Area 2012 Primer

[Danpod]

http://www.uiltexas.org/music/marching-ban...ement-procedure

 

Hot Points:

 

- Three Music judges, two Marching judges. The panel typically switches responsibilities between Prelims and Finals. All rankings count (No Bad Judge Rule).

 

- The number of State Qualifiers from your Area depends on how many bands are in Area Prelims. If your Area Prelims has more than fifteen (15) bands in it, your Area will eventually advance one band per five bands to State. (30 bands in Area Prelims = 6 State Qualifiers)

 

- Verification Period: One person from each Finalist school goes in to the room to review the rankings. All representatives must be in agreement of the rankings before they are announced.

 

- "In contests advancing three or more bands, any band that receives a ranking of three or higher from two music judges and one marching judge shall also advance to State." Although there is not a Bad Judge Rule in effect, this little exception would help a band advance if one judge is not in consensus with the others.

[T.Stechnij]

I got to thinking this: In BOA if a band ties in 10th for prelims they get to advance to finals (bar any inconsistencies- Conroe 2011, I am looking at you) and they do not do the GE score breaker. If two bands tie at UIL Area finals do they both advance?

[Danpod]

  T.Stechnij said:

I got to thinking this: In BOA if a band ties in 10th for prelims they get to advance to finals (bar any inconsistencies- Conroe 2011, I am looking at you) and they do not do the GE score breaker. If two bands tie at UIL Area finals do they both advance?

 

The tie-breaker procedure would be used to determine who goes on to State and who stays home. In a two-way tie, you look to see which band had the higher ranking by at least three judges.

[longhornsax]

  Danpod said:

http://www.uiltexas.org/music/marching-ban...ement-procedure

- "In contests advancing three or more bands, any band that receives a ranking of three or higher from two music judges and one marching judge shall also advance to State." Although there is not a Bad Judge Rule in effect, this little exception would help a band advance if one judge is not in consensus with the others.

 

Has this ever happened? I think it's a relatively newer rule, but has it been used yet?

[Montoya]

  longhornsax said:

Has this ever happened? I think it's a relatively newer rule, but has it been used yet?

 

 

Area D, 2010: While not for state advancement, Pflugerville and Westwood tied for tenth in Area Prelims. Judges preference put Westwood into finals.

Edited October 24, 2012 by Montoya

[Donezo]

  longhornsax said:

Has this ever happened? I think it's a relatively newer rule, but has it been used yet?

 

It happened in Area C 2002. Creekview finished 6th (only 5 advanced to state), but had two music judges and one marching judge place them in the top 3, so they advanced as well. I think this is also how Langham Creek advanced to state finals in 2000.

 

I doubt we'll see this too much anymore, since state advancers are determined from a more limited field. I believe 2002 was the last 5A state year without area finals. In the case I mentioned, Creekview had two judges place them in the 18-25 range, which obviously can't happen in area finals. Had both judges placed them 10th, it wouldn't have been an issue.

Edited October 24, 2012 by Donezo

[takigan]

  longhornsax said:

Has this ever happened? I think it's a relatively newer rule, but has it been used yet?

 

4A Area F 2009, Galena Park advanced to State as a 3rd band behind Friendswood and Dawson. GP tied Dawson for 2nd, but still advanced anyway due to number of 3rd place or higher votes. It almost happened again in 2011 as well in the same Area with Huntsville and Clear Falls.....Both bands met the requirements of 3rd place votes from 1 of the categories (I think Huntsville had 2 3rd place votes in Music while Falls had a 3rd place vote in Marching), and both had 3rd or 4th place votes in the opposite category to where they were both only 1 rank away across the board from meeting the requirement to advance.

 

This is to be expected though in an Area that often only takes 2 bands due to having less than 15 bands at Area prelims...both of which are commonly the clear frontrunners (Friendswood & Dawson). Basically all you have to do is distinguish yourself from the rest of the pack and you can force a third slot.

 

EDIT: Actually I may have read that wrong. It says for contests that advance 2 bands, 2 rankings of 2nd or higher from the music judges and 1 from the marching judge are required for a 3rd band to advance. I wonder if that's a recent change.....I don't remember reading that last year.