum corps. its the next step, but DCI needs to stay DCI for our brass egos and enthusiast alike.

 

P.S. my director can also play the high c-e range on trumpet and sounds pretty good on the c. and theres this rumor he knows his way around a tuba. And furthermore our head director can play clarinet euph and trumpet fairly well and i'd be willing to bet could be decent on a flute(just a little more proof it can be done and still not be detrimental to your playing (not bashing you just saying its dumb for someone to suggest that learning a new instrument would make you suck at another one)

 

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With this being said... I still wanna play bassoon

i hate double reeds..... first time i tried oboe i blew the reed up in my mouth, still dont know how i did that but it was tramatizing

[airons0678]

DCI has changed so much over the years. The bugles are now brass instruments, synthesizers and other electronic equipment are allowed, and there is no longer a "tick" scoring system. I say ANYTHING goes. Allow the woodwinds. I think that it will happen someday. DCI used to be THE cutting edge that high school bands would look to to copy or emulate (just take a look at some of Live Oak's shows in the 70's and 80's). NOW DCI looks to BOA--and probably vice-versa--on ways to keep the marching arts fresh and--most importantly--RELEVENT! Think of how many NEW musicians you could get interested in corps (note that I purposely took out the words "drum" and "bugle") if you added woodwinds. (Corps could probably accept more members, too!) I am all about innovation. We can stay in the past, but in time it will get old...trust me. DCI would not be where it is today if it stayed in the past.

 

Sincerely,

 

Alan (who used to march Pacific Crest and Spartans)

[TRUMPet]

I think the biggest inhibitor is realy logistical. Woodwind instruments are more delacate, have to have a huge supply of reeds (and half of em end up sucking) and they cant get wet. Most corps dont want to worry about all that and having to repair instruments on the road can be a huge issue if the right parts arent onsite.

 

And they'd also have to higher another staff doubling costs (wich are high enough as of now)

[treblemaker]

  TRUMPet said:

I think the biggest inhibitor is realy logistical. Woodwind instruments are more delacate, have to have a huge supply of reeds (and half of em end up sucking) and they cant get wet. Most corps dont want to worry about all that and having to repair instruments on the road can be a huge issue if the right parts arent onsite.

 

And they'd also have to higher another staff doubling costs (wich are high enough as of now)

 

Instrument repair is not a good argument at all. How often do instruments really get that damaged? Not very often. Brass instruments are "delicate" also. I can't tell you how many times I have seen crushed bells on brass instruments. Accidents happen and they have the same chance of happening to a brass as they do a woodwind.

 

As for the reeds sure some do suck. But that's why you prepare and think ahead. It's not like it's the end of the world. Someone is bound to have an extra. And not all WW have reeds. Flutes don't have to worry about that. :]

[airons0678]

  treblemaker said:

Instrument repair is not a good argument at all. How often do instruments really get that damaged? Not very often. Brass instruments are "delicate" also. I can't tell you how many times I have seen crushed bells on brass instruments. Accidents happen and they have the same chance of happening to a brass as they do a woodwind.

 

As for the reeds sure some do suck. But that's why you prepare and think ahead. It's not like it's the end of the world. Someone is bound to have an extra. And not all WW have reeds. Flutes don't have to worry about that. :]

 

Yeah, and even if there were costly woodwind repairs, think of how that could stimulate the economy (and perhaps DCI's economy, with all the vendors and such at show sites!).

 

-Alan

[BassoonPadwan]

  whitewing09 said:

With this being said... I still wanna play bassoon

 

 

As you should.........

[Nancy08]

  BassoonPadwan said:

As you should.........

 

Amen to that . Bassoon is the best, although I might be a little biased...

[wctuba2010]

do we really want to see something like this??

 

 

 

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[treblemaker]

Yeah. I see it all the time..

[whitewing09]

ugh I hate that sight, parades suck! well I hate marching in them anyway

[takigan]

  wctuba2010 said:

do we really want to see something like this??

 

 

 

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Using those uniforms should be a mortal sin .

[Skippy]

and on top of that, they're all "cowgirling" it.

[Fata1]

Those uniforms should be copyrighted by the Cavaliers or something. They look much better on them.

http://ghs.pasco.k12.fl.us/news/uniforms.html

 

On a side note, did anyone else notice that the snare drummer in the picture is on the wrong foot?

[Xenon]

  Fata1 said:

Those uniforms should be copyrighted by the Cavaliers or something. They look much better on them.

http://ghs.pasco.k12.fl.us/news/uniforms.html

 

On a side note, did anyone else notice that the snare drummer in the picture is on the wrong foot?

 

"In the photo are Drum Major Melody Goodenough and Band Captain Jason Pehonsky."

[treblemaker]

  Fata1 said:

On a side note, did anyone else notice that the snare drummer in the picture is on the wrong foot?

 

You don't see that very often!

[Xenon]

The snare isn't on the wrong foot; everybody else is.

[treblemaker]

  Xenon said:

The snare isn't on the wrong foot; everybody else is.

 

 

OH Duh! How could I have not remembered that!

[HashBrownJM]

  lhsfluter said:

Your argument is very justified except for your first sentence. The attitude that people have when they say "you can't do anything about it" really just "grinds my gears" <-- Thank you Family Guy because I really don't think you can say that and be 100% sure. Maybe I can't do anything right now, but the times are changing. It may not happen anytime soon but there is still a chance it may in the future. So you cannot legitimately tell me that I can't do something. I'm too stubborn and that only adds fuel to the fire.

 

Ok, so let's say we're not 100% sure. If in the future the rule does pass, what if it passes so late that you would have already aged out? That would be too late, and no amount of stubbornness would turn back the clock on you.

 

With the kind of rule proposals being thrown out there, perhaps the theories are true. Mic'ing the pit led to electronic instruments which could lead to woodwinds. Maybe. Or maybe the corps directors who vote on rule proposals are smart enough to not take it there. A rule proposal that would give each marcher another year to march didn't even make it to the second round of voting.

 

  treblemaker said:

Instrument repair is not a good argument at all. How often do instruments really get that damaged? Not very often. Brass instruments are "delicate" also. I can't tell you how many times I have seen crushed bells on brass instruments. Accidents happen and they have the same chance of happening to a brass as they do a woodwind.

 

As for the reeds sure some do suck. But that's why you prepare and think ahead. It's not like it's the end of the world. Someone is bound to have an extra. And not all WW have reeds. Flutes don't have to worry about that. :]

 

We can march in the rain, and we do. Do it with a woodwind. And maybe brass is 'delicate' but I swear it can probably take more abuse than a woodwind can. Less keys, no padding to clean, the list goes on.

[treblemaker]

  HashBrownJM said:

Ok, so let's say we're not 100% sure. If in the future the rule does pass, what if it passes so late that you would have already aged out? That would be too late, and no amount of stubbornness would turn back the clock on you.

 

I may be stubborn but I'm also very selfless. If it happens after I am too old then so be it. But it least it is happening. And that's all that really matters to me.

 

  HashBrownJM said:

With the kind of rule proposals being thrown out there, perhaps the theories are true. Mic'ing the pit led to electronic instruments which could lead to woodwinds. Maybe. Or maybe the corps directors who vote on rule proposals are smart enough to not take it there. A rule proposal that would give each marcher another year to march didn't even make it to the second round of voting.

 

Never say never..

 

 

  HashBrownJM said:

We can march in the rain, and we do. Do it with a woodwind. And maybe brass is 'delicate' but I swear it can probably take more abuse than a woodwind can. Less keys, no padding to clean, the list goes on.

 

We've marched in the rain before. Sure you can endure more rain damage then we can but to an extent it damages your instruments too. It's not like woodwind players haven't been taking care of their instruments for only a day. We know what to do with them and how to take care of them just the same as you. It's not like we are going to go in and be like "Oh darn my spring popped out I guess I'm out for the season guys". Most good musicians can fix their own instruments. I know that I can fix almost anything on my flute minus when someone stomps on it and drags it on 5 yards of concrete because they weren't looking where they were running but that's another story.

 

 

None of these issues you have brought up stops marching band from stopping so why would it ever hold up drum corps?

[Xenon]

And pit amps don't like rain either, but it doesn't stop them.

[rpd]

  Fata1 said:

Those uniforms should be copyrighted by the Cavaliers or something. They look much better on them.

http://ghs.pasco.k12.fl.us/news/uniforms.html

 

On a side note, did anyone else notice that the snare drummer in the picture is on the wrong foot?

 

Cavies Uniform in red..... http://www.taftraiderband.org/albums/2006/enlfr.htm?120

 

Has anyone considered trying to create a circuit, much like DCI, but for marching band? Woodwinds and all.

Edited November 26, 2008 by rpd