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Ok, I have another ignorant question to ask. The music in the end of Reagan's 2005 show, what piece of music is that from? I've heard it somewhere, but can't quite place my finger on it. Any help would be great. Thanks!

 

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  • 11 years later...
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I have no idea how I ended up here...on a topic from 2005....but I read it and found it a bit amusing...and kind of odd...even sad in a way.  Do bands still like this whole hush hush persona?  I don't think Reagan does anymore, but perhaps I am wrong.  

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  On 10/16/2017 at 7:42 PM, LeanderMomma said:

I have no idea how I ended up here...on a topic from 2005....but I read it and found it a bit amusing...and kind of odd...even sad in a way. Do bands still like this whole hush hush persona? I don't think Reagan does anymore, but perhaps I am wrong.

 

Not really. Maybe the full shows, but not the name like this.

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  On 10/16/2017 at 9:12 PM, JC18 said:

Not really. Maybe the full shows, but not the name like this.

 

It sounds like the poor girl that started it all got into some real hot water with her band directors and her section leaders over it.  Craziness!

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For what it's worth 4'33" doesn't really have much to do with silence.  It's actually Incidental Music, where the music itself is the sounds coming from the audience as a result of their reaction to the artistic choice behind not using any notes or rhythms in the piece.  

Restless fidgeting, coughing, silent whispers....in many modern performances there is often even awkward laughter from the audience.  Cage viewed it as his most important work, and considering it can still sell out a hall to this day, it would be hard to argue that...It stirred up controversy, which was likely intentional, since Cage wrote it with the intent that "All sound and silence can be music", and the controversy involves an assault on the idea that pure silence can't be music. 

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  On 10/16/2017 at 11:20 PM, LeanderMomma said:

It sounds like the poor girl that started it all got into some real hot water with her band directors and her section leaders over it. Craziness!

It really is. At the end of the day, it’s entertainment, not classified government secrets.

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  On 10/17/2017 at 2:35 AM, takigan said:

For what it's worth 4'33" doesn't really have much to do with silence. It's actually Incidental Music, where the music itself is the sounds coming from the audience as a result of their reaction to the artistic choice behind not using any notes or rhythms in the piece.

 

Restless fidgeting, coughing, silent whispers....in many modern performances there is often even awkward laughter from the audience. Cage viewed it as his most important work, and considering it can still sell out a hall to this day, it would be hard to argue that...It stirred up controversy, which was likely intentional, since Cage wrote it with the intent that "All sound and silence can be music", and the controversy involves an assault on the idea that pure silence can't be music.

Sounds like that minimalist art exhibit that was just a blank canvas. Not very interesting to most of us. Absence of art, or music in this case, is not worth paying to see, regardless of what kind of statement the "artist" was going for. Just this peasant's 2 cents of course.

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  On 10/17/2017 at 3:11 AM, LeanderMomma said:

 

Sounds like that minimalist art exhibit that was just a blank canvas. Not very interesting to most of us. Absence of art, or music in this case, is not worth paying to see, regardless of what kind of statement the "artist" was going for. Just this peasant's 2 cents of course.

To me, it would be more akin to a blank canvas where anyone could paint anything they wanted on it. Just like in 4'33, it's not about the silence, it's not about the lack of art- it's about the art that exists in ambient, open spaces, everywhere. 4'33 isn't just a study of silence, it's a 4.5 minute long sonic landscape that forces us to consider everything around us as art and music.
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  On 10/17/2017 at 3:11 AM, LeanderMomma said:

 

Sounds like that minimalist art exhibit that was just a blank canvas. Not very interesting to most of us. Absence of art, or music in this case, is not worth paying to see, regardless of what kind of statement the "artist" was going for. Just this peasant's 2 cents of course.

Preach it. I don't want to insult anyones effort, but I have no appreciation for that kind of stuff. There's plenty of deep and meaningful art that is also constructed intricately and with effort.

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  On 10/17/2017 at 4:41 AM, meursault said:

To me, it would be more akin to a blank canvas where anyone could paint anything they wanted on it. Just like in 4'33, it's not about the silence, it's not about the lack of art- it's about the art that exists in ambient, open spaces, everywhere. 4'33 isn't just a study of silence, it's a 4.5 minute long sonic landscape that forces us to consider everything around us as art and music.

I do get what Cage was trying to accomplish with his "piece of music" and I even appreciate the brilliance in the simplicity of it. I'm just saying that I would not want to go to a concert, pay my hard earned money for a ticket, and not be treated to the full ensemble sound of an amazing orchestra.

 

Wow, I got off track with this one. :D What I was originally referring to was how much trouble the Reagan student got into for revealing the name of the Reagan show that year so long ago. Hopefully her directors and section forgave her quickly and moved on!

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