Abbie123 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Predictions:Zombie Apocalypse (maybe not). Sit back, eat ice cream, enjoy the show ('s). Is there a live stream going on? Quote
Abbie123 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 On 10/27/2014 at 2:54 AM, band78254 said: He's O'Connor high school band's prelim show for Area G "2014 Area G Champs": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtd9DiSem9g Link to PantherBand site: http://thepantherband.com/ DID I SEE PLUME CHANGE? AWWWW... Quote
MarchingBands20 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 What do you guys think about Duncanville? Quote
Fned88 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 lthink Haltom has a shot at finals, they had an incredible run Saturday and edged out LD Bell. TXMarchingMadness87654 1 Quote
Brassman82 Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 I think Duncanville will slip into finals, 3rd to 14th. Yeah right. They should be extremely motivated to make a comeback. Quote
bxOxAxUIL Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Dark Horses for this year seem to be Bowie, CT Johnson, and Robald Reagan. Quote
Brassman82 Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 The thing that makes everything even more difficult is that judging for UIL is completely different from BOA. Quote
NTXBandFan Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 On 10/28/2014 at 1:33 AM, Jellyfishes said: I think Marcus(3), Bowie(1), Hebron(4), CTJ(5) Reagan(2), Woodlands(7), Westlake(8), Cedar Ridge(10), Coppell(6) and Flower Mound(9) will likely make finals. I could see Friendswood and Keller right on the border, though. Sad not to see L.D. Bell, I'm sure they would be near the top of finals. The statement about Bell being near the top of would make me think you would rank Flower Mound higher since they beat Bell in 2 contests this year. Quote
trombone98 Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 On 10/29/2014 at 10:13 PM, Jellyfishes said: Yeah, probably not. I feel like Flower Mound has vastly improved over the years and honestly, beating Bell in 2 contests this year means they would most likely do better than them again Quote
Astros Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 On 10/27/2014 at 6:21 PM, MarchingBands20 said: What do you guys think about Duncanville? Stephen Austin beat Friendswood at Lone Star Preview by 2 points. Quote
whitewing09 Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 On 10/29/2014 at 10:13 PM, Jellyfishes said: Yeah, probably not. It's probably time to accept that Bell isn't an elite band anymore (at least at the level of Marcus, Hebron, Bowie, CTJ, Reagan, TWHS). Given their performance this whole season, we can probably say they're more on the level of FloMo and they would have been, at best, a bottom five band for state finals and at worst a 10-15 band. kmarimba 1 Quote
Jackson1 Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 First off why the Bell bashing? They came in 5th in, arguably, one of the toughest areas there is in the state. I thought their show was awesome. Second Flomo took third so saying they are on Flomo's level would mean they are even with the third best band in area B. Great program, great band. Bands have good years and not so good years. Their design and execution is great. I will say they are more geared towards BOA and am looking forward to seeing them there this weekend. Good luck to all bands!!!! Quote
CrownMan18 Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 On 10/30/2014 at 12:02 AM, whitewing09 said: It's probably time to accept that Bell isn't an elite band anymore (at least at the level of Marcus, Hebron, Bowie, CTJ, Reagan, TWHS). Given their performance this whole season, we can probably say they're more on the level of FloMo and they would have been, at best, a bottom five band for state finals and at worst a 10-15 band. I find that usually when people "accept" that a band isn't an elite band they tend to be surprised when that band does much better than expected. We should all keep an open mind and remember that anything can happen with these contests. txbandfansa 1 Quote
Vakarian Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 This is something I've been pondering for a while - what is it about area B that so ubiquitously produces excellent bands? Is it the proximity to UNT? While I agree with the popular choice for top three (Marcus, Hebron, and Bowie) I can't help but always be floored by ALL of the talent Texas puts out. There's nothing like Texas marching bands! Quote
NTXBandFan Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 On 10/28/2014 at 5:52 PM, bxOxAxUIL said: Dark Horses for this year seem to be Bowie, CT Johnson, and Robald Reagan. I think Coppell and Flower Mound are in the mix too. If Bell was in it, they'd be a contender. Why not the band that beat them in Denton and Area? Quote
whitewing09 Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 On 10/30/2014 at 12:39 AM, Jackson1 said: First off why the Bell bashing? They came in 5th in, arguably, one of the toughest areas there is in the state. I thought their show was awesome. Second Flomo took third so saying they are on Flomo's level would mean they are even with the third best band in area B. Great program, great band. Bands have good years and not so good years. Their design and execution is great. I will say they are more geared towards BOA and am looking forward to seeing them there this weekend. Good luck to all bands!!!! I'm not necessarily bashing them or FloMo, but maybe I was too matter o' fact. I think that both are great bands on absolute terms. Just in relative terms (keep in mind relative to the very top bands in Texas) I don't see either band in the top 5. Yes they were in a competitive, but just looking at the ordinal drop off between 2nd and 3rd in both prelims and finals, you could argue that Bell and FloMo weren't exactly at the same level as Hebron and Marcus. Then look outside of area B the fact that top 3 at area D (the area that consistently puts 3-4 bands in finals) were neck to neck (usually Bowie kind of just runs away with it and I would say that this is a pretty good year for Bowie) and apparently Coppell and Duncanville were quite close. It just seems to me that Bell wouldn't have made top 5 given the areas performances and that they wouldn't perform leaps and bounds better than FloMo. On 10/30/2014 at 12:43 AM, CrownMan18 said: I find that usually when people "accept" that a band isn't an elite band they tend to be surprised when that band does much better than expected. We should all keep an open mind and remember that anything can happen with these contests. More power to that band if they prove their critics wrong, but I am just working off of the recent trend that's show up in their placement at contest. On 10/30/2014 at 5:03 AM, Vakarian said: This is something I've been pondering for a while - what is it about area B that so ubiquitously produces excellent bands? Is it the proximity to UNT? While I agree with the popular choice for top three (Marcus, Hebron, and Bowie) I can't help but always be floored by ALL of the talent Texas puts out. There's nothing like Texas marching bands! Probably the same reason that Austin produces great bands. These areas are definitely on the more affluent side and they foster communities that appreciate the performing arts. Quote
slowbrass Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 Saw the finals breakdown by the judges from area b. Some weirdness, most notably Plano east taking second from one music judge, while only taking 7th from the other two. Not quite sure what he or she saw. Hebron also right on marcus' tail in ensemble visual, but lagging behind in individual visual. Quote
LKendrick Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 On 10/30/2014 at 5:00 PM, slowbrass said: Saw the finals breakdown by the judges from area b. Some weirdness, most notably Plano east taking second from one music judge, while only taking 7th from the other two. Not quite sure what he or she saw. Hebron also right on marcus' tail in ensemble visual, but lagging behind in individual visual. There's no individual captions, all 5 judges are up top. No field judges. Quote
slowbrass Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 On 10/30/2014 at 5:40 PM, LKendrick said: There's no individual captions, all 5 judges are up top. No field judges. Then that's even stranger, since the point discrepancy between the two visual judges was pretty darn big. Quote
LKendrick Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 On 10/30/2014 at 5:47 PM, slowbrass said: Then that's even stranger, since the point discrepancy between the two visual judges was pretty darn big. Agreed. slowbrass 1 Quote
principalagent Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 I really question how much the raw scores really matter in both the grand scheme of things and on a smaller level. Yeah, there's a rubric, but it just seems like judges throw out a semi-random number for the first couple of bands and work everyone else around that. Knowing the UIL rubric, I can't see any reason for that wide a discrepancy between Marcus and Hebron in any case. I sort of even think that the fact that only the ordinals matter for advancing actually encourages what seems like random raw scores with fairly improbable gaps. As long as the ten are in order, it effectively doesn't matter if you used 981-990 to rank the groups versus 1-10 or the full 1-1000. Quote
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