2018 BOA San Antonio?

[zvchy]

I just want to say, because this will probably be overlooked, Hutto attended BOA SA this year for their first BOA appearance ever and got 45th place! As a Hutto Alumnus it is so amazing to see the kids far exceed everyone’s expectations. Hopefully someday soon we will be contenders for even higher placings.

[A Testing Trumpet]

PRELIMS PANEL 1 

 

01st) Ronald Reagan 95.500

02nd) Hebron 94.800

03rd) Leander 93.500

04th) Keller 92.375

05th) Hendrickson 91.050

06th) Westlake 90.550

07th) Cedar Ridge 90.325

08th) LD Bell 90.300 

09th) Timber Creek 89.025

10th) Cedar Park 88.525

11th) The Woodlands College Park 86.500

12th) Round Rock 86.100

13th) Rouse 86.000

14th) Lake Travis 85.875

15th) Clear Brook 84.900

[bingogooberman]

also, CTJ cracks the top 5 at San Antonio for the 8th consecutive year (2011-2018). This ties them for the all-time longest streak of top 5 finishes at this contest, the other being Marcus (2005-2012). 

[FloMoParent]

  On 11/4/2018 at 5:35 AM, bingogooberman said:

FloMo and CTJ are not the new Marcus/Bell because in those days it was literally impossible for anyone BUT them to win, They were in the stratosphere and the rest of us were on the ground. That was dominance. Nothing against FM and CTJ- they are truly elite, but it isn't difficult to imagine Reagan, or Hebron, or The Woodlands or Leander, etc. winning.

This exactly!  Every year it is really anyone's guess who will come out on top.  There are so many amazing bands in this state.  Just making finals is an accomplishment.  Congrats to all the bands.  Best of luck to those marching at State this week

[Txpharmguy]

Heck a 93.5 2 years ago would win. Today would have been good enough for 8th place.

[Band2013]

  On 11/4/2018 at 5:30 AM, Dband2018 said:

Round rock at 26th?

I think that round rock needs to reevaluate their show concepts, they are a great band but their shows production seem to be holding them back. It's never too late to make some changes for the better I wish them luck at the state contest. 

[Nny14]

  On 11/4/2018 at 5:39 AM, FloMoParent said:

This exactly! Every year it is really anyone's guess who will come out on top. There are so many amazing bands in this state. Just making finals is an accomplishment. Congrats to all the bands. Best of luck to those marching at State this week

I agree it sure seems like that coming into San Antonio. Heck Reagan almost won this thing. But looking at the results the past couple of years it sure seems like an either them or them situation.

[takigan]

45th is a pretty darn good placement at a contest like this.  There are plenty of big names placing in the 30s and 40s (PESH, Wylie, Westwood, Weiss, Pflugerville, Keller Central, JET, Friendswood, Klein Oak etc.).

[Nny14]

  On 11/4/2018 at 5:41 AM, Band2013 said:

I think that round rock needs to reevaluate their show concepts, they are a great band but their shows production seem to be holding them back. It's never too late to make some changes for the better I wish them luck at the state contest.

It's time to catch up or be left in the dust.

[Band2013]

  On 11/4/2018 at 5:43 AM, Nny14 said:

It's time to catch up or be left in the dust.

I agree it's not that round rock has gotten worse. instead, they have stayed the same while other bands just got better.

[FloMoParent]

Prelims Panel 2

 

1) Flower Mound 95.150
2) Claudia Taylor Johnson 94.125

3) Vandegrift 94.100

4) Vista Ridge 92.550

5) Marcus 90.875
6) The Woodlands 90.450

7) James Bowie 89.90

8) Prosper 89.400
9) Coppell 88.800
10) Haltom 88.175
11) Oak Ridge 87.450
12) Winston Churchill 87.100
13) Seven Lakes 86.450

14) Pearland 86.300
15) John P. Alexander 84.550

[A Testing Trumpet]

PRELIMS PANEL 2

 

01st) Flower Mound 95.150

02nd) Claudia Taylor Johnson 94.125 

03rd) Vandegrift 94.100

04th) Vista Ridge 92.550

05th) Marcus 90.875

06th) The Woodlands 90.450

07th) James Bowie 89.800

08th) Prosper 89.400

09th) Coppell 88.800

10th) Haltom 88.175

11th) Oak Ridge 87.450

12th) Winston Churchill 87.100 

13th) Seven Lakes 86.450

14th) Pearland 86.300

15th) John P. Alexander 84.550

[A Testing Trumpet]

uhh

[FloMoParent]

fixed mine.  eyes got crossed

[Omega]

Well looking at recaps for the two probably surprise bands out of finals for me (Bowie and Cedar Park) it looks like for Bowie they simply didn't quite get there across the board. They were close but just needed a little extra. Cedar Park seems to tell a different story as the performance captions are strong and would have them in finals but GE was just low. Like really low. Like 21st overall low while Music and Visual were 11th and 12th respectively.

[A Testing Trumpet]

Well, Looks like the next 4 advancement was The Woodlands, LD Bell, Westlake, and Cedar Ridge.

[BandWatcher]

BOA owes Cedar Park and Bowie an apology. Nothing against LD Bell and Westlake, but they were in finals because of lucking into panel 1. Finals scores back that up. Either BOA needs to get their judging panels to be more consistent (not sure how you do that since they’re people and prone to subjective differences) or you cap the contest at 60 bands and go back to one panel over two days. What’s been communicated today is that luck is every bit as important as show design and skill. Cedar Park not getting to perform at Waco might have factored but Bowie’s trajectory all season has been higher than Bell, Westlake, even Cedar Ridge and Hendrickson. Both CP’s and Bowie’s prelims runs were plenty good enough. Nobody probably cares tho. I’m sure Dan won’t spend 5 seconds talking about it on the pod.

[Band2013]

Vista Ridge & Cedar Ridge made the biggest gains from prelims to finals.

[BandWatcher]

  On 11/4/2018 at 5:54 AM, Omega said:

Well looking at recaps for the two probably surprise bands out of finals for me (Bowie and Cedar Park) it looks like for Bowie they simply didn't quite get there across the board. They were close but just needed a little extra. Cedar Park seems to tell a different story as the performance captions are strong and would have them in finals but GE was just low. Like really low. Like 21st overall low while Music and Visual were 11th and 12th respectively.

They were both plenty good enough.

[Nny14]

  On 11/4/2018 at 5:55 AM, BandWatcher said:

BOA owes Cedar Park and Bowie an apology. Nothing against LD Bell and Westlake, but they were in finals because of lucking into panel 1. Finals scores back that up. Either BOA needs to get their judging panels to be more consistent (not sure how you do that since they’re people and prone to subjective differences) or you cap the contest at 60 bands and go back to one panel over two days. What’s been communicated today is that luck is every bit as important as show design and skill. Cedar Park not getting to perform at Waco might have factored but Bowie’s trajectory all season has been higher than Bell, Westlake, even Cedar Ridge and Hendrickson. Both CP’s and Bowie’s prelims runs were plenty good enough. Nobody probably cares tho. I’m sure Dan won’t spend 5 seconds talking about it on the pod.

Maybe this applies to Bowie, but Cedar Park was in the same panel as Bell and Westlake. Couldn't be more fair of a comparison. Cedar Park really needs to take advantage of their 5A status to go out of the box on design during these 6A state years.

[BandWatcher]

  On 11/4/2018 at 6:01 AM, Nny14 said:

Maybe this applies to Bowie, but Cedar Park was in the same panel as Bell and Westlake. Couldn't be more fair of a comparison. Cedar Park really needs to take advantage of their 5A status to go out of the box on design during these 6A state years.

Dang it, you’re right: got my wires crossed on CP’s panel. I don’t have a personal stake in either program but have friends in both. Either way, BOA has some work to do. However the rules are tweaked for next year (and how could they not), I guess that’ll be the modern version of the “Hebron rule”? (maybe we’ll call it the “Bowie rule”?)

[I play the baritone good]

Just another meaningless tidbit, but I thought it was cool how Marcus' ballad arrangement was essentially identical to the one we played in 2003, long before the group ascended to the level they're at now. The mello soloist that year went on to be the mello soloist in Phantom Regiment's "Spartacus" production in 2008. Beast of a horn player.

[zvchy]

  On 11/4/2018 at 5:41 AM, takigan said:

 

45th is a pretty darn good placement at a contest like this. There are plenty of big names placing in the 30s and 40s (PESH, Wylie, Westwood, Weiss, Pflugerville, Keller Central, JET, Friendswood, Klein Oak etc.).

It’s good to see my school getting better every single year(: So proud of the work they’ve done

[A Testing Trumpet]

I think this result, more than ever, tells Round Rock that they need figure out how all these new bands surpassed them and learn from that. I know this might sound harsh, but if they desire to climb back up they simply cannot rely on the same techniques they have been using.  It's true that they have changed some things design wise, but something is still missing and I hope they can figure out what it is. Regardless of this result, I am still very proud that they advanced to State and I hope this fires them up to do well there. I apologize if this offends anyone, but simply put, this result is a testament that they are still very similar to 2011-2017 RR, and they need to  change even more if they hope to make finals at the SA's and GN's of the future. Some tough love but I'm saying this because I know they have it in them to improve. Good Luck! 

[BandoFando]

I thought The Woodlands and Keller were much more comparable to the rest of the top half than the jump in score implies, but other than that I think the finals judges did a good job at ordering the bands.