Capital City Marching Contest Results - Interesting

[MaverickBand15]

I only have the class AAAA (5A Bands) results:

The scores were out of 1000 but i am just gonna consolidate them out of 100.

What does this say about BOA Houston next weekend?

 

FINAL RESULTS:

1. Round Rock - 90.9

2. Bowie - 90.3

3. McNeil - 90.0

4. Cedar Park - 89.5

5. Westwood - 85.4

6. Lehman - 80.8

 

Here is how each category broke down:

 

Music Score (out of 35):

1. Cedar Park - 34.5

2. Bowie - 34.2

3. McNeil - 34.1

4. Round Rock - 34.0

5. Westwood - 33.0

6. Lehman - 32.1

 

Percussion Score (out of 20):

1. Round Rock - 17.8

2. Cedar Park - 17.5

3. McNeil - 17.2

4. Bowie - 16.7

5. Westwood - 16.5

6. Lehman - 14.7

 

Visual/Marching Score (Out of 30)

1. Cedar Park - 29.1

2. Bowie - 28.6

3. McNeil - 28.2

4. Round Rock - 27.9

5. Westwood - 27.7

6. Lehman - 26.0

 

Color guard Score (out of 15)

1. Round Rock - 11.2

2. Bowie - 10.8

3. McNeil - 10.5

4. Cedar Park - 8.4

5. Westwood - 8.2

6. Lehman - 8.0

[jmj]

This is very interesting. Despite the final results, Cedar Park and Bowie went 1-2 in both Music and Visual. It's interesting that if they had added the ordinals instead of adding the raw scores, Cedar Park would have been first with a total of 8 (1+2+1+4) and Bowie and Round Rock would have tied for 2nd with a total of 10. It appears to be the quite low Color Guard score that really kept Cedar Park from ranking higher. I am just thrilled that so many of our area schools are putting on such quality shows this early in the season! I know that McNeil and Cedar Park, along with Leander and Vandegrift will represent Central Texas very well next week at BOA at The Woodlands. Good luck to you all!

[Ihatecapes]

Apparently colorguard was a 5th of the score. But it'll be a whole 'nother contest at BOA, and since thats what our show was made for anyways, I think some people will be surprised at us for sure.

 

Can't wait to see Woodlands/SFA's show!

Edited October 7, 2010 by Ihatecapes

[MaverickBand15]

Watching the shows....Cedar Park was def the best Musically, Round Rock was a very visually pleasing show, and McNeil was the crowd favorite...i think McNeil and Cedar Park will both be forces to be reckoned with at BOA Houston. I do have to say thought that Round Rock spends most of their show doing Karate moves with Synthesizer playing instead of actually playing music which would explain their lower music score. WHILE CP/Bowie/McNeil played almost the entire time...

Edited October 3, 2010 by MaverickBand15

[mellopwn1]

  MaverickBand15 said:

I only have the class AAAA (5A Bands) results:

The scores were out of 1000 but i am just gonna consolidate them out of 100.

What does this say about BOA Houston next weekend?

 

FINAL RESULTS:

1. Round Rock - 90.9

2. Bowie - 90.3

3. McNeil - 90.0

4. Cedar Park - 89.5

5. Westwood - 85.4

6. Lehman - 80.8

 

Here is how each category broke down:

 

Music Score (out of 35):

1. Cedar Park - 34.5

2. Bowie - 34.2

3. McNeil - 34.1

4. Round Rock - 34.0

5. Westwood - 33.0

6. Lehman - 32.1

 

Percussion Score (out of 20):

1. Round Rock - 17.8

2. Cedar Park - 17.5

3. McNeil - 17.2

4. Bowie - 16.7

5. Westwood - 16.5

6. Lehman - 14.7

 

Visual/Marching Score (Out of 30)

1. Cedar Park - 29.1

2. Bowie - 28.6

3. McNeil - 28.2

4. Round Rock - 27.9

5. Westwood - 27.7

6. Lehman - 26.0

 

Color guard Score (out of 15)

1. Round Rock - 11.2

2. Bowie - 10.8

3. McNeil - 10.5

4. Cedar Park - 8.4

5. Westwood - 8.2

6. Lehman - 8.0

 

Round Rock EVER outplacing Bowie or Cedar Park is really odd. As others have said, I think think this only happened because of the unorthodox scoring system. Cedar Park definitely doesn't have the best guard....haha. I don't think this means anything for next week though. They will for sure have a top 5 finish, most likely a top 3. They have some great music lined up (althoughthe ending to their first movement is so....awkward.) and definitely have the chops to play it. The only thing that might hold them back in the future might be their rather safe and uninspired drill. So...many....blocks...It's really clean though!

[mrwood69]

Edited October 13, 2010 by mrwood69

[mrwood69]

Edited October 13, 2010 by mrwood69

[mellopwn1]

If I am not mistaken, 5 points of BOA Music captions count towards percussion. Jus' sayin'. I would also venture to say that color guard either directly or indirectly is factored into visual and visual GE, too. They are called an auxiliary for a reason. They are meant to enhance the perforance of the band but neither are or should be required under BOA. I barely pay attention to guards when watching a performance, unless they are truly outstanding. That's my paradigm though, and I guess others might have their own.

 

  mrwood69 said:

The scoring system isn't unorthodox in application, only in sight. Every number is just a decimal to the right. Personally, I agree with the scoring categories Westlake and Capital City have because it actually involves two important sections of the marching band. I don't know why UIL and BOA does not score percussion and colorguard, because as I said before, they are very different and important parts of the band that provide many different perspectives of the show and add a lot of effect. I personally believe this is so because most do not expect to have a high school percussion section and colorguard to be standout unless the band itself is standout, otherwise I do not see the point of the percussion and colorguard members even attending Region, Area and State or any BOA contest. I think a lot of other bands themselves are against that is because they're scared another group will beat them out because of those caption scores, but honestly I say "So what? They're a part of the band too." I wish UIL and BOA would include those caption scores because it would force more group to enchance those programs in those areas, and create even better entire productions.

Edited October 3, 2010 by mellopwn1

[MaverickBand15]

  mrwood69 said:

Let's not be a little biased here, McNeil band member. Two things I'd like to address is that there's no way to tell who was the "crowd favorite" and Round Rock's playing being nonexistent. For approximately 11 measures in Round Rock's first mvt, the band does not play. For approximately 11 measures of the second mvt, the band does not play. The third mvt is the percussion feature, and for the 4th mvt, only 4 measures does the band not play. The band is almost always playing, it simply does not seem so from your perspective because Round Rock's ballad is mostly very soft, and immediately after is an entire mvt devoted to a percussion feature. Aside from the second mvt, the show is very high energy, fast paced playing and marching (as it always is w/ RR), which from the past 4 years of me being a band member, I've noticed does not occur simultaneouly at the same frequency with most other bands (fast playing and marching that is). Our lower music score simply indicates the quality of sound our band is producing, which is usually our weakest area, however we will be working fervently on that, along with our marching. Percussion did not have a good run at Cap City, however we are particularly proud of our colorguard! They've recently gained a new instructor who is a member of the WGI board of directors, so he is obviously doing a great job with them. All the bands are doing well for this early in the season and Round Rock hopes for the best for everyone!

 

Interesting cause if i am correct McNeil has an exit show and a pre show and only stops playing for 9 - 10 measures of the whole show....not being biased cause i am not in the band anymore...i am just saying its something i observed from the stands yesterday. I saw all the shows.

[Montoya]

I think 3 of the 5 bands in Round Rock are boring, uninspired, and lifeless.

 

I'll leave you to guess which ones...

[mrwood69]

Edited October 13, 2010 by mrwood69

[mrwood69]

Edited October 13, 2010 by mrwood69

[Montoya]

  mrwood69 said:

Um, I don't recall percussion being a part of the score, since last year when RR went to SA, I never saw anything on the recap for percussion. I'd say the credibility goes to my argument because DCI has CG and percussion owning up to 20 points of the total score each, which I think is appropriate. Considering DCI is what every band should idolizing (which btw, BOA-typical bands do not do very well), I think that's how marching band contests should idolize too in how they score.

 

 

 

Music Performance Individual takes into account Woodwinds (75), Brass (75), and Percussion (50). Those 200 points then equal the Music Individual score. When anyone other than the directors see the recaps, all they see is the final score. The public is not privy to the breakdown as it pertains to the individual sections.

[Montoya]

I think Cedar Ridge might beg to differ...

 

 

Westwood

Stony Point

McNeil

Round Rock

Cedar Ridge

[mrwood69]

  MaverickBand15 said:

Interesting cause if i am correct McNeil has an exit show and a pre show and only stops playing for 9 - 10 measures of the whole show....not being biased cause i am not in the band anymore...i am just saying its something i observed from the stands yesterday. I saw all the shows.

 

 

Every band has 8 minutes, the amount of mvts is irrelevant. I don't know about Mcneil, but RR has no break points between mvts, it's literally continuous. I don't know why you're having this Blue Devils-chairs effect.

[mrwood69]

Edited October 13, 2010 by mrwood69

[mrwood69]

  Montoya said:

Music Performance Individual takes into account Woodwinds (75), Brass (75), and Percussion (50). Those 200 points then equal the Music Individual score. When anyone other than the directors see the recaps, all they see is the final score. The public is not privy to the breakdown as it pertains to the individual sections.

 

 

Our directors show us the full recap... we never saw a percussion score.

Edited October 3, 2010 by mrwood69

[Montoya]

  mrwood69 said:

Our directors show us the full recap... we never saw a percussion score.

 

 

1. It is fair to include Cedar Ridge, as they have a full functioning marching band that performs AND will compete. And you did say there were only 4 bands in R.R.

 

2. http://www.musicforall.org/what-we-do/marc...cation-handbook

 

Page 36.

Edited October 3, 2010 by Montoya

[takigan]

  Montoya said:

I think 3 of the 5 bands in Round Rock are boring, uninspired, and lifeless.

 

I'll leave you to guess which ones...

 

Don't you write the shows for 2 of those 5?

[Montoya]

  takigan said:

Don't you write the shows for 2 of those 5?

 

 

No... I write for THREE of those five.

 

:-)

[mrwood69]

  Montoya said:

No... I write for THREE of those five.

 

:-)

 

 

Isn't that a little inappropriate for you to be saying considering you're affiliated those schools?

[Montoya]

  mrwood69 said:

Isn't that a little inappropriate for you to be saying considering you're affiliated those schools?

 

Is sarcasm not taught in the public schools any more?

[mrwood69]

  Montoya said:

Is sarcasm not taught in the public schools any more?

 

 

My bad, I forgot to turn on my sarcasm-detecting feature on Internet Explorer.

[takigan]

The Firefox Sarcasm-Detector add-on works better IMO.

[Nope]

mrwood69, I highly suggest you stop posting, Now. You're trying to prove professionals wrong and you clearly have NO idea what you are talking about, you're making your program look Very stupid right now. Year after year band kids come onto this site fighting for or against some certain judging system, and they only like the ones that score them higher. I guarantee you would be complaining if you had gotten 3rd, get over yourself, and stop posting.

Edited October 4, 2010 by Nope