2008 TOC

[treyj]

  Donezo said:

I don't know....I'm expecting Coppell to be a lot cleaner than Haltom this early in the season. It will be closer than a Haltom/Berkner show down I think. I'm saying this, of course, without seeing any of these shows.

 

 

we play coppell next thursday

 

im very interested to hear them

[borchnork]

It's so weird to not go to contests this year...

 

Centennial's numbers dropped quite a large deal. They went from 21 flutes to about 12. Some sections grew. I haven't seen them march, so I assumed they're about the same level as last year.

 

I do agree the Timberview should be destroying in contest too. They are top 5 in my view... although I think I didn't put them there in my predictions, I meant to do so. lol.

[AzNtRoMbOnEcHiCk]

TOC is in six days!

i'm stoked.

[morebueno]

Berkner has dropped, Newman Smith added

 

Berkner will go to the Desoto contest, im thinking it was changed because berknerband.com calander shows it being red where it was changed.

Edited September 22, 2008 by morebueno

[morebueno]

  morebueno said:

Berkner has dropped, Newman Smith added

 

Berkner will go to the Desoto contest, im thinking it was changed because berknerband.com calander shows it being red where it was changed.

 

Berkner Homecoming is that night, thats why they are doing desoto instead

[takigan]

Back to the props thing.....

 

Grand National Finals:

 

1. LD Bell - No props

2. Avon - Props

3. Carmel - No props

4. The Woodlands - Props (I guess, if you call strips of fabric with numbers on them "props")

5. Marian Catholic - Props (same story as Woodlands....They had a podium decoration and some random fabric laying on the turf....nothing major)

6. Broken Arrow - No props

7. PCEP - Props

8. SFA - No Props

9. Richland - Props

10. Lawrence Central - No Props

11. Center Grove - Props

12. Harrison - No Props (besides a Flag shield)

 

Props don't win contests, and they don't really affect your placement much either (as you can tell by the even distribution of prop/nonprop bands....almost to the point of perfectly even distribution).

[AzNtRoMbOnEcHiCk]

  morebueno said:

Berkner has dropped, Newman Smith added ...

 

 

you're right about berkner droppin'

but we host the contest.

 

we're already performing in exhibition.

[morebueno]

  takigan said:

Back to the props thing.....

 

Grand National Finals:

 

1. LD Bell - No props

 

You dont consider big cocoons props?

[treyj]

  takigan said:

Back to the props thing.....

 

Grand National Finals:

 

1. LD Bell - No props

2. Avon - Props

3. Carmel - No props

4. The Woodlands - Props (I guess, if you call strips of fabric with numbers on them "props")

5. Marian Catholic - Props (same story as Woodlands....They had a podium decoration and some random fabric laying on the turf....nothing major)

6. Broken Arrow - No props

7. PCEP - Props

8. SFA - No Props

9. Richland - Props

10. Lawrence Central - No Props

11. Center Grove - Props

12. Harrison - No Props (besides a Flag shield)

 

Props don't win contests, and they don't really affect your placement much either (as you can tell by the even distribution of prop/nonprop bands....almost to the point of perfectly even distribution).

 

well a lot of people aren't arguing that props win contests. They're arguing that BOA focuses a lot on overall visual effect more heavily than say UIL. And some band just aren't built to be like that.

Edited September 22, 2008 by treyj

[mbui]

  treyj said:

well a lot of people aren't arguing that props win contests. They're arguing that BOA focuses a lot on overall visual effect more heavily than say UIL. And some band just aren't built to be like that.

It's not just visual effect. BOA's focus is on the entire package and effect of the show----the combination of music AND visual. Shouldn't it be that way? What's wrong with a really darn good designed show?

 

For me, music and visual should be equal in marching band (and drum corps). Music shouldn't be focused more than visual and visual shouldn't be focused more than music.

[takigan]

  morebueno said:

You dont consider big cocoons props?

 

Hmm....not really. I mean one of the other schools (I think it was Lawrence Central) had their colorguard pick up these huge different colored chunks of plywood and wave them around.....I consider that more of an accessory than a prop and the same thing goes for the cocoons imo.

[treyj]

  mbui said:

It's not just visual effect. BOA's focus is on the entire package and effect of the show----the combination of music AND visual. Shouldn't it be that way? What's wrong with a really darn good designed show?

 

For me, music and visual should be equal in marching band (and drum corps). Music shouldn't be focused more than visual and visual shouldn't be focused more than music.

 

 

yeah i understand that and i agree, i just don't exactly agree on how they judge it. UIL or BOA, the judging is both weird.

[radchad]

  mbui said:

It's not just visual effect. BOA's focus is on the entire package and effect of the show----the combination of music AND visual. Shouldn't it be that way? What's wrong with a really darn good designed show?

 

For me, music and visual should be equal in marching band (and drum corps). Music shouldn't be focused more than visual and visual shouldn't be focused more than music.

 

Well put.

[AzNtRoMbOnEcHiCk]

TOC is tomorrow.

 

i'm working up in the press box for the first block of the bands.

 

but i'll be at the stadium from 7:45 AM to 11 PM.

come say hi to me if you see me.

 

i promise that i dont bite.

i'm friendly.

 

good luck to all the bands tomorrow.

[treyj]

really wish i could go!

 

but i gotta go to crowley drumline contest.

 

It will be fun though!

 

 

good luck to everyone!

Edited September 27, 2008 by treyj

[Xenon]

I am planning on getting there around 10:30am. I hope to be running live updates of how things are going throughout the day on the TxBLive Blog at http://live.txbands.com

[radchad]

It's going to be an interesting contest.

 

I expect some surprises.

[AzNtRoMbOnEcHiCk]

new schedule:

 

Burkburnett 11:00

Ranchview 11:15

Birdville 11:30

Cedar Hill 11:45

Centenntial 12:00

 

Lunch Break

 

Guyer 1:30

R.L. Turner 1:45

Timberview 2:00

Thomas Jefferson 2:15

 

Break

 

Coppell 2:45

Grapevine 3:00

Martin 3:15

Haltom 3:30

Sachse 3:45

Creekview 4:00

Mansfield 4:15

Hebron 4:30

Wylie 4:45

 

Exhibition: Newman Smith 5:00

 

 

yet again, good luck bands!

see you guys on the field.

[Donezo]

Do finalists perform in prelims placement order? Because if so......wow. Some HUGE surprises.

[Xenon]

  Donezo said:

Do finalists perform in prelims placement order? Because if so......wow. Some HUGE surprises.

 

No idea, but it does look like it could be possible. Knowing that Sachse was on top, the order of the next 3 is certainly plausible.

[Xenon]

Best Drum Major: Centennial

Best Colorguard: Mansfield

Best Percussion: Haltom

Best GE: Coppell

Best Marching: Haltom

Best Music: Coppell

 

 

1st: Hebron

2nd: Sachse

3rd: Haltom

4th: Coppell

5th: Mansfield

6th: Grapevine

7th: Birdville

8th: Wylie

9th: Timberview

10th: Creekview

[longhornsax]

hebron doesn't win a single caption and yet still wins it all? does this happen often?

 

Congratz to them though!

[Xenon]

  longhornsax said:

hebron doesn't win a single caption and yet still wins it all? does this happen often?

 

Congratz to them though!

 

Both of the top two didn't win a single caption! 1st not winning a single caption happens every once in a while, but both of the top 2 doing it is really amazing.

[thetransfer]

I LOVED Mansfield's show! If they clean it up, it will be awesome.

[Xenon]

  thetransfer said:

I LOVED Mansfield's show! If they clean it up, it will be awesome.

 

I agree, that was one of my favorite shows of the evening, although it was quite dirty. I love all the heart sets that come at you in lots of different ways. And the colorguard was great!

 

If they can clean it up it will have a good shot at doing well at Area B Finals.