CPbass Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 Has anyone seen Spring? I'm pretty sure they were 7th last year at SA last year, definitely wouldn't count them out of a lock if they're planning to attend BOA SA this season. Quote
Statebound Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 drummerjoe said: Bowie beat LD Bell ! But that's due to Bell losing a good amount of their students, or so I've heard. As for Marcus, they are always unrealistically amazing. The Bowie show is the best show I've seen this year and I would put them on the same tier with Marcus going into San Antonio. Bell's show is typically strong, their guard dominate the performance and the colors are brilliant. Their music is technically stronger this year than the past couple, which I think is what has been keeping them behind Marcus. However, I've now seen the show twice and it's not quite on par with the first two. Those people certainly know how to turn it on and they've got nearly 3 weeks to do it. The world is a better place with a strong LD Bell show so here's hoping they prove me wrong. Lastly, your sleeper for BOA finals this year is Flower Mound. Frankly, I have no idea where it's coming from because I have never even seen FM makes finals in the past, but they have a very creative show that will get attention. In fact, they finished 4th at Arlington and won Birdville last week over Mansfield and Hebron so they should not be a surprise. Fun as always! Quote
mellopwn1 Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Call me crazy, but I don't think that Bowie's show is anything out of the ordinary. In fact, the visual design is not excessively challenging/remarkable and the concept itself is, dare I say, cheesy. HOWEVER, what is extraordinary is the level of execution of the very difficult and tasteful music book. On one hand I want to say that their design might hold them back in the long run, while on the other I am reminded of Marcus 2007 where I had the same exact thought around this time but then they went off to get the highest regional score in BOA history. In other words, I think Bowie has the potential to place anywhere from 1st-5th based on the climate of competition And final product. Excited to see the ending to this story! Also, when looking at Flower Mound, it might be helpful to consider Pflugerville 2010. It may have been a little less dramatic, but they shocked everyone last year by coming out of nowhere at Arlington and placing 4th. By the time SA rolled around, they ended up on 15th place. I'm not saying this will happen to Flower Mound necessarily, but it raises the point tht erly season success does always determine late season triumphs, and vice versa. Quote
Marchingfan27 Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised (sorry, probably my love for hometown speaking here) if all three of the good SA bands made it in the ranges of 8th-5th, more likely Johnson being the highest placing, mainly because when you're a band who doesn't always go to grand nats, you tend to just perform better and have a better show when you do go. Quote
drummerjoe Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Marchingfan27 said: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised (sorry, probably my love for hometown speaking here) if all three of the good SA bands made it in the ranges of 8th-5th, more likely Johnson being the highest placing, mainly because when you're a band who doesn't always go to grand nats, you tend to just perform better and have a better show when you do go. Johnson is going to Grant Nats? News to me. But against that argument, this isn't the final competition for any Grand Nats attendees. Many of the other schools have this competition as their season ender, and therefore put all of their effort into preparing for this specific competition. While I admit, any band going to Grand Nats is going to be well motivated, I don't see how that would make them any more motivated to perform better at a mid-season competition than a band at their final competition. Despite all of that, I don't doubt Johnson will do well. I haven't seen them yet this season, but if what I've been hearing is correct, then they must be truly a top tier band program. Plus they are relatively new: I heard of them for the first time last year when they smoked most of the competition at Area D Finals. (which was their first area contest, right?) And apparently they are better this year than last year. Quote
drummerjoe Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Also, I went through the list of bands and finally came up with a group that I think is truly in the running for finals. Locks: Johnson Bowie Woodlands Marcus Cedar Park LD Bell Bubble: Anderson Round Rock Reagan Churchill SFA Spring Richland Westlake Pflugerville Hebron Vista Ridge Brazoswood Coppell Vandegrift Leander Haltom I'd be surprised if a band not on these lists made finals, but I could have easily overlooked some bands (especially since I'm fairly new to the BOA field). I'm certainly biased toward central Texas Quote
takigan Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Locks: Bell - Industry Standard Marcus - Precise as a razor. Caption-Sweeped Prelims and Finals in one of the most competitive early-season Regionals of all-time, and is pretty much unstoppable this season, much like they were in 2007. Shame they aren't going to Nationals; they'd actually have a shot at finally dethroning Avon. The Woodlands - Back on their game Cedar Park - Energetic and powerful as always SFA - Incredible field presence James Bowie - insane musical energy, and something to prove... Bubble: Hebron - issues with their show could keep them out, but they could still bounce back Spring - All quiet on the southern front.....a storm a brewin perhaps? Flower Mound - Having an awesome year! Churchill - consistent finalist Reagan - Always a late season blossomer.....the old Reagan seems to be coming back. Johnson - Will most likely make finals, but not necessarily a lock Westlake - Were in a bit of a slump but they seem to be making a comeback Anderson - A new face from CenTex who's proven themselves in recent years.... Keller - consistent finalist Legacy - Having an awesome year! Leander - Can surprise you Martin - A regular finalist at Arlington...and they've made the cut before here. Aledo - Pulls out the stops in the late season Richland - Been quiet in recent years.....but always has been a consistent finalist. Round Rock - Better every year.....unstoppable drumline Vandegrift - The loose cannon.....never know what to expect College Park - Also better every year....another rising star Coppell - Maybe finals this year? They're always up there.... Brazoswood - They have good years and bad years.....this year is seeming like a good one, much like last year.... If I were to pick the 8 other finalists I'd guess Johnson, Reagan, Spring, Richland, Flower Mound, Legacy, Keller and Brazoswood. Quote
bchorn Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 My alma mater just posted the prelim schedule for Friday and Saturday. Friday schedule 12:00pm-8:00pm Saturday schedule 7:30am-3:30pm Quote
drummerjoe Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 After today, I'm considering adding Vandegrift as a lock. Quote
daldhowe Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 takigan said: Locks: Bell - Industry Standard Marcus - Precise as a razor. Caption-Sweeped Prelims and Finals in one of the most competitive early-season Regionals of all-time, and is pretty much unstoppable this season, much like they were in 2007. Shame they aren't going to Nationals; they'd actually have a shot at finally dethroning Avon. The Woodlands - Back on their game Cedar Park - Energetic and powerful as always SFA - Incredible field presence James Bowie - insane musical energy, and something to prove... Bubble: Hebron - issues with their show could keep them out, but they could still bounce back Spring - All quiet on the southern front.....a storm a brewin perhaps? Flower Mound - Having an awesome year! Churchill - consistent finalist Reagan - Always a late season blossomer.....the old Reagan seems to be coming back. Johnson - Will most likely make finals, but not necessarily a lock Westlake - Were in a bit of a slump but they seem to be making a comeback Anderson - A new face from CenTex who's proven themselves in recent years.... Keller - consistent finalist Legacy - Having an awesome year! Leander - Can surprise you Martin - A regular finalist at Arlington...and they've made the cut before here. Aledo - Pulls out the stops in the late season Richland - Been quiet in recent years.....but always has been a consistent finalist. Round Rock - Better every year.....unstoppable drumline Vandegrift - The loose cannon.....never know what to expect College Park - Also better every year....another rising star Coppell - Maybe finals this year? They're always up there.... Brazoswood - They have good years and bad years.....this year is seeming like a good one, much like last year.... If I were to pick the 8 other finalists I'd guess Johnson, Reagan, Spring, Richland, Flower Mound, Legacy, Keller and Brazoswood. Keller will be at Duncanville but not BOA-SA Quote
Itsover2024 Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Let me throw Mansfield into the mix. They were very strong at birdville finishing 2nd to Flower Mound and finished 1st at Carrollton ahead of Haltom, Hebron and Rowlett Quote
NewMexicoBandsman Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 drummerjoe said: Also, I went through the list of bands and finally came up with a group that I think is truly in the running for finals. Locks: Johnson Bowie Woodlands Marcus Cedar Park LD Bell Bubble: Anderson Round Rock Reagan Churchill SFA Spring Richland Westlake Pflugerville Hebron Vista Ridge Brazoswood Coppell Vandegrift Leander Haltom I'd be surprised if a band not on these lists made finals, but I could have easily overlooked some bands (especially since I'm fairly new to the BOA field). I'm certainly biased toward central Texas I would add SFA to the locks Quote
skill Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Sebastian C said: Churchill def not a lock. They didn't even make uil state last year. How in the world can you take not making state, a determining factor for not being a lock. Every year is a new year. Every season is a different show with different music and different kids. Don't be so harsh. Quote
Drum major Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 drummerjoe said: After today, I'm considering adding Vandegrift as a lock. I'm not sure I agree with them as a "lock". I do hope they make finals as they did great job, but if your lock is based on the Vista Ridge's contest, I'm not sure I would put all my weight in those scores. I believe one would be hard pressed to defend the scores esp in the caption sections in 4A and 5A not only in prelims but also finals. This is my opinion but I have a feeling that alot of people will agree with this assessment. Quote
Statebound Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 takigan said: Locks: Bell - Industry Standard Marcus - Precise as a razor. Caption-Sweeped Prelims and Finals in one of the most competitive early-season Regionals of all-time, and is pretty much unstoppable this season, much like they were in 2007. Shame they aren't going to Nationals; they'd actually have a shot at finally dethroning Avon. The Woodlands - Back on their game Cedar Park - Energetic and powerful as always SFA - Incredible field presence James Bowie - insane musical energy, and something to prove... Bubble: Hebron - issues with their show could keep them out, but they could still bounce back Spring - All quiet on the southern front.....a storm a brewin perhaps? Flower Mound - Having an awesome year! Churchill - consistent finalist Reagan - Always a late season blossomer.....the old Reagan seems to be coming back. Johnson - Will most likely make finals, but not necessarily a lock Westlake - Were in a bit of a slump but they seem to be making a comeback Anderson - A new face from CenTex who's proven themselves in recent years.... Keller - consistent finalist Legacy - Having an awesome year! Leander - Can surprise you Martin - A regular finalist at Arlington...and they've made the cut before here. Aledo - Pulls out the stops in the late season Richland - Been quiet in recent years.....but always has been a consistent finalist. Round Rock - Better every year.....unstoppable drumline Vandegrift - The loose cannon.....never know what to expect College Park - Also better every year....another rising star Coppell - Maybe finals this year? They're always up there.... Brazoswood - They have good years and bad years.....this year is seeming like a good one, much like last year.... If I were to pick the 8 other finalists I'd guess Johnson, Reagan, Spring, Richland, Flower Mound, Legacy, Keller and Brazoswood. This is a great post and I can't disagree with much of it. I was able to get over to Carrollton for the TOC finals and you can add Mansfield and Haltom to your "locks" for BOA SA, particularly Mansfield who I believe will be in the top tier. Both shows are tailor-made for BOA judging and quite impressive. Haltom's "grim reaper" program should play well the week of Halloween. On the other hand, Hebron finally put in their 3rd set and they have a long way to go. The muscial performance is typically strong (they received 1st in music caption) but the show has no buzz and I have no idea where manequins and break dancing fit in. Actually, I need to give the break dancer kids some love because they were very entertaining:) I was gently informed by a Hebron parent that they have not missed a finals in any event they have entered in over 5 years, so they have 3 weeks to pull it together. Quote
bchorn Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Drum major said: I'm not sure I agree with them as a "lock". I do hope they make finals as they did great job, but if your lock is based on the Vista Ridge's contest, I'm not sure I would put all my weight in those scores. I believe one would be hard pressed to defend the scores esp in the caption sections in 4A and 5A not only in prelims but also finals. This is my opinion but I have a feeling that alot of people will agree with this assessment. I have to agree. There are going to be a lot of crazy good bands at BOA San Antonio. In fact, I think the only thing that is a lock is that a lot of really good bands are going to be left out of the finals competition. Quote
ProudBandDad Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) All this "lock" and "bubble" talk is making my head spin. My only sure fire lock is: Saturday lunch on the Riverwalk! Let's hope for fantastic San Antonio weather with blue skies and cool breezes. Ahhh... I can taste the guacamole now..... For all the band parents who have never been to the San Antonio Super Regional, it is highly recommended as a weekend getaway. Lot's of good sportmanship and great bands to enjoy! Love mingling with the other band parents & fans too! -- PBD Edited October 17, 2011 by ProudBandDad Quote
bksatx Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 bchorn said: I have to agree. There are going to be a lot of crazy good bands at BOA San Antonio. In fact, I think the only thing that is a lock is that a lot of really good bands are going to be left out of the finals competition. You are exactly right! There are going to be some really good bands looking from the outside in. I am looking forward to all of this in a couple of weeks Quote
NewMexicoBandsman Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 skill said: How in the world can you take not making state, a determining factor for not being a lock. Every year is a new year. Every season is a different show with different music and different kids. Don't be so harsh. I think the definition of a "lock" in this case is a band that will absolutely, without a doubt make finals. Churchill is a great program, and they will certainly be a strong contender for a finals slot, but given last year's upset, it's hard to be absolutely sure with them. As such I think it's fair to call them a "bubble" band Quote
kdnblue142 Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 ProudBandDad said: All this "lock" and "bubble" talk is making my head spin. My only sure fire lock is: Saturday lunch on the Riverwalk! Let's hope for fantastic San Antonio weather with blue skies and cool breezes. Ahhh... I can taste the guacamole now..... For all the band parents who have never been to the San Antonio Super Regional, it is highly recommended as a weekend getaway. Lot's of good sportmanship and great bands to enjoy! Love mingling with the other band parents & fans too! -- PBD Sure 'come on down!" The weather is finally getting more 'civilized'. My band kid has graduated and gone on to college but I can't get the BOA regionals out of my blood! I am hoping to get on the the volunteer list this year for the Super Regional along with my band kid. She is dying to volunteer too but she admits it will be difficult to watch rather than march This is the first time in 4 years I haven't seen any of the bands play yet except for one. Quote
mrwood69 Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) . Edited October 28, 2011 by mrwood69 Quote
drummerjoe Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I wouldn't be so quick to add schools as locks. There is a LOT of competition this year, and anything could happen. Band programs usually peak and fall, and it seems every program is peaking this year. Quote
Marchingfan27 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 mrwood69 said: Yeah, well the program has been getting progessively worse since 2008 and has probably hit its standard with the the current directors and staff having all their own kids instead of the remaining ones from the previous head director and his staff. Just because components of a marching band are new every year doesn't mean the direction is. And sorry if this is offensive but it's the truth... Not true, the program hit a hard spot, but they're not getting worse. if they were getting worse, they wouldnt have even been in finals last year. With people like Tommy Williams, Adam Clay, Tim Maynerd, and Jenifer Leseth working with them this year, and most likely the following years after, I can only see them getting better, especially with michael gaines as their drill writer. Now, I did march for churchill, so yeah sorry for the bias haha. But once a charger, always a charger Quote
Clarinot Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 ProudBandDad said: All this "lock" and "bubble" talk is making my head spin. My only sure fire lock is: Saturday lunch on the Riverwalk! Anywhere but the Riverwalk!! Quote
drummerjoe Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Marchingfan27 said: Not true, the program hit a hard spot, but they're not getting worse. if they were getting worse, they wouldnt have even been in finals last year. With people like Tommy Williams, Adam Clay, Tim Maynerd, and Jenifer Leseth working with them this year, and most likely the following years after, I can only see them getting better, especially with michael gaines as their drill writer. Now, I did march for churchill, so yeah sorry for the bias haha. But once a charger, always a charger Ehh, tides ebb and flow, and so do band programs. But it takes more than a year to consider a band program out of the running, so I'd wait a few more years before you make that accusation. Quote
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