Stefen Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 11/28/2017 at 2:38 AM, Dog885 said: I've always wondered, how can a show be more for UIL than BOA? I know that all UIL judges are in the box, but is that all? Quote
1998-2018 Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:13 PM, Stefen said: On 11/28/2017 at 2:38 AM, Dog885 said: I've always wondered, how can a show be more for UIL than BOA? I know that all UIL judges are in the box, but is that all? No, there is mush more. Both organizations have judging guidelines on their websites but this video is a concise synopsis. It will probably help as much, or maybe even more, than anything anyone here will tell you. justabandkid94 1 Quote
justabandkid94 Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 Actually, I think it’s more like: BOA: are we confused by the esotericism of this show? Champion! UIL: “this wasn’t as good as my 1928 military style marching band but I guess I’ll give it some credit” El Gato_01 and LeanderMomma 2 Quote
natertater21000 Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 9:32 PM, justabandkid94 said: Actually, I think it’s more like: BOA: are we confused by the esotericism of this show? Champion! UIL: “this wasn’t as good as my 1928 military style marching band but I guess I’ll give it some credit” Except that the weird esoteric show got 14th and the straight forward rainforest show got 1st last year. Omega and CTJBandPops 2 Quote
1998-2018 Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 9:41 PM, natertater21000 said: Except that the weird esoteric show got 14th and the straight forward rainforest show got 1st last year. If you think the rainforest show was straightforward you have probably been to at least one to many BOA competitions. Quote
natertater21000 Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 9:57 PM, 1998-2018 said: If you think the rainforest show was straightforward you have probably been to at least one to many BOA competitions. "Those who know us … a show about a rabbit … a show about dancing … a show about a lizard .. a show about a forrest … while there are some deep meanings … sometimes it’s face value." you can pull some deeper things for sure, but the show is for the most part very straightforward. CTJBandPops 1 Quote
Danpod Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 Area Results thread is updated with a little more pertinent information! Quote
CTJBandPops Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 9:57 PM, 1998-2018 said: If you think the rainforest show was straightforward you have probably been to at least one to many BOA competitions. or maybe not enough Quote
1998-2018 Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 10:05 PM, natertater21000 said: "Those who know us … a show about a rabbit … a show about dancing … a show about a lizard .. a show about a forrest … while there are some deep meanings … sometimes it’s face value." you can pull some deeper things for sure, but the show is for the most part very straightforward. Sure the themes are straightforward but that's not typical UIL drill and design out there. And I've chased the rabbit before. I know deeper meaning when I see it. Quote
1998-2018 Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 9:57 PM, 1998-2018 said: If you think the rainforest show was straightforward you have probably been to at least one to many BOA competitions. On 10/26/2018 at 10:15 PM, banddad84 said: or maybe not enough Was that directed at me? Surely you jest. Quote
natertater21000 Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 10:22 PM, 1998-2018 said: Sure the themes are straightforward but that's not typical UIL drill and design out there. And I've chased the rabbit before. I know deeper meaning when I see it. I never said it was typical uil drill or design. I said that in comparison to the esoteric show that leander put out, forest through the trees was much more straightforward. CTJBandPops 1 Quote
justabandkid94 Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I love how seriously people take me Quote
CTJBandPops Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 10:25 PM, 1998-2018 said: Was that directed at me? Surely you jest. dude - we all have our preferences - and mine happens to be for the shows like the Forrest through the Trees - and it would appear that the BOA judges all agreed with me last year - 3 times Quote
Popular Post LeanderMomma Posted October 27, 2018 Popular Post Posted October 27, 2018 Time to get out the popcorn. justabandkid94, jcbg and bandmom1823 3 Quote
TubaMomof1 Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 7:11 PM, Cityscapes said: Quite a few possibilities: Cy Fair Seven Lakes Pearland College Park Oak Ridge I would love to see some more Houston bands in the finals! Quote
1998-2018 Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/27/2018 at 2:57 AM, banddad84 said: dude - we all have our preferences - and mine happens to be for the shows like the Forrest through the Trees - and it would appear that the BOA judges all agreed with me last year - 3 times No problem, it's just that now we're really off track. The original question and answer were both about the difference between UIL and BOA judging. Getting into issues of placements within BOA completely misses the point. Quote
Omega Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 I mean if you want to talk about how they are judged just look at the sheets: UIL sheets give a lot of freedom to judges on what to consider within a few "sub-captions" so to speak. The BOA sheets ask guiding questions for judges to answer about a show. Look at captions themselves: no two judges in BOA have the same sheet except for in MGE. In UIL three judges have the same music sheet, two have the same visual sheet. Also UIL doesn't care about effect/design just performance. In BOA 60% of one's score is GE. In BOA judges are generally on the field or on (or close to) the 50 in the box. UIL puts music judges on the 50 and both 45's in the box and outs visual judges on the 30's. None on the field in UIL. In terms of how the shows are designed with BOA shows you see many programs take big risks for effect. In UIL you see many programs play it safer with highly accessable shows the judges can immediately get that are less risky (not always easier per say). The simplest way to sum it up is this: UIL cares how clean you look and sound from up top. BOA, while it does care about how clean you are on and above the field, they care a bit more about how visual and musical elements work to create an incredible emotional effect. LeanderMomma 1 Quote
Popular Post LeanderMomma Posted October 28, 2018 Popular Post Posted October 28, 2018 Call me crazy but I think Vista Ridge could take gold at State. Samuel Culper, gregorydf01, Omega and 1 other 4 Quote
principalagent Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/28/2018 at 1:19 AM, LeanderMomma said: Call me crazy but I think Vista Ridge could take gold at State. This is far from a crazy opinion. gregorydf01 1 Quote
LeanderMomma Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/28/2018 at 1:20 AM, principalagent said: This is far from a crazy opinion. No, it isn't crazy. I'm just not sure people are prepared for just how fantastic that show is. gregorydf01 1 Quote
Omega Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/28/2018 at 1:27 AM, LeanderMomma said: No, it isn't crazy. I'm just not sure people are prepared for just how fantastic that show is. I haven't seen any part of this show yet and I'm looking forward to the first time being in San Antonio live at 6A state finals! LeanderMomma 1 Quote
LeanderMomma Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 they decided to take 4 bands in H! Quote
LKendrick Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 Pebble Hills and Montwood are the two advancers from Area A. Danpod 1 Quote
LostChoirGuy Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/28/2018 at 1:42 AM, LKendrick said: Pebble Hills and Montwood are the two advancers from Area A. Really!? Wow! That's very surprising to me. Quote
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