Grand Nats in Texas!!!

[euro_euph06]

Who thinks that they should be moved to Texas for one year to allow for more participation of the bands and audience? I think that there would be a higher percentage of Texas bands to make finals.

[Xukaniz]

Obviously there would be more bands in finals, but could you imagine the controversy between BOA and UIL, as if there isnt enough already? Half of the bands would be leaving UIL to do BOA.

 

Plus, the fact that BOA headquarters is located in Indianapolis isnt going to help BOA Grand Nats move to Texas.

[euro_euph06]

I am speaking hypothetically.

[xMonicax]

They should move it around. Its Grand Nationals, not Grand Indianationals.... its gives the Indy bands a big advantage.

[manuel_pablo]

  xMonicax said:

They should move it around. Its Grand Nationals, not Grand Indianationals.... its gives the Indy bands a big advantage.

I agree

[mindfulmusician]

  manuel_pablo said:

I agree

I definitely agree...I think that if Grand Nats were moved around, we would be able to see great bands that might not have the money to travel to Indianapolis. Yay for good poor bands!

 

- mindfulmusician

[get0verit]

Grand Nationals will never be in Texas because the only perennial finalists that would even make finals would be Carmel, Marian Catholic (only because of politics), and Lawrence Central. The rest would all be from Texas.

[mnkyman]

^what do u mean cause of politics?..

 

marian catholic is has a great band..go read how many times there name is on the eagle..i know i was amazed when i was looking at the trophy...they are on there like 8 times..

 

but yeah that would be nice if nats moved around..not just texas..

 

but instead they should have something like playoffs..

likea fter super regionals they have something like

 

preliminary regionals...north, south, east, west, centra..5 locations...and the bands to make it to finals there..would go on to nationals or something like that..

 

that would be cool..something like sports playoffs

[stewiemylove]

  xMonicax said:

They should move it around. Its Grand Nationals, not Grand Indianationals.... its gives the Indy bands a big advantage.

ha that was pretty clever!

yeah, they should move it around, but not JUST to texas, put it other places too, ya know?

[coolest_kid_ever]

^^ that post was meant for me to say. i was logged in on another user. teehee.

[Lustra.exe]

It would be too ideal. it would give bands all over the nation equal oppertunities to make appearances and enjoy the expirience of Grand Nationals. but the wont happen and only the richest bands that arnt a skip and a hop away from RCA dome will be able to go. there's a problem with that when the one of the best marching band states is only sending 3 bands compared to others that are sending 9 and 10+. moving the location of GN would be a good idea to say the least.

[R e a g a n.clarinet]

I agree. Indiana bands have a ton of sets of hashes that confused me throughout our show. "Wait, is that our hash? Wait, wait. Oops." I said in my mind on one set. I think it confuses a lot of out of state bands.

[Lustra.exe]

in contradiction to my previous post:

 

moving the BOA GN would be like moving the College World Series from Omaha. its tradition almost. its been there for years, why change it now? the RCA Dome is an outstanding venue to hold such an event of this magnitude. Texas bands have won year after year. distance has not been an obsticle for these great bands to compete.

[euro_euph06]

  Lustra.exe said:

in contradiction to my previous post:

 

moving the BOA GN would be like moving the College World Series from Omaha. its tradition almost. its been there for years, why change it now? the RCA Dome is an outstanding venue to hold such an event of this magnitude. Texas bands have won year after year. distance has not been an obsticle for these great bands to compete.

Only two texas bands have won Grand Nats: Spring (1993) and Westfield (2003).

 

Indiana has had 5 title years (Carmel, Lawrence Central (twice), Center Grove, Chesterton).

Illinois has had 8 (7 of them going to Marian Catholic , 1 to Lake Park).

Florida has only one, J.M. Tate.

Pennsylvania has 1, Norwin.

North Carolina has 3 (all going to Rocky Mount in 83,84,86).

Michagan has 3 (all going to PCEP)

Ohio has 1, Centerville.

Georgia has 2 (both going to Lassister).

 

 

I'm pretty sure that distance has been an obstacle for Texas bands since most of them are allowed only 1 out-of-state trip per every 2 years. Most of them would rather go to the Midwest Clinic, National Concert Band Festival, Rose Bowl Parade, Disney, etc. in place of Grand Nats. I think that it is time for Texas to shine in the Grand National spotlight.

[oh_snap44]

I can't agree more.

I don't mean this in any way against the bands who competed this year or in the years before...

Wouldn't it make it more competative to move GN around? I mean, you can't deny the fact that the bands up north have the priviledge of going to Nats every year. Year after year, they have the chance to showcase themselves at GN, while bands from farther away can only come every few years, if at all.

Besides, wouldn't the entire competition be sweeter if you knew you were competing against ALL of the best bands in the country...not just the same ones from that general area?

 

Whoever had the idea to use the superregionals as a way to find the top bands to go to GN...I second that...good idea

[Lustra.exe]

  euro_euph06 said:

Only two texas bands have won Grand Nats: Spring (1993) and Westfield (2003).

 

I'm pretty sure that distance has been an obstacle for Texas bands since most of them are allowed only 1 out-of-state trip per every 2 years. Most of them would rather go to the Midwest Clinic, National Concert Band Festival, Rose Bowl Parade, Disney, etc. in place of Grand Nats. I think that it is time for Texas to shine in the Grand National spotlight.

whoops, i guess i had a fasle impression. my mistake.

 

i agree though. i have two opinions and i think my first one out weighs the second.

it's simply not fair for our bands when we clearly have superior marching band support in texas compared to many other states. im not boasting texas to be the greatest, but we're up there.

[JJJMGE]

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^what do u mean cause of politics?..

 

marian catholic is has a great band..go read how many times there name is on the eagle..i know i was amazed when i was looking at the trophy...they are on there like 8 times..

 

dude, he's talking about because of the fact marian catholic has won nats so many times, theyre practically guaranteed a spot into finals year after year no matter how badly they do.

 

It's common sense to move Grand Nats around. I'm suprised they havent done it already. Just because the Olympics originated in Greece doesnt mean it's there every year. And of all places it needs to be held in Texas for once. And i think u should have to meet a certain qualification to compete at nationals. Every year there's random bands from the indianapolis area who dont know what the heck theyre doing and just go the nats just for something to do, and all they do is clog up prelims and cant even score up to 50 points. It's stupid and a waste of the judge's time. I think if a band wins a super regional or scored up to a certain score at a competition, they should be sent to nationals w/ BOA's financial aid or something. It makes sense to make a NATIONAL COMPETITION competitive w/ bands from all over the NATION. Why even host it then?

 

i dont know...w/e

[Visualstrm]

  R e a g a n.clarinet said:

I agree. Indiana bands have a ton of sets of hashes that confused me throughout our show. "Wait, is that our hash? Wait, wait. Oops." I said in my mind on one set. I think it confuses a lot of out of state bands.

Indiana does not have/use a ton of hash marks. They use one set. The RCA Dome is a professional stadium that hosts high school, college, and pro events..all of which use different hash marks...thus the multiple hash marks in this stadium.

 

Hosting Grand Nationals in Texas would be awesome and would definately shake the results up a bit. But, its not going to happen. BOA is based in Indianapolis and has a great usage agreement with the RCA Dome. Furthermore, BOA has stated that Indianapolis is the "center" of the marching activity with 80% of the countries competitive marching bands within a days drive of the city. There are many bands in Indiana (and within that days drive) that do not participate in BOA as all.

 

I'd love to see it moved around, but its not going to happen anytime soon...so fundraise away, people

 

Obviously, there are many bands that are not that close and/or do not have the funds to go every year, but that is one of the reasons for the Regionals and Super Regionals. To give more programs the BOA experience.

 

Someone mentioned something about the rich schools in Indiana that are close to Indy...that's funny...there isn't as much money as you think...and its not all that different than anywhere else, really. Funding to schools in Indiana has even been cut with the newest Govoner. Booster organizations are really the supporters of these programs.

[Visualstrm]

  JJJMGE said:

And i think u should have to meet a certain qualification to compete at nationals. Every year there's random bands from the indianapolis area who dont know what the heck theyre doing and just go the nats just for something to do, and all they do is clog up prelims and cant even score up to 50 points. It's stupid and a waste of the judge's time.

Wow...nice perspective on the activity. Way to support your fellow perfomers!

 

It's attitudes like yours that give bad names to progams.

[Fortisimo]

  Visualstrm said:

Wow...nice perspective on the activity. Way to support your fellow perfomers!

 

It's attitudes like yours that give bad names to progams.

Are you saying that the system for UIL's state competition gives the program a bad name then?

[Dynasty]

  Fortisimo said:

Are you saying that the system for UIL's state competition gives the program a bad name then?

No, he is not. He is saying that the cocky attitudes of individuals reflects on the quality of their band program. (and well duh, thats true) No one is talking about the BOA or UIL organizations.

 

Anyways, I don't see any differences in UIL and BOA and who enters... A ton of bands compete at the lower levels, and are gradually whittled down to the top 10 or 12 as the case may be.

[Dynasty]

And JJJMGE, Grand Nats will ALWAYS be in Indianapolis because that is BOA's headquarters. Always. I promise.

 

The slightest chance of it getting moved to another stadium (not a different city) is when the RCA Dome is torn down and the new Colts field is built in a couple of years.

[Fortisimo]

you have to admit, though, Grand Nats in Texas would be pretty amazing. Our band might would even go then...

[mnkyman]

  JJJMGE said:

dude, he's talking about because of the fact marian catholic has won nats so many times, theyre practically guaranteed a spot into finals year after year no matter how badly they do.

thats not true AT ALL..

 

just cause a band is good one year..and they do bad the next there not still gauranteed a spot..

 

look at westfield for example...

 

we won gran nats in 03..

this year we barely made finals for arlington..

 

 

 

dont say it like the competition is rigged..cause its not..

 

 

everyband...(in a judging perspective) has a pretty much equal chance at finals or winning for that fact.

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yeah band boosters and fundraisers along with the students themselfs paying..is was takes them to nats..

 

 

heck out trip account was 400+ dollars more than usual when we went to nationals

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the fact that 80% of the competitive bands are in indy doesnt reeally mean much when a majority of the gran nats finalists are from outside of indy..

 

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yeah all the texas regionals have 2 hashes...

 

while up at indy there is 3 sets of hashes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^darn responded to four different things

[actualgirltrombone]

i remember at uil this year, you could not see the hashes. like... they were light blue and practically invisible. did anyone else notice that? (region 18 UIL at the palace in round rock...)