BOA Dallas/Ft Worth

[principalagent]

https://www.hornrank.com/2018/10/bedford-prelims-oct-6-2018.html

[bingogooberman]

music ensemble results are...intriguing

[meursault]

  On 10/7/2018 at 3:16 AM, bingogooberman said:

music ensemble results are...intriguing

I think the word you’re looking for is “bullsh**” , pardon my language.

[principalagent]

Music Ensemble straight up kept Coppell out of finals. 

[Bandwoww]

Wow Keller was 2nd in music and visual. (Tied FloMo in music)

[JeremiahW]

https://www.hornrank.com/2018/10/bedford-prelims-oct-6-2018.html

[LostChoirGuy]

Some of those scores are baffling.

[LeanderMomma]

  On 10/7/2018 at 3:19 AM, principalagent said:

Music Ensemble straight up kept Coppell out of finals.

Yes, what was that judge smoking?!

[brassdad]

  On 10/7/2018 at 2:44 AM, littlejaw said:

It would have been just past midnight. And I don’t see anything wrong with that.

 

Isn't there a noise ordinance around Pennington that would have prevented this from going past midnight? I thought I saw someone else say something about that.

[LostChoirGuy]

The Music Ensemble judge gave Hebron an 18.30.  I know that Hebron sounded great, but we can't deny that they had sound issues (whether it was their fault or not).  I'm not saying that they aren't deserving of 1st place, but that was by far the highest score given to any band by any judge.  Then they gave 2nd to Waxahachie and 3rd to Trinity?  And Coppell got 20th, Keller Central 25th, and Union 14th from them... I just don't understand.

[Trumpetman7]

Yeah literally 4 bands placed higher in music ge than Hebron, I know they had a mic issue but still I don’t think that should affecf it. Overall the judging is really inconsistent throughout, like trinity got 3rd in music ensemble and I’m not saying they didn’t deserve it but the fact that the judges had such differences in opinion I don’t really think the scores reflected the actual performances. That’s just me though

[LeanderMomma]

Bizarre scoring. Just all over the place! Can we really even count this competition as any kind of fair judgement on the bands we saw today??

[LostChoirGuy]

That's what makes me sad.  This was Keller's first ever medal in a BOA regional.  I wish it could have come in a different way where they had a chance to follow up in a finals performance and experience the excitement of a retreat.

[Trumpetman7]

Not really I think the general ranks are accurate but the way the scores added up made no sense, they ended up adding up to a kind of accurate overall score but the captions and sub captions were so inaccurate and inconsistent.

[Scur]

Byron Nelson getting 18th over all but 10th in Music Ens just shows out out of whack this is

[Matt Harloff’s Daughter]

The scoring that we saw here tonight is truly controversial.

[Bandwoww]

I think the visual judges did a great job overall. The music ensemble judge was on something else, but I think it balanced out for the most part and placements and scores are pretty accurate.

[bandit]

Music Ensemble judge clearly was watching some other show. IMO it is not fair to all the bands if his judging is so all over the place. Maybe BOA should have less contests but more judges at each contest and drop highest/lowest scores to prevent one judge from skewing the scores like this.

[bandit]

  On 10/7/2018 at 3:42 AM, LeanderMomma said:

Bizarre scoring. Just all over the place! Can we really even count this competition as any kind of fair judgement on the bands we saw today??

I agree. It is really not quite fair to any of the bands. It does not give you an accurate representation of where anyone stood. 

[Hard Core Band Fan]

  On 10/7/2018 at 3:42 AM, LeanderMomma said:

Bizarre scoring. Just all over the place! Can we really even count this competition as any kind of fair judgement on the bands we saw today??

 

Yes, actually, you can. The judges are using completely different criteria than you are to make their assessments. For them, it's not a matter of liking a band, but measuring against a standard - their standard. These guys are educated and experienced in this field and are able to judge more fairly than most of us. I may not agree with them sometimes, but respect their scores.

[Hard Core Band Fan]

  On 10/7/2018 at 4:50 AM, bandit said:

I agree. It is really not quite fair to any of the bands. It does not give you an accurate representation of where anyone stood. 

 

And what qualifies you to make this statement?

[Trumpetman7]

  On 10/7/2018 at 4:50 AM, Hard Core Band Fan said:

 

Yes, actually, you can. The judges are using completely different criteria than you are to make their assessments. For them, it's not a matter of liking a band, but measuring against a standard - their standard. These guys are educated and experienced in this field and are able to judge more fairly than most of us. I may not agree with them sometimes, but respect their scores.

The criteria they’re using, which is on the adjudication handbook imo didn’t match up with the scores, it’s one thing if the scores matched the placements but its so inconsistent that it’s really hard to tell. I’m sorry but it’s hard for me to believe that out of the 30+ bands trinity had the 3rd best ensememble sound and they still didn’t make finals. It just doesn’t add up.

[bandit]

  On 10/7/2018 at 4:55 AM, Hard Core Band Fan said:

And what qualifies you to make this statement?

Just observing. ME Numbers are all over the place. Let's just take Byron Nelson as a random example. One music judge places them at 21st, another places same band at 10th. Yes one is individual, the other is ensemble, but it just seems off. 

[Hard Core Band Fan]

  On 10/7/2018 at 5:04 AM, bandit said:

Just observing. ME Numbers are all over the place. Let's just take Byron Nelson as a random example. One music judge places them at 21st, another places same band at 10th. Yes one is individual, the other is ensemble, but it just seems off. 

 

So you're a band director or music major or something that would actually qualify you to question these trained and knowledgeable persons? If you are, then please elaborate and give more detail on how the scores were incorrect. If they were and you know the difference, please let us know just what errors were made.

[bandit]

  On 10/7/2018 at 5:14 AM, Hard Core Band Fan said:

So you're a band director or music major or something that would actually qualify you to question these trained and knowledgeable persons? If you are, then please elaborate and give more detail on how the scores were incorrect. If they were and you know the difference, please let us know just what errors were made.

Relax...it's an observation and I am not the only one saying this. I'm going to take the high road and respectfully end this discussion now. Have a good night