2018 6A State

[LeanderMomma]

  On 11/6/2018 at 6:03 AM, Jeffrey L. Gorman said:

It was told to me that when you have a large number of Bands such as we had today, the chance for this happening is great. CTJ got a 24th position a couple of years ago. The source said something like this is not as prevelent in Class A-AAAA due to the smaller number of Bands. Class AA will only have 17 Bands to compete and only 7 will advance tomorrow. The problem with throwing a High Score and a low score out is that if you add two more judges do you then go to 4 Music and 3 M&M. What if the High and Low rating judges are in the same discipline, IE Music, or M &M. I know that each of the Judges for today and tomorrow have taken their Bands to SMC before. Most have judged BOA and DCI events along with other circuits Most are directors of University Bands. It is not any easy solution. If Round Rock had not gotten the 34th place position from one Judge, another Band would have been knocked out. Usually if you look at the Ordinals, the top 3 Bands are pretty consistently rated the same by all the Judges. UIL looks at this every two years.

You’re absolutely right. There are just so many bands. I do not envy the judges one little bit and I know that their job is not an easy one. The system is flawed in some ways for sure, and I am not sure that there is a perfect system out there for any kind of event that is judged by subjective human beings.

[LeanderMomma]

  On 11/6/2018 at 12:42 PM, Danpod said:

Good morning.

I hope it’s another great day in the dome.

[Danpod]

  On 11/6/2018 at 12:47 PM, LeanderMomma said:

I hope it’s another great day in the dome.

Everything will be everything!!

[Danpod]

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[Dband2018]

Good luck to all the bands performing today!

[mmbandfan]

As a long time Area C parent I continue to marvel at the progress of John Horn, and I really want to know more about their story. 22nd at State, and ahead of Pearland, Hendrickson, and Cy-Fair! Two years ago they were 21st...at Area! Having seen them live this year I can say it was deserved - such a powerful sound and masterful playing of some challenging John Mackey music. Congratulations on a fantastic season!

[LHSax]

This will be almost every single band's 4th performance in the dome in 5 days. Everyone should be relatively rested and ready (yay making this a 2 day competition!) I expect a lot of maxed out performances this afternoon! This lineup makes me think we'll have some clooooose results at the top at the end of this.

[Danpod]

  On 11/6/2018 at 2:36 PM, LHSax said:

This will be almost every single band's 4th performance in the dome in 5 days. Everyone should be relatively rested and ready (yay making this a 2 day competition!) I expect a lot of maxed out performances this afternoon! This lineup makes me think we'll have some clooooose results at the top at the end of this.

 

Truth.  The kiddos are being asked to be warriors.  Today will be special.

[Rudedog34]

  On 11/6/2018 at 6:20 AM, Drum Alumni said:

I agree that there are challenges, but there has to be some sort of fail safe here. It's true Round Rock could have knocked someone out, but who's to say that they didn't knock them out because they played better? And even if the top three bands are scored consistently, there are still 30 to 40 other bands that deserve a fair score that is representative of their performance. Especially those bands on the edge of making finals or not. For some of these bands that know they likely wont challenge for a medal, making finals is like winning the whole contest! I say add the two judges and drop the lowest and highest, or potentially move to a more BOA style of judging. Either way something has to change to keep what happened today from happening.

Judging must have accountability and the system is flawed.

Just glad I'm done with all this.

 

Good luck to the bands who made it.

[SewTallSoprano]

  On 11/29/2017 at 5:24 PM, Jeffrey L. Gorman said:

The main difference is that UIL is 60% Music and 40% Marching and Man.  Visual is not a caption under UIL.  The fact is that a Non Corps style Band could not be judged fairly in BOA contests. In 2016 Spring Hill and China Springs both made the 4A Finals at UIL. In the Finals they received higher M&M Scores than most of the Corps Style Bands.   This made many Corps style Directors angry.  It seems that they did not like having a Band that did precision drills get a good M&M Score.  If you watch the DVD of the Contest, both Spring Hill and China Spring were crisper in their drills than the Corps Style Bands. While most Bands in TX are Corps style, UIL is tasked to judge all types of Bands fairly. The current BOA way of judging clearly discriminates against, Military Style, Show Style and Big Ten Style Bands. For those who disagree, please look at the fact that in 2016, the Florida Marching Band Coalition agreed that the scores for Show Bands under the criteria they had in place was unfair.  They now have different score sheets for Show Bands in Contests. That is an honest appraisal.  When BOA first started their was a variety of Bands that entered. Once they saw that unless you were corps style, you could not win. They walked.  UIL has a responsibility that BOA(which is a Private Organization does not have) of making the playing field as equal as possible. 

Unfortunately, we see more and more of the BOA stuff being rewarded in UIL. The top two bands this year have half the marching of Vandegrift and Hebron and Marcus. And if the judges are in the boxes, they also reward amping, totally BOA thing. We lived through DCI this summer as our daughter marched Crown. Shows have gone the way of broadway musicals. Anything goes, and the crazier the higher the score. I would like the see the playing field leveled at UIL to showcase pure talent in marching and music, rather than the amount of props and decibels on the field.

[Band_dad_of_2]

  On 11/6/2018 at 2:32 PM, mmbandfan said:

As a long time Area C parent I continue to marvel at the progress of John Horn, and I really want to know more about their story. 22nd at State, and ahead of Pearland, Hendrickson, and Cy-Fair! Two years ago they were 21st...at Area! Having seen them live this year I can say it was deserved - such a powerful sound and masterful playing of some challenging John Mackey music. Congratulations on a fantastic season!

 

Their progress has been very impressive!!  I had some concerns about Horn after their percussion director left...that was such an unbelievably strong part of their program.  Good grief, was it strong....

 

Good to see them do so well!!!

[xxneontreesxx]

  On 11/6/2018 at 3:27 PM, SewTallSoprano said:

 

Unfortunately, we see more and more of the BOA stuff being rewarded in UIL. The top two bands this year have half the marching of Vandegrift and Hebron and Marcus. And if the judges are in the boxes, they also reward amping, totally BOA thing. We lived through DCI this summer as our daughter marched Crown. Shows have gone the way of broadway musicals. Anything goes, and the crazier the higher the score. I would like the see the playing field leveled at UIL to showcase pure talent in marching and music, rather than the amount of props and decibels on the field.

This is what has had me worried for a while. While the flashy Broadway shows are crazy impressive on their own, it is disappointing knowing that the performers who march and play at the same time and still are absolutley incredible might get scored lower because they decided not to base their show on GE and decided to focus more on the individual skills of their students.

[Samuel Culper]

Prelims results ordinals...

 

LISD North: 1+5+9=15

 

LISD South: 2+3+8=13

 

 

[SewTallSoprano]

  On 12/28/2017 at 8:47 PM, Majellan said:

Okay, I agree that UIL is good as it is in being fair to the military bands.  However, having marched in military and Corps style bands, Corps style marching is much harder to perform.  Kind of like comparing apples to oranges, many military bands go for years with alterations to the same show.  However, I think they deserve a spot in the competition, I don't think the rules need to be changed, certainly not to include show bands....how would you judge that against military or corps?  I can't think of a military band that would deserve to be in the top 10 in 6A.  The usually dependable Longview band did not perform well this year, Lufkin was better but the drill was blah, neither band has the imagination that some of Spring Hill's military shows have.  I haven't seen Kingwood's performances so can't comment on them.  But comparing a Hebron, Vandegrift or certainly CTJ bands to the top 6A military bands would be very difficult indeed.

Have to disagree with Vandegrift being a "show" band. All is done without using shotgun mics, the field is never filled with crazy gaudi props, marching is super clean straight leg. Vision is a dance team not a drill team with rifles, hoops, balls, swords, shells, etc. And you'll never see them make a show that makes no sense to the audience let alone the kids marching it, the directors just won't have it. 

[Parkwoodmom]

Anyone else having issues with Box5?  I paid for today, cleared cache, refreshed and still get error message.  They're not getting back to me.

[Danpod]

The Alamodome Wi-Fi is down.  I don't know if Box5 is connected to that.

[SewTallSoprano]

So, yes I am a Vandy mom. Have one more thing to say. In the 5 years we have had kids in VHS the band program, and the school, has grown tremendously in numbers. The band itself has more than doubled in size in that short time. I'd say half of the band is made up of freshman in a now 370 member band.  I want to applaud the band directors for handling such a huge growth and teaching the freshman such a high level of skill in performance. The directors believe in the kids talent to grow from the start. Everyone marches, not just the upperclass. I am so proud of this organization! Can't wait for the next four years as our last child goes through this amazing program!

[jcbg]

Having a full night to think this over, it still hurts to think we placed as low as 23rd, but at the end of the day, all we can say is that those kids performed their hearts out and they should be proud of themselves for even making the state contest, because it's not easy to do. For anyone that's not happy with their placements, just remember that even qualifying for the state contest makes your band one of the best in Texas, and that is a prestigious honor in and of itself.

 

And for every band that made finals, today is your chance to prove that your band is the best in Texas. Go perform your hearts out, and make your last performance an unforgettable one.

[Brassy]

I think our kids feel blessed and happy to be in finals. They have nothing to lose. Go give your best performance yet.

[vincentlee1220]

Is the stream still down?

[Parkwoodmom]

  On 11/6/2018 at 4:34 PM, vincentlee1220 said:

Is the stream still down?

It is for me....

[Danpod]

The live blog is still up.....

I'm just saying....

Because it's still up....

Yes

[rcb05]

  On 11/6/2018 at 4:55 AM, the terminator said:

Duncanville when I competed was always a marvel to me because despite the challenging situation many students were in they played so well and their marching was always very clean, and it made you believe that anyone could be great at music. I love my alma mater(Wakeland), but as things progressed I truly realized the advantages we had that did make a huge difference in determining our success.

Duncanville is still an interesting case because they finished third in State Honor Band last spring. So clearly the musical ability is still there to complete with the big boys. Maybe it comes more down to the funds they can put toward show design.

[GeekyBandMom]

  On 11/6/2018 at 4:41 PM, Danpod said:

The live blog is still up.....

 

I'm just saying....

 

Because it's still up....

 

Yes

You know when live blog is even more super cool and greatly appreciated? When I'm on pit crew or props and can't see any other bands, which is basically most of the time. I pull up the blog so I can follow along while I'm doing the "hurry up and wait" thing. It's awesome!

[Danpod]

  On 11/6/2018 at 4:48 PM, GeekyBandMom said:

You know when live blog is even more super cool and greatly appreciated? When I'm on pit crew or props and can't see any other bands, which is basically most of the time. I pull up the blog so I can follow along while I'm doing the "hurry up and wait" thing. It's awesome!

 

And we appreciate every minute you follow along!