2009 UIL State

[agnt]

my congrats to everyone who made finals. Its nice to see newcomers like Wakeland doing so well. Fine Shows through out the whole entire day.

[Danpod]

I went ahead and deleted a post or two. We don't need any trouble.

[I MARCH]

what band was it that had a long baritone solo? it blew me away and now i can't remember the name of the band

[Fata1]

  I MARCH said:

what band was it that had a long baritone solo? it blew me away and now i can't remember the name of the band

Dripping Springs had an amazing baritone solo.

[littlebig]

  longhorn2190 said:

no offense, but military bands just aren't as interesting to watch as corps style :/

though don't get me wrong, I'm sure they're great at what they do!

 

You will always be ale to count on Poteet for the military style marching to be around. I don't see them changing what they do. It may not be a "showy" as BOA style, but I find that style full of so much more energy and drive. BOA almost puts me to sleep, but I do appreciate the work of all high school bands.

[Xenon]

  littlebig said:

You will always be ale to count on Poteet for the military style marching to be around. I don't see them changing what they do. It may not be a "showy" as BOA style, but I find that style full of so much more energy and drive. BOA almost puts me to sleep, but I do appreciate the work of all high school bands.

 

???????

 

Poteet is not Military style, they are Corps style.

 

Kingwood is Military:

Texas A&M is Military:

 

BTW, I am blessed to have seen that 1998 Kingwood performance live at State my senior year. The first time I had seen an extremely good military band. The move that stuck out in my head the most was the double chevron that starts around 5 minutes in.

[RWood]

It was announced at the football game Friday that starting next year Cedar Park will move to 4-A. If that's the case two years from now should be interesting with Cedar Park and a full power Vandergrift going head to head with everyone.

Edited November 8, 2009 by RWood

[Xenon]

  RWood said:

It was announced at the football game Friday that starting next year Cedar Park will move to 4-A. If that's the case two years from now should be interesting with Cedar Park and a full power Vandergriff going head to head with everyone.

 

Vandergrift, not Vandergriff.

 

And Vista Ridge should be moving down to 4A next year too.

[Donezo]

  littlebig said:

You will always be ale to count on Poteet for the military style marching to be around. I don't see them changing what they do. It may not be a "showy" as BOA style, but I find that style full of so much more energy and drive. BOA almost puts me to sleep, but I do appreciate the work of all high school bands.

 

There is pretty much nothing military about Poteet. They're about as classic drum corps-style as you can get.

 

And lord help us all if Cedar Park is really moving down. They'll probably be as unbeatable as Richland was in '03.

Edited November 8, 2009 by Donezo

[Xenon]

  Donezo said:

There is pretty much nothing military about Poteet. They're about as classic drum corps-style as you can get.

 

And lord help us all if Cedar Park is really moving down. They'll probably be as unbeatable as Richland was in '03.

 

Oh yeah, and Richland is likely moving down to 4A as well. 4A State will be an absolute bloodbath in 2 years.

[Donezo]

LMAO wow. Let's just move all the old 4A powerhouses back down while we're at it. Coppell, Keller, Hebron, Dickinson, Colleville Heritage, Connally, Georgetown, Grapevine, Leander, Fossil Ridge, Wylie, Lopez, New Braunfels, Belton, Allen (though that would be beyond impossible.) That would be epic.

[Basefiveftw]

  Xenon said:

Vandergrift, not Vandergriff.

 

And Vista Ridge should be moving down to 4A next year too.

 

 

Didn't Vista Ridge just move UP to 5A a year ago...?

[Danpod]

  littlebig said:

You will always be ale to count on Poteet for the military style marching to be around. I don't see them changing what they do. It may not be a "showy" as BOA style, but I find that style full of so much more energy and drive. BOA almost puts me to sleep, but I do appreciate the work of all high school bands.

 

Twix has too much coconut.

[takigan]

  Donezo said:

LMAO wow. Let's just move all the old 4A powerhouses back down while we're at it. Coppell, Keller, Hebron, Dickinson, Colleville Heritage, Connally, Georgetown, Grapevine, Leander, Fossil Ridge, Wylie, Lopez, New Braunfels, Belton, Allen (though that would be beyond impossible.) That would be epic.

 

Georgetown will likely move down once their new High School completes its second phase of construction (it's incomplete form is currently serving as a Ninth Grade campus). Georgetown's 9-12 enrollment in '03-'04 (my senior year of HS) was something like 2300, now it's about 2750-2800~. If the campus's split sometime in the next couple years, they'll probably have 2 campus of roughly 1400-1800 students each (solid sized 4As).

 

The completion date for phase 2 of East View HS (Gtown's 2nd HS) is currently unannounced.

[titancoaster]

Oh and Connally is more than likely going to move down to 4A as well (we barely squeeked in the 5A side of the line two years ago). Area D is going to be completely brutal in two years, with 6 previous state finalists, Dripping Springs, Connally, Hendrickson, Vista Ridge, Cedar Park, and Hays. Then you have schools like Vandergrift and Steele which are young and can make a huge splash with two more years of building.

[JagDad09]

  RWood said:

It was announced at the football game Friday that starting next year Cedar Park will move to 4-A. If that's the case two years from now should be interesting with Cedar Park and a full power Vandergrift going head to head with everyone.

lol

 

NOBODY outside the Realignment Committee knows who will be 5A or 4A next year. heck, even the people on that committee don't really know for certain because they haven't decided which applications to "play up" they are going to approve.

 

All of this "the AD said..." or "I know someone that said..." stuff is b.s. yes, one can make educated guesses. Legacy turned in 2379 on Snapshot Day and thus almost certainly will be 5A. However, until 2/1/10, nothing is for certain.

Edited November 9, 2009 by JagDad09

[Xenon]

Absolutely. Nothing is certain, but having the numbers that the schools turned in allows us to make some good educated guesses (albeit without the play up petitions). On the play up topic, though, the UIL has approved an amendment for next school year allowing the music organization of a school to remain in the originally slated classification even if the rest of the school "plays up". So, even if Football plays in 5A, the band can still compete in 4A.

[JagDad09]

No kidding? I wasn't aware of that. Does the petition to "stay down" have to be turned in the same time as the petition to "play up"?

 

Also, word from people on the committee is that they are going to be real hard about granting petitions to play up. they think the only ones they'll even consider are the Eagle Pass and Laredo schools (extreme travel), Cy Ranch (turned in 1997 and has asked up via the 8 team district rule).

 

Per some other websites, if those are the only approved "opt ups" the smallest 5A school will be Smithson Valley at 2052 - largest 4A Granbury at 2046.5

[titancoaster]

^how do you have half a student?

[Xenon]

  titancoaster said:

^how do you have half a student?

 

The enrollment numbers for this purpose are based on the number of students in the school for 9th-12th grades. Some schools (like LD Bell) are only 10th-12th, so to equalize the numbers they estimate the number of 9th grade students through some sort of averaging process. This process sometimes creates non-whole numbers.

[Danpod]

  titancoaster said:

^how do you have half a student?

 

You need two things:

1. A chainsaw.

2. A friend who can keep a secret.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about having the music organization and other organizations in the same school compete in different conferences. This is something that is quite common in college sports. For example, the Georgetown basketball team competes in the Big East Conference, while their football team competes in the Patriot League as an FCS team. Granted, the university added football back into their athletics' department a few years ago, but you can see that the new little rule that UIL added is not so uncommon.

[Xenon]

  JagDad09 said:

No kidding? I wasn't aware of that. Does the petition to "stay down" have to be turned in the same time as the petition to "play up"?

 

Also, word from people on the committee is that they are going to be real hard about granting petitions to play up. they think the only ones they'll even consider are the Eagle Pass and Laredo schools (extreme travel), Cy Ranch (turned in 1997 and has asked up via the 8 team district rule).

 

Per some other websites, if those are the only approved "opt ups" the smallest 5A school will be Smithson Valley at 2052 - largest 4A Granbury at 2046.5

 

I read about it on TYB, but I can't find the tree of posts there that contained that information.

[longhornsax]

The thought of a 4A Cedar Park truly is frightening. I know nothing is for sure in marching band, but I really can't see many, if any 4A bands competing with that. 4A area D may just as well be just as interesting as 5A area D.

[auburnmw1]

What are the largest 4A bands in texas?

[takigan]

Well obviously Granbury is pretty much the biggest. I think Denton Guyer is still 4A and they have like 2040. The technical cutoff is something like 2050 (or is it 2070?).

 

EDIT: Oh, literally "BAND" sizes. That's a bit tough to keep track of since there's no central authority that keeps track of that info.