2012 5A State Marching Contest

[knoxisawesome348]

I'm very surprised on how little people have spoken of Plano East. They seemed to have come out of nowhere (Having last made state in 2000) but beat L.D. Bell and Richland at prelims and finals at the area B competition this year. Additionally, they were just announced a few hours ago to have made BOA San Antonio finals.

 

It also seems they are being largely predicted to make State Finals but in all honesty, who would have predicted that a month ago before their performance at area? What does everyone think of their show? I personally hope they do well, seeing as they seem to be an underdog

[TxRaider13]

  knoxisawesome348 said:

I'm very surprised on how little people have spoken of Plano East. They seemed to have come out of nowhere (Having last made state in 2000) but beat L.D. Bell and Richland at prelims and finals at the area B competition this year. Additionally, they were just announced a few hours ago to have made BOA San Antonio finals.

 

It also seems they are being largely predicted to make State Finals but in all honesty, who would have predicted that a month ago before their performance at area? What does everyone think of their show? I personally hope they do well, seeing as they seem to be an underdog

Did they not attend state in 2002?

[bandbot4.0]

  knoxisawesome348 said:

I'm very surprised on how little people have spoken of Plano East. They seemed to have come out of nowhere (Having last made state in 2000) but beat L.D. Bell and Richland at prelims and finals at the area B competition this year. Additionally, they were just announced a few hours ago to have made BOA San Antonio finals.

 

It also seems they are being largely predicted to make State Finals but in all honesty, who would have predicted that a month ago before their performance at area? What does everyone think of their show? I personally hope they do well, seeing as they seem to be an underdog

 

I hope your band does well too.

[knoxisawesome348]

No, I believe Plano East has only attended the state competition in 1998 and 2000

[herpaderp]

  knoxisawesome348 said:

I'm very surprised on how little people have spoken of Plano East. They seemed to have come out of nowhere (Having last made state in 2000) but beat L.D. Bell and Richland at prelims and finals at the area B competition this year. Additionally, they were just announced a few hours ago to have made BOA San Antonio finals.

 

It also seems they are being largely predicted to make State Finals but in all honesty, who would have predicted that a month ago before their performance at area? What does everyone think of their show? I personally hope they do well, seeing as they seem to be an underdog

 

They do have a shot, of course, but SO many groups do. State Finals are a crapshoot. I predict Plano in the top 15 for sure but I wouldn't bank on anything more specific than that. They're just part of the really unpredictable bubble on the last 2 or 3 spots in finals. Also, after seeing their placement at BOA SA I wouldn't call it a given. A bunch of bands beat them that they have to edge out to have a shot. They lost to Reagan, Westlake, and Richland (by a nose on the last two, admittedly) and were only 1 place ahead of Spring. All four of those groups are fighting Plano for the last couple of slots IMO, plus a few others that weren't at BOA.

 

Of course BOA is a different ballgame than UIL, and every performance could change everything. However, this to me is a better predictor than Area, purely out of how much closer the timeframe is.

 

Area results also tend to have fairly little bearing on State. Last time around, Westlake made 5th in Area D finals and managed to get a state finals slot. The only other band from that area that made finals was Bowie. Area B and C almost always have big shakeups in a similar vein.

 

No one's discounting Plano, it's just a very tough contest.

[Donezo]

I do think Plano East's show would have ranked higher last night had it been a UIL contest. Their 5th from the music ensemble judge bodes well (and honestly that's where I think they belonged musically.)

 

EDIT: To resolve the earlier debate, Plano East was at State in 2002. They were 17th in prelims. 4th at 5A Area C.

Edited November 4, 2012 by Donezo

[jmj]

  Donezo said:

I do think Plano East's show would have ranked higher last night had it been a UIL contest. Their 5th from the music ensemble judge bodes well (and honestly that's where I think they belonged musically.)

 

EDIT: To resolve the earlier debate, Plano East was at State in 2002. They were 17th in prelims. 4th at 5A Area C.

 

I agree! I was really amazed by Plano East last night. Beautiful show! I would not be surprised at all to see them in the top 10 Tuesday night.

[Rowlett MEB]

  Nosagi said:

I haven't seen their show this year, just speculation, but could they just be a band that peaks early?

 

Coming from Rowlett, sadly, your question is fairly true... We always aimed to make state but once we got there, we soon realized it's anyone's game. I graduated from Rowlett this past June and only went to state once which was in 2010. We were so excited because we didn't make it in 2008 because Area C only had 19 bands make 1s in their region. We got first by a longshot in prelims and thought we had it in the bag, which explains our poor finals performance, therefore, being the alternate band... No one in the band in 2010 had ever been a participant in the SMC and had not experienced the sound of the Alamodome, the pressure of making finals, and the nerves that come with the contest. However, their show this year is awesome, great music and kick-butt marching. It's what we've always been known for, marching and playing our butts off. But now that there are light up props and better marching and playing than I've ever seen outta my alma matter, I and what everyone else should do, is give them a shot, being last in prelims should hopefully give them an advantage over anyone else. GOOD LUCK ROWLETT!!! GIVE 'EM heck!!! I'll be cheering you on in the stands.

[TxRaider13]

  Rowlett MEB said:

Coming from Rowlett, sadly, your question is fairly true... We always aimed to make state but once we got there, we soon realized it's anyone's game. I graduated from Rowlett this past June and only went to state once which was in 2010. We were so excited because we didn't make it in 2008 because Area C only had 19 bands make 1s in their region. We got first by a longshot in prelims and thought we had it in the bag, which explains our poor finals performance, therefore, being the alternate band... No one in the band in 2010 had ever been a participant in the SMC and had not experienced the sound of the Alamodome, the pressure of making finals, and the nerves that come with the contest. However, their show this year is awesome, great music and kick-butt marching. It's what we've always been known for, marching and playing our butts off. But now that there are light up props and better marching and playing than I've ever seen outta my alma matter, I and what everyone else should do, is give them a shot, being last in prelims should hopefully give them an advantage over anyone else. GOOD LUCK ROWLETT!!! GIVE 'EM heck!!! I'll be cheering you on in the stands.

 

 

Careful. Going last does have an advantage in some parts, but also a negative side... I'll keep it short, I have always liked Rowlett, as long as they play/march their butts off and leave it all on the field in prelims, they should be fine. Every band will be bringing every thing they have in prelims, and Rowlett should be able to go toe-to-toe with these bands. Hope to see them live for prelims/finals, I have them predicted to be in finals...

[TxRaider13]

My night is made, halo 4, state in the morning, and I.just noticed Duncanville is staying in the hotel next.my apartment, hells yeah

[Xenon]

  TxRaider13 said:

My night is made, halo 4, state in the morning, and I.just noticed Duncanville is staying in the hotel next.my apartment, hells yeah

I had the Canton band in my hotel last night.

[Star21]

The Canton band was all over inhabiting my floor at my hotel lol. Congrats to them by the way for their finish! Cant wait to see finals tonight!

[Sousapwn10]

  Star21 said:

The Canton band was all over inhabiting my floor at my hotel lol. Congrats to them by the way for their finish! Cant wait to see finals tonight!

 

Assuming Rowlett does what we know they can do, does anyone have any finals predictions based off of what we've seen today, 1-10?

[T.Stechnij]

  Sousapwn10 said:

Assuming Rowlett does what we know they can do, does anyone have any finals predictions based off of what we've seen today, 1-10?

 

1. Marcus

 

2. James Bowie

 

3.The Woodlands

 

4. Duncanville

 

5. Hebron

 

6.Claudia Taylor Johnson

 

7. LD Bell

 

8. Westlake

 

9. Berkner

 

10. Coppell

 

Then it is followed by Rowlett, Reagan and Plano East. I dunno though! Everyone was great. It is worth mentioning that I also didn't see the last block.

Edited November 7, 2012 by T.Stechnij

[whitewing09]

I can't wait to see this pan out!

[Nosagi]

Preliminaries Results

1 Marcus HS, Flower Mound 1 1 1 2 1 6

2 Bell HS, Hurst 8 7 6 3 3 27

3 Reagan HS, San Antonio 2 17 2 6 6 33

4 Coppell HS, Coppell 3 8 8 1 15 35

5 Hebron HS, Carrollton 4 5 5 11 13 38

6 Bowie HS, Austin 5 4 19 10 4 42

7 Westlake HS, Austin 6 3 11 9 20 49

8 Johnson HS, San Antonio 9 16 15 4 5 49

9 Berkner HS, Richardson 11 2 13 13 10 49

10 The Woodlands HS, The Woodlands 20 11 9 8 2 50

11 Keller H S, Keller 17 22 4 5 11 59

12 Spring HS, Spring 13 10 7 12 17 59

13 Richland H S, N Richland Hills 12 18 12 7 14 63

14 Duncanville HS, Duncanville 19 19 3 15 12 68

15 Lake Travis H S, Austin 21 6 21 16 18 82

16 Rowlett H S, Rowlett 7 13 24 24 16 84

17 Brazoswood HS, Clute 10 9 17 25 26 87

18 Dickinson H S, Dickinson 18 14 14 14 29 89

19 Plano East Sr HS, Plano 24 15 10 32 9 90

20 Cy-Fair H S, Cypress 14 24 23 28 8 97

21 Hendrickson HS, Pflugerville 16 26 32 20 7 101

22 O'Connor HS, Helotes 15 20 18 18 32 103

23 Pearland H S, Pearland 22 21 20 26 25 114

24 Clear Lake HS, Houston 23 12 30 21 33 119

25 Langham Creek H S, Houston 26 36 16 17 31 126

26 Clear Brook HS, Friendswood 28 27 22 22 27 126

27 Fossil Ridge HS, Keller 25 33 27 27 19 131

28 Clements HS, Sugar Land 33 35 26 19 22 135

29 Coronado HS, El Paso 30 23 29 31 24 137

30 Central HS, Fort Worth 27 31 25 23 35 141

31 Seven Lakes H S, Katy 29 34 37 29 21 150

32 Harlingen HS, Harlingen 31 28 34 33 28 154

33 Donna HS, Donna 34 25 28 34 34 155

34 San Benito HS, San Benito 32 29 31 30 37 159

35 Hanna H S, Brownsville 38 32 38 35 23 166

36 Lopez HS, Brownsville 36 30 36 36 30 168

37 Harlingen South HS, Harlingen 35 37 33 37 36 178

38 United HS, Laredo 37 38 35 38 38 186

 

Last # is composite score

from left to right judges are: Beatty, Caneva, Clemmer, Hudson, Wessels

 

Quick comments:

Reagan (3) and Coppell (4) are higher than expected

Bowie (6), CTJ (8), and The Woodlands (10) are lower than expected

Spring (12) and Duncanville (14) nowhere to be found!

Edited November 7, 2012 by Nosagi

[Donezo]

Wow. Never thought I'd see the day when Duncanville would be out of state finals. Just goes to show that you have to expect the unexpected at SMBC!

 

Also, this has to be up there in terms of all time wackiest State prelims ordinals spread, though I kind of saw it coming after this panel's indecision on 3A Finals last night.

[Nosagi]

  Donezo said:

Also, this has to be up there in terms of all time wackiest State prelims ordinals spread, though I kind of saw it coming after this panel's indecision on 3A Finals last night.

100% agree with you, last night was crazy! Hopefully finals will be a little more in tact.

[Bowie Clarinet Mom (2015)]

  Nosagi said:

Preliminaries Results

1 Marcus HS, Flower Mound 1 1 1 2 1 6

2 Bell HS, Hurst 8 7 6 3 3 27

3 Reagan HS, San Antonio 2 17 2 6 6 33

4 Coppell HS, Coppell 3 8 8 1 15 35

5 Hebron HS, Carrollton 4 5 5 11 13 38

6 Bowie HS, Austin 5 4 19 10 4 42

7 Westlake HS, Austin 6 3 11 9 20 49

8 Johnson HS, San Antonio 9 16 15 4 5 49

9 Berkner HS, Richardson 11 2 13 13 10 49

10 The Woodlands HS, The Woodlands 20 11 9 8 2 50

11 Keller H S, Keller 17 22 4 5 11 59

12 Spring HS, Spring 13 10 7 12 17 59

13 Richland H S, N Richland Hills 12 18 12 7 14 63

14 Duncanville HS, Duncanville 19 19 3 15 12 68

15 Lake Travis H S, Austin 21 6 21 16 18 82

16 Rowlett H S, Rowlett 7 13 24 24 16 84

17 Brazoswood HS, Clute 10 9 17 25 26 87

18 Dickinson H S, Dickinson 18 14 14 14 29 89

19 Plano East Sr HS, Plano 24 15 10 32 9 90

20 Cy-Fair H S, Cypress 14 24 23 28 8 97

21 Hendrickson HS, Pflugerville 16 26 32 20 7 101

22 O'Connor HS, Helotes 15 20 18 18 32 103

23 Pearland H S, Pearland 22 21 20 26 25 114

24 Clear Lake HS, Houston 23 12 30 21 33 119

25 Langham Creek H S, Houston 26 36 16 17 31 126

26 Clear Brook HS, Friendswood 28 27 22 22 27 126

27 Fossil Ridge HS, Keller 25 33 27 27 19 131

28 Clements HS, Sugar Land 33 35 26 19 22 135

29 Coronado HS, El Paso 30 23 29 31 24 137

30 Central HS, Fort Worth 27 31 25 23 35 141

31 Seven Lakes H S, Katy 29 34 37 29 21 150

32 Harlingen HS, Harlingen 31 28 34 33 28 154

33 Donna HS, Donna 34 25 28 34 34 155

34 San Benito HS, San Benito 32 29 31 30 37 159

35 Hanna H S, Brownsville 38 32 38 35 23 166

36 Lopez HS, Brownsville 36 30 36 36 30 168

37 Harlingen South HS, Harlingen 35 37 33 37 36 178

38 United HS, Laredo 37 38 35 38 38 186

 

Last # is composite score

from left to right judges are: Beatty, Caneva, Clemmer, Hudson, Wessels

 

Quick comments:

Reagan (3) and Coppell (4) are higher than expected

Bowie (6), CTJ (8), and The Woodlands (10) are lower than expected

Spring (12) and Duncanville (14) nowhere to be found!

 

ok help a mom out here, what do these scores represent?

[Rubisco]

Just by looking at who is on the judging panel tonight, I'm thinking there will probably be some pretty radical placement shifts after finals. I find the order of the top 10 after prelims very, VERY bizarre. And no Duncanville in finals! What?! Who saw that coming? I don't think they've ever missed a finals.

[Steeldrum]

Who is the judging panel for finals, a different group than prelims?

[Mellophone77]

  Bowie Freshman Mom said:

ok help a mom out here, what do these scores represent?

 

General gist of it is: after the school name you have the five placements from the five judges at today's contest (so, the lower the better) and the sixth number is just the five numbers added up. Band with the lowest score wins.

 

Edit: As for what they represent, pretty much just where the judge ranked them in terms with the other groups.

 

My thoughts on the results? Wow. Duncanville out of finals? And their scores were consistently out of finals? I missed the performance so maybe this isn't as surprising as I think it is, but dang. Never thought I'd see the day. Reagan third? After San Antonio last weekend I thought them medaling was a bit of a stretch but apparently its quite possible. Johnson in finals? Awesome! Always great seeing a new face.

 

And as per usual, scores seem a little all over the place. The only one that confuses me is Plano East's 9 and 32 in visual I can understand 10-15 variation but 23 spot difference? Little crazy.

 

And of course we still have finals. And since this is state, I'm expecting quite a few placement differences. Really looking forward to the webcast!!

Edited November 7, 2012 by Mellophone77

[takigan]

  Bowie Freshman Mom said:

ok help a mom out here, what do these scores represent?

 

2 Bell HS, Hurst 8 7 6 3 3 27

 

LD Bell received a ranking of 8th, 7th and 6th from the 3 music judges. They received 3rd place from both marching judges and the running total of the numbers from all 5 judges is 27. Lowest number = 1st place. And so on....

[Donezo]

  Rubisco said:

Just by looking at who is on the judging panel tonight, I'm thinking there will probably be some pretty radical placement shifts after finals. I find the order of the top 10 after prelims very, VERY bizarre. And no Duncanville in finals! What?! Who saw that coming? I don't think they've ever missed a finals.

 

No kidding. When my friend called me and told me that Reagan was 3rd and The Woodlands was 10th, I thought she was joking. (Nothing against either group. I thought they would both be in, but in opposite positions.)

 

Keller was soooo close to being the first Area A band in decades to make it to 5A State Finals. Wow.

[clarineticorn]

Daniel Valdez incorrectly stated in the live blog that it's CTJ's first time at state. We made state in 2010 with You Are -- placing thirteenth, just behind Reagan. It's the first year Johnson's made finals, though.

 

Sadly, I managed to get distracted and I missed Johnson's finals performance But I'm still excited to see finals results. Prelims were a bit shocking, to say the least. I never would've thought that TWHS would be 10th...or Bowie in 6th.