Nosagi Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Hello, long time reader, first time poster! I just graduated from high school this past semester, having been in band all 4 years I definitely want to stay involved. Now I have a particular set of skills in sound engineering and with the band I was in I always felt we lacked in sound innovation (i.e. no sampling, standard micing setups). I've talked with the directors of the band explaining to them that I want to help and how I can help, and they are interested. This year the show this band is putting on involves narration, now I know what a lot of people would say about narration and I understand completely and I have my ideas on how to spice it up without taking away from the show. This band competes heavily in both UIL and BOA, so they have to comply with both rules. The real problem I'm having is with the interpretation of UIL's rules regarding electronics. Quote (4) Electronic Equipment. Electronic equipment may be used under the following provisions:(A) All electronically produced music including narration and sound effects shall be performed live and in real time by eligible students. ( Pre-recorded music, instrumental or vocal, may not be used. Is that saying that PRERECORDED narration can be used if it is triggered by a student? I know it can in BOA but UIL can be very uptight sometimes regarding their rules. Quote
Xenon Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 That is a very good question and the best/safest way to get an answer is to call the UIL Music office and get an official answer from them just to make sure that everything is absolutely 100% OK. I believe this wording was changed very recently, but I don't remember what the exact changes were, so answers on how this was handled in the past may no longer be accurate. Quote
Montoya Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) Taken from "The Leaguer" "Another marching band issue has to do with the rule addressing electronically produced music. With the world of technology continually evolving and new devices being introduced almost daily, it appears virtually impossible to draft a rule that addresses all circumstances and all applications of technology. At present, Section 1105 (4) states that all electronically produced music including narration and sound effects shall be performed live and in real time by eligible students. However, in the fall of 2011 the UIL State Executive Committee issued the following interpretation to further define what is acceptable and what is not in regards to digital samples. The interpretation states, Edited September 11, 2012 by Montoya Quote
Xenon Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 Montoya said: Taken from "The Leaguer" "Another marching band issue has to do with the rule addressing electronically produced music. With the world of technology continually evolving and new devices being introduced almost daily, it appears virtually impossible to draft a rule that addresses all circumstances and all applications of technology. At present, Section 1105 (4) states that all electronically produced music including narration and sound effects shall be performed live and in real time by eligible students. However, in the fall of 2011 the UIL State Executive Committee issued the following interpretation to further define what is acceptable and what is not in regards to digital samples. The interpretation states, Quote
Montoya Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 It is my understanding that pre-recorded narration, like a Tarpon Springs show, is legal now. As long as it is live triggered. Narration, sound effects, etc. are now considered Musical Effects so they're all good. Needless to say, I'm having a field day with this this year! Quote
Danpod Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Montoya said: It is my understanding that pre-recorded narration, like a Tarpon Springs show, is legal now. As long as it is live triggered. Narration, sound effects, etc. are now considered Musical Effects so they're all good. Needless to say, I'm having a field day with this this year! #Montopportunity Quote
Nosagi Posted September 13, 2012 Author Posted September 13, 2012 I have talked with the good people at UIL and they assured me that the prerecorded narration I was planning on using is NOT allowed, no matter if it is operated and controlled by an eligible student. Back to the drawing board... Quote
Xenon Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Nosagi said: I have talked with the good people at UIL and they assured me that the prerecorded narration I was planning on using is NOT allowed, no matter if it is operated and controlled by an eligible student. Back to the drawing board... At least you have an answer, even if it wasn't the one you wanted. Danpod said: #Montopportunity That's probably the least successful portmontoya I've seen... Quote
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