2010 UIL State

[Drummantx]

In other news.......lol

 

North Lamar should do pretty well in 3A, never heard of them until I watched a video. They are pretty dang good!

[TxRaider13]

  drummerdad said:

Quite frankly, I disagree with this assessment. The true, unpredictable variable, is UIL judging...especially at area. The fact that all area contests are held on the same weekend, and that most of the most "up-to-date" judges are either directing bands or assisting bands in competition, means you end up with a lot of folks who have been out of the activity for awhile trying to judge an art that had changed and progressed. I also realize that UIL rubrics make it hard for a program like Churchill, who thrives on GE, to impress judges looking at criteria that does not reward many of the efforts programs like Churchill and SFA (Sugarland)...and others attempt to put on the field.

 

 

I get what you're saying, but for the judges they aren't all old. I know at Area C they had college directors and a few high school ones as well. I will agree the judging does seem to get a little nuts at both area and state. I have never been to a BOA contest so I can't say anything about the judging yet

[TxRaider13]

  Drummantx said:

In other news.......lol

 

North Lamar should do pretty well in 3A, never heard of them until I watched a video. They are pretty dang good!

 

 

I've seen North Lamar twice this year, and they always seem to do well. Maybe not this year, but next state cycle they should medal

[mrwood69]

Anyone know if Bell is staying the night in San AN the day before?

[drummerdad]

  TxRaider13 said:

I get what you're saying, but for the judges they aren't all old. I know at Area C they had college directors and a few high school ones as well. I will agree the judging does seem to get a little nuts at both area and state. I have never been to a BOA contest so I can't say anything about the judging yet

 

Agreed...and age isn't necessarily the correct guide for suitability. But it only takes one "out-of-date" judge to completely skew a contest like UIL area or state. I realize for some this adds to the excitement, but I also think it takes away from it's credibility.

[Danpod]

  mrwood69 said:

Anyone know if Bell is staying the night in San AN the day before?

 

According to the itinerary, yes.

[mrwood69]

  Danpod said:

According to the itinerary, yes.

 

 

Hopefully they get a good night's sleep

[TxRaider13]

  drummerdad said:

Agreed...and age isn't necessarily the correct guide for suitability. But it only takes one "out-of-date" judge to completely skew a contest like UIL area or state. I realize for some this adds to the excitement, but I also think it takes away from it's credibility.

 

 

Yeah I agree I think I said that on another topic, that it only takes one judge to change how your band places. I honestly don't have a better way to do it so I'm not going to even try, but if anyone else does I would like to hear it. I know BOA and UIL judging is different, but is one better than the other?

 

As for Bell staying, I think thats great instead of making 2 long trips down, hope those kids get rested for the huge week they have ahead of them

[kdnblue142]

  Danpod said:

According to the itinerary, yes.

So what does the itinerary say about coming to BOA this Saturday, which lasts well after 11pm, and then having to be back to the 'Dome on Tuesday, which would be another late night?

In one way it would make 'sense' to just stay the extra days but it would certainly be expensive and they would miss school. So I guess they go back home and then come right back on Tuesday.....?

Just curious how Marcus, Bell and the others from East Texas and points North did this?

 

And then there's Grand Nationals....

[longhorn2190]

  kdnblue142 said:

So what does the itinerary say about coming to BOA this Saturday, which lasts well after 11pm, and then having to be back to the 'Dome on Tuesday, which would be another late night?

In one way it would make 'sense' to just stay the extra days but it would certainly be expensive and they would miss school. So I guess they go back home and then come right back on Tuesday.....?

Just curious how Marcus, Bell and the others from East Texas and points North did this?

 

And then there's Grand Nationals....

 

I have a friend from the marcus band that graduated last year and she told me that they just stay in San Antonio from BOA until State and come home tuesday night

[daldhowe]

  kdnblue142 said:

So what does the itinerary say about coming to BOA this Saturday, which lasts well after 11pm, and then having to be back to the 'Dome on Tuesday, which would be another late night?

In one way it would make 'sense' to just stay the extra days but it would certainly be expensive and they would miss school. So I guess they go back home and then come right back on Tuesday.....?

Just curious how Marcus, Bell and the others from East Texas and points North did this?

 

And then there's Grand Nationals....

 

Keller stays in San Antonio through Tuesday and practices at local stadiums.....did the same in '08. Yes it is expensive.

[kingsmom]

  kdnblue142 said:

So what does the itinerary say about coming to BOA this Saturday, which lasts well after 11pm, and then having to be back to the 'Dome on Tuesday, which would be another late night?

In one way it would make 'sense' to just stay the extra days but it would certainly be expensive and they would miss school. So I guess they go back home and then come right back on Tuesday.....?

Just curious how Marcus, Bell and the others from East Texas and points North did this?

 

And then there's Grand Nationals....

 

According to the itinerary on their web site...

For BOA on Saturday, Bell leaves at 5:30am Sat. morning and return at 5:00am Sun. morning. The attend school on Monday. They then leave for UIL on Monday afternoon and stay the night in SA.

[Xenon]

Another update on the Webcast from Richard Floyd:

 

  Richard Floyd said:

We are told we will get the word one way or the other on Friday 10/29. Its a long story. Hope it has a happy ending.

[Nope]

  Quote

 

0:23-1:26

3:36-5:50

6:16-6:49

 

All those are moments in which the tempo is not that fast... or fast at all. Now regarding intensity... what exactly does intense mean? Does it mean something like that upside down triangle set in the opener where the entire band is playing, rumbling the bleachers? I don't think so, because they tried that very same trick the next year, and as everyone already knew, that was simply a product of their size the year before, so it was a little disappointing. I'm being picky right now, and obviously Cedar park had an incredibly arranged show that year, but it's a high school marching band... not Allah revealing himself.

 

By the way... if you're not first, you're last.

 

Yeah find a more intense show in the last 10 years, drum corps doesn't count. So you're saying that because cedar park used the same drill the year after...it takes away from the first year they did it. Right, well you have the most flawed logic I've ever seen. Intensity is not something I would expect an immature kid to understand. It's a lot more than just playing loud and moving fast, it's in the build, and the way you communicate with your audience. That show communicated the Entire time.

 

By the way.....does that make Round Rock like -20th?

[mrwood69]

  Nope said:

Yeah find a more intense show in the last 10 years, drum corps doesn't count. So you're saying that because cedar park used the same drill the year after...it takes away from the first year they did it. Right, well you have the most flawed logic I've ever seen. Intensity is not something I would expect an immature kid to understand. It's a lot more than just playing loud and moving fast, it's in the build, and the way you communicate with your audience. That show communicated the Entire time.

 

By the way.....does that make Round Rock like -20th?

 

You would know about flawed logic, Mr. Ad Hominem. Child please.

 

[NewMexicoBandsman]

I appreciate the irony of that comment

[Xenon]

Very unfortunate update on the webcast from Richard Floyd:

 

  Richard Floyd said:

In spite of our best efforts, there will be no web cast of the State

Marching Band Contest.

 

We will continue to work towards the goal of providing this service in the future.

[katsmeow]

Amen! Well said!

  Drummantx said:

I find that kind of offensive. My band has been in a 4 year slump of not making finals since state 2006, and this year we did. We didn't care that there were 3 bands above us, we cared that our hard work put us in a place we wanted to be. Our director was talking about a contest in 2001. We slipped into finals with the last slot. In finals, we gave the most electric and awesome performance we had EVER had. He came running down the stands because he was so excited. No, the students don't remember that we only placed 8th, they remember that unimmaginable feeling of having the most amazing performance they ever had. That is what marching band is about. So let's rephrase that, if you have "THAT" performance, then you win.

[morebueno]

I would like to see a band win who has never before...

 

There are many bands who go consistently to state, who different would you like to see win?

[longhorn2190]

Does anyone know who the dude who does all of the announcing for state is?

[longhorn2190]

  morebueno said:

I would like to see a band win who has never before...

 

There are many bands who go consistently to state, who different would you like to see win?

 

are you including bands that have never won in 5A but maybe in a different class years ago as a band you would like to see win?

[jmj]

  longhorn2190 said:

Does anyone know who the dude who does all of the announcing for state is?

 

In years past, it's been the guy who is the UIL Theatre director. It is ironic because he is very monotone and brings pretty much zero drama or excitement to the announcements. It would be nice if they got someone else to do it this year, but I doubt it.

[Xenon]

  jmj said:

In years past, it's been the guy who is the UIL Theatre director. It is ironic because he is very monotone and brings pretty much zero drama or excitement to the announcements. It would be nice if they got someone else to do it this year, but I doubt it.

And he can't pronounce names of people or pieces either except for the Hispanic ones.

 

ShastAkavich...........

[bingogooberman]

  Xenon said:

And he can't pronounce names of people or pieces either except for the Hispanic ones.

 

ShastAkavich...........

or schools for that matter

WAXahachie

[jmj]

  Xenon said:

ShastAkavich...........

 

Lol. Yes! Makes my ears bleed...