Xenon Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Congratulations to Birdville and Keller Central for doing a great job representing Texas at the BOA St Louis Super Regional! And congratulations to Keller Central for making Finals! Prelims Results:Class A:1) Union City, TN2) Marshall, MN3) Berryhill, OKOutstanding Music Performance: Union City, TNOutstanding Visual Performance: Union City, TNOutstanding General Effect: Union City,TNClass AA:1) Bellevue West, NE2) Air Academy, CO3) Marian Catholic, ILOutstanding Music Performance: Air Academy, CO Outstanding Visual Performance: Bellevue West, NEOutstanding General Effect: Bellevue West, NE Class AAA:1) Rosemount, MN2) Prospect, IL3) Irondale, MNOutstanding Music Performance: Prospect, ILOutstanding Visual Performance: Prospect, ILOutstanding General Effect: Rosemount, MNClass AAAA:1) Broken Arrow, OK2) Owasso, OK3) Blue Springs, MOOutstanding Music Performance: Broken Arrow, OKOutstanding Visual Performance: Broken Arrow, OKOutstanding General Effect: Broken Arrow, OKFinalists:Blue Springs, MOBroken Arrow, OKProspect, ILMarian Catholic, ILIrondale, MNRosemount, MNBellevue West, NEO'Fallon Township, ILBentonville, ARJenks, OKAir Academy, COOwasso, OKKeller Central, TXKickapoo, MO Quote
Raidermarcher87 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Finals Results 89.35 - Broken Arrow H.S., OK 85.10 - Blue Springs H.S., MO 84.50 - Owasso H.S., OK 83.35 - Marian Catholic H.S., IL 83.25 - Keller Central H.S., TX 82.10 - Prospect H.S., IL 81.70 - Rosemount H.S., MN 81.05 - Irondale H.S., MN 79.25 - Bellevue West H.S., NE 78.65 - O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 78.35 - Jenks H.S., OK 77.20 - Kickapoo H.S., MO 77.10 - Air Academy H.S., CO 76.95 - Bentonville H.S., AR Outstanding Music Performance - Broken Arrow H.S., OK Outstanding Visual Performance - Prospect H.S., IL Outstanding General Effect - Broken Arrow H.S., OK Quote
Statebound Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 On 10/20/2013 at 5:36 AM, Raidermarcher87 said: Finals Results 89.35 - Broken Arrow H.S., OK 85.10 - Blue Springs H.S., MO 84.50 - Owasso H.S., OK 83.35 - Marian Catholic H.S., IL 83.25 - Keller Central H.S., TX 82.10 - Prospect H.S., IL 81.70 - Rosemount H.S., MN 81.05 - Irondale H.S., MN 79.25 - Bellevue West H.S., NE 78.65 - O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 78.35 - Jenks H.S., OK 77.20 - Kickapoo H.S., MO 77.10 - Air Academy H.S., CO 76.95 - Bentonville H.S., AR Outstanding Music Performance - Broken Arrow H.S., OK Outstanding Visual Performance - Prospect H.S., IL Outstanding General Effect - Broken Arrow H.S., OK I thought that Keller Central had a really nice show at BOA Allen last week and I remember thinking that they had an outside chance at top 5. Plus I really liked the white uniforms with red plumes. Awesome...congratulations for your hard work! BTW--that 89.35 score for Broken Arrow is absurdly high. Reputation points? I'm not sure that even Marcus has won something by over 4 points. Quote
justabandkid94 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 On 10/20/2013 at 4:05 PM, Statebound said: I thought that Keller Central had a really nice show at BOA Allen last week and I remember thinking that they had an outside chance at top 5. Plus I really liked the white uniforms with red plumes. Awesome...congratulations for your hard work! BTW--that 89.35 score for Broken Arrow is absurdly high. Reputation points? I'm not sure that even Marcus has won something by over 4 points. I'd have to guess it's because Broken Arrow is ending their season much earlier than usual-- their show, from what I hear, isn't as demanding as usual. They're skipping out on Indy to go play at Carnegie Hall in the spring. Quote
whitewing09 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I watched Keller Central perform on live cast and I thought that they looked rather awesome! I'll back them for finals at BOA SA. Quote
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 On 10/20/2013 at 4:05 PM, Statebound said: I thought that Keller Central had a really nice show at BOA Allen last week and I remember thinking that they had an outside chance at top 5. Plus I really liked the white uniforms with red plumes. Awesome...congratulations for your hard work! BTW--that 89.35 score for Broken Arrow is absurdly high. Reputation points? I'm not sure that even Marcus has won something by over 4 points. Did you watch the finals? Broken Arrow was just that much better than Blue Springs. I don't think the score was absurdly high. They earned it! Besides, Broken Arrow has proven themselves a consistently better band than Marcus, so the comparison to Marcus' ranges over other bands is not a valid one in this case. I'm not taking anything away from Marcus' impressive record by any means, but Broken Arrow got what they deserved. Quote
Rubisco Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 To the best of my knowledge, the one time BA and Marcus competed against each other, Marcus came out on top (GN 09). Not sure that makes BA a consistently better band than Marcus. Just because Marcus doesn't go to GN often doesn't mean they probably wouldn't have won it twice already if they had gone every year. Xenon 1 Quote
~ME~ Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 On 10/21/2013 at 5:15 PM, Rubisco said: To the best of my knowledge, the one time BA and Marcus competed against each other, Marcus came out on top (GN 09). Not sure that makes BA a consistently better band than Marcus. Just because Marcus doesn't go to GN often doesn't mean they probably wouldn't have won it twice already if they had gone every year. I agree. *cough* 2007 and 2012 *cough* Quote
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 On 10/21/2013 at 5:15 PM, Rubisco said: To the best of my knowledge, the one time BA and Marcus competed against each other, Marcus came out on top (GN 09). Not sure that makes BA a consistently better band than Marcus. Just because Marcus doesn't go to GN often doesn't mean they probably wouldn't have won it twice already if they had gone every year. It also doesn't mean they would have won had they been there. Broken Arrow has attended 11 times and won twice. Marcus went once and was 4th. We can only measure what has been done at the Grand National level and use those metrics. See Below: (Place, Score, School, Year) 2 95.70 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2012 1 95.95 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2011 2 96.25 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2010 6 92.75 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2009 6 93.35 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2008 6 91.85 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2007 1 96.75 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2006 12 86.00 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2001 12 85.80 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2000 7 90.45 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 1999 11 88.35 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 1998 4 94.50 Marcus H.S., TX 2009 I'm not taking anything away from Marcus, but was just stating the fact that Broken Arrow has proven themselves -- not by my opinions, but by their accomplishments and that their recent score in St. Louis of 89.35 was not an absurdly high score for them. But in my opinion, a band with 11 GN finals appearances has proven themselves a better band than a band with 1. It doesn't matter what may have happened IF Marcus had gone because they didn't go. I personally think they would have done well after 2004 which, by the way, was the first time that they made the finals (12th) in San Antonio. In 2003, they were 21st in the prelims and didn't make the SA finals. Again, I have nothing but respect for Marcus. Their stellar record the last 8 or 9 years is amazing and I can't wait to see how well they do in the GN's (as well as the other 4 TX bands)! Quote
whitewing09 Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 On 10/22/2013 at 3:33 AM, Hard Core Band Fan said: It also doesn't mean they would have won had they been there. Broken Arrow has attended 11 times and won twice. Marcus went once and was 4th. We can only measure what has been done at the Grand National level and use those metrics. See Below: (Place, Score, School, Year) 2 95.70 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2012 1 95.95 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2011 2 96.25 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2010 6 92.75 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2009 6 93.35 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2008 6 91.85 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2007 1 96.75 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2006 12 86.00 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2001 12 85.80 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2000 7 90.45 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 1999 11 88.35 Broken Arrow H.S., OK 1998 4 94.50 Marcus H.S., TX 2009 I'm not taking anything away from Marcus, but was just stating the fact that Broken Arrow has proven themselves -- not by my opinions, but by their accomplishments and that their recent score in St. Louis of 89.35 was not an absurdly high score for them. But in my opinion, a band with 11 GN finals appearances has proven themselves a better band than a band with 1. It doesn't matter what may have happened IF Marcus had gone because they didn't go. I personally think they would have done well after 2004 which, by the way, was the first time that they made the finals (12th) in San Antonio. In 2003, they were 21st in the prelims and didn't make the SA finals. Again, I have nothing but respect for Marcus. Their stellar record the last 8 or 9 years is amazing and I can't wait to see how well they do in the GN's (as well as the other 4 TX bands)! Shouldn't we point out that a band can't prove itself "better" just from the fact that it has the means or desire to attend a gnats every year? They're both great bands. Let's leave it at that. Quote
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