[Major Event] UIL State Contest

[treblemaker]

  borchnork said:

haha, are we making this an Olympic sport now?

 

I heard that I think it was Reagan had a massive fall during prelims at state? this true?

 

Reagan didn't make state this year...

[TXBandNerd07]

  borchnork said:

haha, are we making this an Olympic sport now?

 

I heard that I think it was Reagan had a massive fall during prelims at state? this true?

 

this yrs?? that'd be hard to imagine since they werent at state lol

[borchnork]

  treblemaker said:

Reagan didn't make state this year...

 

I don't remember who it was then... I just remember hearing about it. I'm pretty sure it was a band that I had placed in Finals on my predictions...

 

any ideas?

[Danpod]

  treblemaker said:

Rain + Grass = AWESOME FALLS!!!

 

Wouldn't know.....Gah!!!

[Steeldrum]

Expanding on the echoing dome topic...the dome is a great place for these marching events (BOA, UIL, DCI, etc.). No matter the weather outside the temperature is always great indoors, the seats are close to the action and the city is a great place to visit.

 

But given the number of marching events there, as well other big arena concerts they probably host, you'd think that they'd invest some money to bring in a sound engineer to dampen the echo. I was studying it a bit, if they placed long felt curtains from the rafters to the lower seats on the visitor side, basically creating a backdrop for the field it would probably help a bunch. Maybe a few egg crate panels in the ceilings too. For DCI they do put a few curtains on the visitor side but I don't think they are large or thick enough to make much impact.

 

UIL, BOA and DCI should create a joint task force to approach the city about this.

[eatmyshorts5]

  borchnork said:

So I wasn't the only one who was curious about the sound? Like I was thinking that it was the fact that the brass was on the other side of the field from me, but I guess not.

 

I LOVED Bell's show though. ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT! I just wish I had been able to see all 5 movements.

 

I was only able to see Hebron and Bell at Finals, but I was impressed with both. From what I remember of Marcus, I enjoyed their show, and I am happy to see the results turn out the way they did. I feel like a I'm stuck between a rock in a hard place with those two shows though, because I loved both for separate aspects.

 

 

 

ANDDDD... Just curious.... What'd everybody think of the Green Brigade???

Dude you guys were tight, the UNT band and indoor drumline was so awesome. And we got similar uniforms as well

[treblemaker]

  borchnork said:

I don't remember who it was then... I just remember hearing about it. I'm pretty sure it was a band that I had placed in Finals on my predictions...

 

any ideas?

 

 

I don't remember seeing anybody fall at State. Maybe you are thinking about CP people falling at SA Finals?

[Xenon]

  Steeldrum said:

Expanding on the echoing dome topic...the dome is a great place for these marching events (BOA, UIL, DCI, etc.). No matter the weather outside the temperature is always great indoors, the seats are close to the action and the city is a great place to visit.

 

But given the number of marching events there, as well other big arena concerts they probably host, you'd think that they'd invest some money to bring in a sound engineer to dampen the echo. I was studying it a bit, if they placed long felt curtains from the rafters to the lower seats on the visitor side, basically creating a backdrop for the field it would probably help a bunch. Maybe a few egg crate panels in the ceilings too. For DCI they do put a few curtains on the visitor side but I don't think they are large or thick enough to make much impact.

 

UIL, BOA and DCI should create a joint task force to approach the city about this.

 

They've had curtains up just like you describe in a few previous years (not too many though) and also the back stands out instead of being just a flat sound reflecting wall.

[drummerjake]

  treblemaker said:

I don't remember seeing anybody fall at State. Maybe you are thinking about CP people falling at SA Finals?

A tuba player took a hard fall in the band right after us i think, it might have been 2 bands after us, it wasnt westlake thats for sure.

[phobo811]

"Noticed the Bell director directing from the top of the lower deck....was that just emotion or was the band following him? Is that legal?"

 

{quote/}

 

yes, it apparently is legal. marcus has band directors conducting on the field for their shows every year.

[CoppellDrumline]

Marcus's show was amazing. For the arguement of not using props, I think that using props is fine so long as it dosen't take away from the band. Marcus does this perfectly. I'm sure L.D. Bell's show was incredible but I never got to see it. I have to say that Cedar Park's show was impressive. I'm not an expert or anything but I was drawn in during the entire show that Cedar Park had. and cedar park's drums...NICE!!! freakin clean

[bluebellbrass07]

  titancoaster said:

Bell is another story, while I am a huge bell fan, they just did not trump Marcus' sound. Bell had a much better visual program imo, but their music lacked the defined sound that Marcus had.

 

I have to respectfully disagree with you here. All bias aside, as far as I'm concerned Bell this year is the best sounding band I have ever heard. Personal tastes I guess. I think Bell sounds morel like a marching band where as Marcus sounds more like a concert band

[bluebellbrass07]

  treblemaker said:

You make that look easy, but you left out one important part...

 

Care to enlighten me?

[titancoaster]

^ I agree with you that this is an amazing year musically for bell, but Marcus does sound like a concert band, which is what i believe a marching band should be. To each his own I guess.

[bluebellbrass07]

  titancoaster said:

^ I agree with you that this is an amazing year musically for bell, but Marcus does sound like a concert band, which is what i believe a marching band should be. To each his own I guess.

 

I definitely think there's two different approaches to the way they sound. I enjoy either way, just prefer one over the other! I guess after marching drum corps I just think that marching bands should try to emulate that sound, and I think Bell was closer to that end of the spectrum. Cedar park too

 

 

 

[borchnork]

  eatmyshorts5 said:

And we got similar uniforms as well

 

I had like 10 different kids come up to me congratulating my band on making finals... I was like "Wtf!?" Then I realized both Cedar Park and UNT have green and black uniforms....

[PrideOfPearland]

Haha No. State...outside...NEVER

 

5A State. Been there. Done that.

Never hold a major competition outside EVER.

 

 

It was cold. Pouring Rain. AWFUL. there were no lines on the field practically half way through it. and so many people go hurt from the mud, it was ridiculous.

 

 

dam i'm old..

[Eiles]

This is definitely off-topic but I just wanted to put out there that in general on these boards some Cedar Park kids aren't exactly representing themselves or their band well at all. I'm from Cedar Park as well but the people talking about other bands negatively in any way needs to stop, and then when the original poster comes back and apologizes for saying they were wrong in the first place has happened often enough. Instead of going to a forum to rant about something that can't be changed do something more productive with your time.

[JPeg16]

  Jikajazz said:

so... yes to being seventeen then?

 

i never said anyone was complaining about the fact that bell came in second, i said that people only began complaining about the system when bell, the perennial favorite to win, stopped winning. i'm pointing out a suspicious correlation. and of course, i agree with the general sentiment, because there is obviously something squirrelly about the system, but that doesn't make it any less distasteful considering the circumstances.

 

regardless, there is a difference between saying "the system needs to be changed," and saying, " the system needs to be changed, [band] did not deserve to win."

 

 

You're continually ignoring what they're saying and just reading what you want to read. You want to believe that everyone is complaining because Bell did not win. I, personally, see more complaints about Duncanville's 1st and 10th place vote than I do about Bell not winning.

[bluebellbrass07]

Okay so its 12:15 here, I have class at 8 in the morning. This has pretty much gone on for way to long. People are going to come to this thread and want to read about UIL state finals, not here three people bickering at each other. So since I'm really sick of this argument I'm just going to delete the annoying bickering coming from all 3 sides.

 

If you would like to continue this uh..."discussion" please send me a private message

 

 

 

[pokerface]

  Jikajazz said:

so... yes to being seventeen then?

 

i never said anyone was complaining about the fact that bell came in second, i said that people only began complaining about the system when bell, the perennial favorite to win, stopped winning. i'm pointing out a suspicious correlation. and of course, i agree with the general sentiment, because there is obviously something squirrelly about the system, but that doesn't make it any less distasteful considering the circumstances.

 

regardless, there is a difference between saying "the system needs to be changed," and saying, " the system needs to be changed, [band] did not deserve to win."

 

This is where you are wrong. If you were older, and were around longer, you would know there were far more complaints the year that Bell won in 2004 than there are this year. Look at the scoring that year, look at it in 2002, look at it in 2000. Consistently inconsistent. Your statement that it only started when Bell started losing is bogus and you need to do your homework and figure this stuff out. I'm glad you think i'm seventeen though, shows just how little you actually know.

Edited November 6, 2008 by pokerface

[Jikajazz]

  pokerface said:

This is where you are wrong. If you were older, and were around longer, you would know there were far more complaints the year that Bell won in 2004 than there are this year. Look at the scoring that year, look at it in 2002, look at it in 2000. Consistently inconsistent. Your statement that it only started when Bell started losing is bogus and you need to do your homework and figure this stuff out.

 

i'm willing to grant that it was just as inconsistent. i very much doubt there was as much of an uproar. but let's go ahead and assume that state 2004 was the MOST controversial marching event in all of history. that doesn't validate some of the distasteful stuff that i have seen thrown around in my time, and i bet before my time as well. that's my entire argument. i agree with most of what's been said. that still doesn't mean it's any less classless to state it in some of the ways that it has been stated.

 

perhaps i'm overreacting though. people will do what they want to do, i suppose

[TXBandNerd07]

  Jikajazz said:

i'm willing to grant that it was just as inconsistent. i very much doubt there was as much of an uproar. but let's go ahead and assume that state 2004 was the MOST controversial marching event in all of history. that doesn't validate some of the distasteful stuff that i have seen thrown around in my time, and i bet before my time as well. that's my entire argument. i agree with most of what's been said. that still doesn't mean it's any less classless to state it in some of the ways that it has been stated.

 

perhaps i'm overreacting though. people will do what they want to do, i suppose

 

 

ok lets assume for just a second what you think is true.but here's a lil fun fact: 2004 bell won everything they won but there was controversy when we won state. THEN,get this, THEN bell lost EVERYTHING in 2005.people didnt think the boa or uil systems needed a change then. point being, bell can lose and people dont always complain. SO back to the state contest.yes people are upset bell didnt win(but its not a controversy).have you looked at the scores? people arent complaining that much about bell winning. and i've read the forums that are pertaining to the state contest. they're not happy with the inconsistancies of the judging. they're all over the place. and this isnt the first time that uil has been inconsistant. its not about bell winning.

 

and btw pokerface isnt 17.

[Jikajazz]

  TXBandNerd07 said:

ok lets assume for just a second what you think is true.but here's a lil fun fact: 2004 bell won everything they won but there was controversy when we won state. THEN,get this, THEN bell lost EVERYTHING in 2005.people didnt think the boa or uil systems needed a change then. point being, bell can lose and people dont always complain. SO back to the state contest.yes people are upset bell didnt win(but its not a controversy).have you looked at the scores? people arent complaining that much about bell winning. and i've read the forums that are pertaining to the state contest. they're not happy with the inconsistancies of the judging. they're all over the place. and this isnt the first time that uil has been inconsistant. its not about bell winning.

 

and btw pokerface isnt 17.

 

  Jikajazz said:

i'm willing to grant that it was just as inconsistent. i very much doubt there was as much of an uproar. but let's go ahead and assume that state 2004 was the MOST controversial marching event in all of history. that doesn't validate some of the distasteful stuff that i have seen thrown around in my time, and i bet before my time as well. that's my entire argument. i agree with most of what's been said. that still doesn't mean it's any less classless to state it in some of the ways that it has been stated.

 

perhaps i'm overreacting though. people will do what they want to do, i suppose

 

and again, i never said pokerface was 17. both times i've said anything about it, it was in the form of a question. what amuses me the most about it is that he has never provided an answer, and instead lets other former bell kids inform me, i assume in an attempt to make me feel dumb for not already knowing who he is. sorry to disappoint you guys, turns out i'm not another one of your former band mates D:

[bluebellbrass07]

  Jikajazz said:

and again, i never said pokerface was 17. both times i've said anything about it, it was in the form of a question. what amuses me the most about it is that he has never provided an answer, and instead lets other former bell kids inform me, i assume in an attempt to make me feel dumb for not already knowing who he is. sorry to disappoint you guys, turns out i'm not another one of your former band mates D:

 

"What are you 17?"

 

Asking something sarcastically if they are 17 is the same as calling someone 17...

 

And he didn't go to belll. I just happen to know him.

 

Can we get over this and move along please?