Dynasty Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 This is the interpretation from my ears. If you hear something different, let me know. Starting from the end of the "backwardsness": Dan Potter: "Which one is better Scott McCormick? UIL or BOA? Lone Star States have a lot of bands. Legacy Legacy High School 2008." Woman: "So hot" (???) Quote
future andy Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 you know, i go to legacy and i don't even know what is actually said Quote
Dynasty Posted October 6, 2008 Author Posted October 6, 2008 Perhaps you could ask around and see how close I was :-) Quote
Chris Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Hahahahaha. It's such a mystery at our school. I want to know what it really says. Quote
takigan Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 A sound sample that is played in reverse sounds different than if you were to take a scripted line and speak it backwards (sdrawkcab would sound like dseh-reh-auw-ukkaeb instead of straw-cab). My question is, is this a recording that's played backward and sounds like the former, is it literally being spoken like the former by having listened to a backwards playing recording, or is it literally read as it should be pronounced lingually and sound like the latter? Quote
Xenon Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 The voice-over was recorded forward and then physically reversed. Quote
MansfieldLegacyBandDad Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Xenon said: The voice-over was recorded forward and then physically reversed. Yep! Quote
Clarinot Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 I was hoping it was a subliminal message promoting TxBands. Oh well... wishful thinking I guess. Quote
takigan Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Xenon said: The voice-over was recorded forward and then physically reversed. And yet again I must say it.....is this not illegal? Since you can't do something like this "live" the sample is prerecorded. Prerecorded human voice and spoken word is illegal, correct? Quote
treyj Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 takigan said: And yet again I must say it.....is this not illegal? Since you can't do something like this "live" the sample is prerecorded. Prerecorded human voice and spoken word is illegal, correct? i thought so but apparently not? maybe a loophole? haha Quote
Dynasty Posted October 6, 2008 Author Posted October 6, 2008 I agree with Clarinot. We need to record "Visit TxBands.com and donate" and then play it backwards. Quote
Xenon Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 takigan said: And yet again I must say it.....is this not illegal? Since you can't do something like this "live" the sample is prerecorded. Prerecorded human voice and spoken word is illegal, correct? I was actually wondering the same thing, but it would actually only be illegal in UIL (if it is), not BOA as far as I can tell. There is a lot of precedence for pre-recorded voice-overs in BOA. Worst case for UIL, they just don't use the recordings. But, I believe (I would need to get confirmation) that since it is not a melodic/rhythmic recording, it is allowed under both BOA and UIL as long as it is initiated by a student. My personal feelings? Forward speak should be required to be carried out live. The backwards speak is a sound effect like a bird chirping and can be "played". Quote
Danpod Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Via the BOA Adjudication Handbook: Useful notes: For Performance purposes, the definition of music shall be the organization of sound through time. Everything else, then, is a sound effect, be it spoken text, the sound of twisting metal, falling rain or the crumpling of cellophane. If what you want to play electronically has elements of melody, harmony or rhythm, it must be performed live. If may not be pre- recorded or sequenced for playback during the Performance, even if the initiation of the recording playback or triggering of the sequence is done by a student at the time of the Performance. A student may play synthesized sounds live and in real time, or initiate the playback or trigger the sequence of any non-music sound as part, or all, of a show or show segment. Voice-overs, whether they are backwards, forwards, sideways, or slantways, are considers sound effects. Therefore, they can be patched through one key on a synth or iPod. The students hits the key, the voice-over plays, and it is perfectly legal in the BOA system. There used to be plenty of controversy in BOA over sound effect/voice-over use. I'm glad the rule is more clearly defined. Via the UIL Constitution: A. All electronically produced music including narration and sound effects must be performed live and in real time by eligible students. B. Pre-recorded music, instrumental or vocal, may not be used. C. The placement of electronic units must comply with the 5-minute set up and 2- minute tear down limitations. UIL says no to prerecorded voice-overs, according to those guidelines. Don't use balloons either. Quote
Montoya Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Danpod said: Via the BOA Adjudication Handbook: Useful notes: For Performance purposes, the definition of music shall be the organization of sound through time. Everything else, then, is a sound effect, be it spoken text, the sound of twisting metal, falling rain or the crumpling of cellophane. If what you want to play electronically has elements of melody, harmony or rhythm, it must be performed live. If may not be pre- recorded or sequenced for playback during the Performance, even if the initiation of the recording playback or triggering of the sequence is done by a student at the time of the Performance. A student may play synthesized sounds live and in real time, or initiate the playback or trigger the sequence of any non-music sound as part, or all, of a show or show segment. Voice-overs, whether they are backwards, forwards, sideways, or slantways, are considers sound effects. Therefore, they can be patched through one key on a synth or iPod. The students hits the key, the voice-over plays, and it is perfectly legal in the BOA system. There used to be plenty of controversy in BOA over sound effect/voice-over use. I'm glad the rule is more clearly defined. Via the UIL Constitution: A. All electronically produced music including narration and sound effects must be performed live and in real time by eligible students. B. Pre-recorded music, instrumental or vocal, may not be used. C. The placement of electronic units must comply with the 5-minute set up and 2- minute tear down limitations. UIL says no to prerecorded voice-overs, according to those guidelines. Don't use balloons either. Exactly. Tarpon Springs couldn't do any other their shows at UIL. I think Connally had to remove their narration for UIL when they went to GN's. But now that I think about it... what about RR's use of the "talon's" quote at UIL? We didn't have a problem with it then. Quote
mnkyman663 Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 So still no word on the actual words they're saying? You've piqued my interest Quote
CPtenor Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Hmm... I haven't even seen the show this year... anyone have a vid? Quote
Mellos09 Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 That year that we went to GN we did have to take out the voice overs during our uil performance. But with BOA it's ok other wise that year our show ouldn't have worked. Quote
treyj Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 CPtenor said: Hmm... I haven't even seen the show this year... anyone have a vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duhifmb1hDM Quote
Xenon Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Attached to this post are two mp3 files. They are both of the same section of Legacy's show; one is played Forwards and the other is played Backwards. Quote
treyj Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Xenon said: Attached to this post are two mp3 files. They are both of the same section of Legacy's show; one is played Forwards and the other is played Backwards. hahahah that is really funny Quote
itsstephenyo Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Haha, the forwards clip just sounds like they're speaking German. And what does the female say at the end? Quote
Xenon Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 itsstephenyo said: And what does the female say at the end? In both clips, from the female voice you first hear "backwards" then whatever backwards sounds like being played backwards. But it sounds like the truly reversed "backwards" (the 2nd time in the Forwards clip, and the 1st time in the Reversed clip) is played faster. Quote
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