2017 Grand Nationals

[PSHSMom]

How many bands make the Semi's?

[AvonMom]

  On 11/10/2017 at 11:14 PM, PESHMom said:

How many bands make the Semi's?

Depends, minimum 30, max 46

[NTXBandFan]

  On 11/10/2017 at 11:19 PM, AvonMom said:

Depends, minimum 30, max 46

Min 30, Max 36...

if the top 2 from any of the classes aren't in the first 30, they get added.

Worst case scenario the 30 consists solely of bands from 1 class, which means 2 bands from each of the remaining 3 classes are added. 2x3 = 6 + 30=36

[PSHSMom]

  On 11/11/2017 at 12:16 AM, NTXBandFan said:

Min 30, Max 36...

if the top 2 from any of the classes aren't in the first 30, they get added.

Worst case scenario the 30 consists solely of bands from 1 class, which means 2 bands from each of the remaining 3 classes are added. 2x3 = 6 + 30=36

Thank You!

[AvonMom]

  On 11/11/2017 at 12:16 AM, NTXBandFan said:

Min 30, Max 36...

if the top 2 from any of the classes aren't in the first 30, they get added.

Worst case scenario the 30 consists solely of bands from 1 class, which means 2 bands from each of the remaining 3 classes are added. 2x3 = 6 + 30=36[/quote

 

My bad, the nerd in said 46. I thought that was wrong but thought they know more than me. Of course I could have heard it wrong too.

[NTXBandFan]

  On 11/11/2017 at 12:33 AM, AvonMom said:

  On 11/11/2017 at 12:16 AM, NTXBandFan said:

Min 30, Max 36...

if the top 2 from any of the classes aren't in the first 30, they get added.

Worst case scenario the 30 consists solely of bands from 1 class, which means 2 bands from each of the remaining 3 classes are added. 2x3 = 6 + 30=36[/quote

 

My bad, the nerd in said 46. I thought that was wrong but thought they know more than me. Of course I could have heard it wrong too.

He could've misspoke too.  It happens 

[Marching Observer]

It's from each day though that two bands from each class need represented. So technically the max would be 42 bands in semi finals. Say all of the 30 highest scoring groups were in AAAA. That means they would then take the two highest scoring groups in each class from EACH day. So 2 from A on Thurs AND Friday, etc for AA and AAA. I think most people believe we are expecting 37 or 38 to advance to semi's today.

[NTXBandFan]

  On 11/11/2017 at 1:14 AM, Marching Observer said:

It's from each day though that two bands from each class need represented. So technically the max would be 42 bands in semi finals. Say all of the 30 highest scoring groups were in AAAA. That means they would then take the two highest scoring groups in each class from EACH day. So 2 from A on Thurs AND Friday, etc for AA and AAA. I think most people believe we are expecting 37 or 38 to advance to semi's today.

Nope... they only take the top 2 it doesn’t matter which day.

 

 

  Quote

Section 12: Grand National Championships – Semi-Finals Competition and Awards

12.01 Following the presentation of Participation Awards, Semi-Finalists bands will be announced in random

order. Semi-Finalists will be determined by the process listed below.

Bands of America Official Procedures and Adjudication Handbook

10

Thirty (30) Bands (or more if necessary to accommodate participation by all classes) will advance to

Semi-Finals. Three criteria will be used to select Semi-Finalists Bands. They are as follows:

(a) The 11 highest scoring Bands in each Prelims (22 total), regardless of class will advance; plus

( The next eight (8) highest scoring Bands determined from a combination of remaining scores from

Prelims 1 and 2, regardless of class will advance; plus

© The two (2) highest scoring Bands from each of the four classes from each Prelims, should they not

already be among the Bands selected based on criteria a. and b. above, will advance.

In the event Bands shall be selected to compete in Semi-Finals only on the basis of their classification,

and not be among the Bands selected on the basis of scores from criteria (a) or ( above, such Bands

shall be slated by draw to perform in the earliest Performance times in Semi-Finals. The start time for

Semi-Finals shall be adjusted (earlier) as necessary to accommodate more than thirty (30) Performances.

[principalagent]

  On 11/11/2017 at 1:37 AM, NTXBandFan said:

Nope... they only take the top 2 it doesn’t matter which day.

 

 

 

You missed “each” in “each Prelims.” It’s max 42. 2 per day.

[NTXBandFan]

  On 11/11/2017 at 1:45 AM, principalagent said:

 

You missed “each” in “each Prelims.” It’s max 42. 2 per day.

Now I see it. Eyesight is failing me. Getting old sucks.

[Danpod]

Sweet Christ.

Prelims is done.  Semis announcement is coming up.  Stay tuned to the live blog!

[TxDragonDad]

The RRHS Dragon Band is ready to trap more field judges tomorrow!

 

https://makeagif.com/i/IXD1at

[scoobydoo]

A similar thing happened with RR 2013 Westlake finals competition. They trapped a judge on the field during the fire segment of their show. There's a you tube video of it. RR should make this a tradition.

[jmartin1056]

Any thoughts on our show?

[PSHSMom]

Hoping Greendale High School makes Semis. Very cool show and my Wisconsin roots want them in!

[Danpod]

Semi-Finalists, RANDOM ORDER:
 

Union

Mason

Broken Arrow

Castle

Fishers 

Marcus

Centerville 

Owasso

Center Grove 

O’Fallon Township

Winston Churchill

Dobyns-Bennett

The Woodlands

North Hardin

Carmel

Blue Springs

Avon

Homestead

Fort Mill

Round Rock

Flower Mound

Plymouth Canton

Franklin

Marian Catholic 

Walton

Archbishop Alter

DeSoto Central

Jenison

Beechwood

Adair County

Bassett

James F Byrnes

Lawrence Township

Norton

Central Hardin

Prosper 

Mililani

[Danpod]

All six Texas programs made it in!!!

[Txbandfan89]

  On 11/11/2017 at 3:45 AM, Danpod said:

All six Texas programs made it in!!!

Have you seen the draw board? In other words, do I have to get up early to see any of the TX bands?

[Danpod]

Texas Bands Performance Times (Eastern Time):

Prosper - 8:30 AM
The Woodlands - 10:30 AM
Round Rock - 11:00 AM
Marcus - 11:15 AM
Flower Mound - 2:00 PM
Winston Churchill - 3:15 PM

 

[PSHSMom]

so I guess this is a yes to getting up early! Prosper is 7:30 am our time!

[dylan123]

So i’m still a bit confused on how the schedule works so correct me if i’m wrong.

 

It goes...

Performing first - Others for class representation

Second - Next 8

Last - Top 22

[Fwguard17]

  On 11/11/2017 at 4:06 AM, Danpod said:

We can determine the following:

 

Marcus, Round Rock, and Winston Churchill made Top 11 on Thursday Prelims.

The Woodlands and Flower Mound made Top 11 on Friday Prelims.

Prosper made the Next 8.

This is not necessarily true, although I think it's probably a good assumption. Prosper is in the "bottom 8" of semis (aside from additional qualifiers for class representation). According to the BOA adjudication handbook, the top 11 each day, plus the next 8 top scoring groups are considered for the bottom 8. Out of those 30, the groups with the 8 lowest scores will be in the first four and last four performing groups.

 

This means that if the 19 top scoring prelliminary bands were on the same day, than the top 11 from that day would advance along with the next 8 (all from that same day). The top 11 from the other day would also advance. Then the lowest 8 advancing groups from those 30 would be in the bottom 8, in this case, all from the weaker day (but in the top 11 for their day)

 

That means that Churchill and Round Rock could very well have been in the 12-15 placement for Thursday but still in the top 22 for semis.

[TXMarchingMadness87654]

  On 11/11/2017 at 4:21 AM, dylan123 said:

Even more confused now tbh

Same. I'll need to shake a few more cobwebs loose to comprehend that....lol

[Danpod]

  On 11/11/2017 at 4:20 AM, Fwguard17 said:

This is not necessarily true, although I think it's probably a good assumption. Prosper is in the "bottom 8" of semis (aside from additional qualifiers for class representation). According to the BOA adjudication handbook, the top 11 each day, plus the next 8 top scoring groups are considered for the bottom 8. Out of those 30, the groups with the 8 lowest scores will be in the first four and last four performing groups.

 

This means that if the 19 top scoring prelliminary bands were on the same day, than the top 11 from that day would advance along with the next 8 (all from that same day). The top 11 from the other day would also advance. Then the lowest 8 advancing groups from those 30 would be in the bottom 8, in this case, all from the weaker day (but in the top 11 for their day)

 

That means that Churchill and Round Rock could very well have been in the 12-15 placement for Thursday but still in the top 22 for semis.

 

I went ahead and deleted that post since I want to be absolutely sure of the general placements.  

[dylan123]

Wait so does that mean that last year’s bronze medalist (William Mason) was in the “bottom 8”??? (at least i think they were bronze medalists)