2019 BOA San Antonio

[alex9809]

I honestly want to see how all returning finalists will do with the 6 of the texas bands coming this year :/

[lost]

Something I remember reading a while back was someone suggesting having 16 bands in finals rather than 14. I’m not sure what I think of that to be honest no strong opinion for me just bringing up an idea from a while back.

 

For fun here’s the bands that would’ve made finals had there been 16 instead of 14 in the past few years + their scores for some extra info

 

2018:

•James Bowie (89.800) and Prosper (89.400)

2017:

•L.D Bell (90.250) and Vista Ridge (88.550)

2016:

Cedar Ridge (84.40) and L.D Bell (84.30)

2015:

Friendswood (83.20) and Westlake (83.00)

2014:

Hendrickson (85.10) and Richland (84.45)

2013:

Leander (84.55) and Spring (84.10)

2012:

Vandegrift (85.85) and Winston Churchill (84.25)

2011:

Plano East Senior (83.85) and Legacy (83.25)

[alex9809]

  On 9/12/2019 at 1:53 AM, lost said:

Something I remember reading a while back was someone suggesting having 16 bands in finals rather than 14. I’m not sure what I think of that to be honest no strong opinion for me just bringing up an idea from a while back.

 

For fun here’s the bands that would’ve made finals had there been 16 instead of 14 in the past few years + their scores for some extra info

 

2018:

•James Bowie (89.800) and Prosper (89.400)

2017:

•L.D Bell (90.250) and Vista Ridge (88.550)

2016:

Cedar Ridge (84.40) and L.D Bell (84.30)

2015:

Friendswood (83.20) and Westlake (83.00)

2014:

Hendrickson (85.10) and Richland (84.45)

2013:

Leander (84.55) and Spring (84.10)

2012:

Vandegrift (85.85) and Winston Churchill (84.25)

2011:

Plano East Senior (83.85) and Legacy (83.25)

Wow looking at those scores for a moment. Still hard to believe a band making 88 did not qualify to make finals still amazes me

[LeanderMomma]

  On 9/12/2019 at 1:57 AM, alex9809 said:

Wow looking at those scores for a moment. Still hard to believe a band making 88 did not qualify to make finals still amazes me

2017 was a crazy intense year.

[alex9809]

Who knows what will happen this year. I’m kinda hoping there could be an underdog this year that be close to winning that nobody will expect... but that’s just me

[An Inspirational Pinecone]

  On 9/12/2019 at 1:57 AM, alex9809 said:

 

Wow looking at those scores for a moment. Still hard to believe a band making 88 did not qualify to make finals still amazes me

Did you over look LD Bell's 90?

[BlueCircle]

  On 9/12/2019 at 2:17 AM, alex9809 said:

Who knows what will happen this year. I’m kinda hoping there could be an underdog this year that be close to winning that nobody will expect... but that’s just me

[LeanderMomma]

I’m hoping to see a new winner in SA. One of those “always the bridesmaid, never the bride” kind of deals. I’m ready to see one of these bridesmaids become the bride.

[alex9809]

  On 9/12/2019 at 2:33 AM, An Inspirational Pinecone said:

Did you over look LD Bell's 90?

Ik!! I’m actually a LD Bell alumni myself.

[TWHSParent]

  On 9/12/2019 at 2:46 AM, LeanderMomma said:

I’m hoping to see a new winner in SA. One of those “always the bridesmaid, never the bride” kind of deals. I’m ready to see one of these bridesmaids become the bride.

 

There have only been 7 different winners in 16 years. LD Bell has 4, Marcus and Flower Mound have 3 each. There's 10 years. Ronald Reagan and CTJ each have 2, and Westfield and The Woodlands have 1 apiece.

[alex9809]

  On 9/12/2019 at 3:02 AM, TWHSParent said:

There have only been 7 different winners in 16 years. LD Bell has 4, Marcus and Flower Mound have 3 each. There's 10 years. Ronald Reagan and CTJ each have 2, and Westfield and The Woodlands have 1 apiece.

Wow Westfield. I really wonder what happened to them cuz thats he only year I ever heard of them in 2003

[daldhowe]

While I love CTJ and Flower Mound.....a Hebron or Vandy win would be awesome.

[TWHSParent]

And I dug into 2nd and 3rd place finishes..

 

2nd Place Finishes: The Woodlands 4, LD Bell 3, Marcus, James Bowie, Hebron, and Ronald Reagan 2, Winston Churchill 1.

3rd Place Finishes: James Bowie 3, Marcus, The Woodlands and Leander 2, Stephen F Austin, Owasso, Cedar Park, LD Bell, Claudia Taylor Johnson, Vandegrift, and Hebron 1.

 

So total medalist finishes:

LD Bell                            8

Marcus                            7

The Woodlands               7

James Bowie                    5

Ronald Reagan               4

Flower Mound                  3

Claudia Taylor Johnson    3

Hebron                             3

Leander                           2

Westfield                          1

Winston Churchill             1

Stephen F Austin             1

Owasso                            1

Cedar Park                       1

Vandegrift                         1

[TWHSParent]

  On 9/12/2019 at 3:15 AM, alex9809 said:

Wow Westfield. I really wonder what happened to them cuz thats he only year I ever heard of them in 2003

 

Demographic changes in their district. Both Westfield and Spring (both in Spring ISD) were once absolute powerhouse marching programs. Westfield has had good shows the last couple years - they just missed finals at McAllen last year (they were the dreaded 11th place). Spring was 50th at SA last year. We get to see them from time to time, and while they aren't competing at the top, they do put on enjoyable shows.

[LeanderMomma]

  On 9/12/2019 at 3:02 AM, TWHSParent said:

There have only been 7 different winners in 16 years. LD Bell has 4, Marcus and Flower Mound have 3 each. There's 10 years. Ronald Reagan and CTJ each have 2, and Westfield and The Woodlands have 1 apiece.

Only Seven in 16 years. I had no idea! Yep it’s time! As much as I ache for a Leander win, I won’t be surprised if Hebron takes it this year.

[TWHSParent]

  On 9/12/2019 at 2:46 AM, LeanderMomma said:

I’m hoping to see a new winner in SA. One of those “always the bridesmaid, never the bride” kind of deals. I’m ready to see one of these bridesmaids become the bride.

 

So after my digging, I think we should be pulling for James Bowie as they are the bridesmaid the most historically. After them would be Hebron, then Leander.

[principalagent]

  On 9/12/2019 at 3:29 AM, TWHSParent said:

So after my digging, I think we should be pulling for James Bowie as they are the bridesmaid the most historically. After them would be Hebron, then Leander.

Bowie and Hebron are UIL bridesmaids as well. Bowie was 4th three cycles in a row, and Hebron 2nd three cycles in a row.

[Guest]

  On 9/12/2019 at 3:26 AM, TWHSParent said:

 

Demographic changes in their district. Both Westfield and Spring (both in Spring ISD) were once absolute powerhouse marching programs. Westfield has had good shows the last couple years - they just missed finals at McAllen last year (they were the dreaded 11th place). Spring was 50th at SA last year. We get to see them from time to time, and while they aren't competing at the top, they do put on enjoyable shows.

Westfield seems to be headed back up. I remember 4-5 years ago that band had around 90 members in it, and are now pushing 200+ with much stronger performance levels.

[SpartanBandAlum]

I’d really love to see a Leander school pull out a win at SA this year, or even to see Reagan return to the top spot

[alex9809]

I would also love to see Bell try to make it back up the ranks soon

[Rudedog34]

  On 9/11/2019 at 9:30 PM, Rubisco said:

 

The main difference is that they're using one panel to determine finalists and class champions at Nationals, but they're using two different panels and throwing all the scores together at San Antonio.

The judges need to grow a pair. The programs bust their tails all season and always bring their best.

MFA makes $$$$ off of these contests that compensate the judges for sitting in the AC sipping cold beverages and chowing down while the bands wait in crowded busses, practice in the heat and sit in the cheap seats.

There should be one set of judges for all of qualifying at least. If they took this as serious as every member of every program that takes the field and perform the jobs they're paid to do, then we probably wouldn't be discussing this.

[SpartanBandAlum]

  On 9/12/2019 at 1:18 AM, banddad84 said:

only 4 of the 12 finalist are returning - kinda low

I’m not trying to disprove anything you’re saying, but I was genuinely curious to see if there were any bands missing without a clear reason

 

Blue Springs - Very good chance that they’re switching from an odd-year rotation to an even-year rotation

Broken Arrow - Historically skips Nats every third year

Tarpon Springs - Attends on even-numbered years

Wando - Attends on even-numbered years

Jenks - Has never attended in two consecutive years

Dobyns-Bennett - Doesn’t seem to have an obvious reason, as they’ve attended consistently since 2013

Prosper - Texas band, trip is very costly especially considering they took it twice in a row

O’Fallon - Misses one out of every 3-4 years

 

So I think this year is simply a combination of circumstance and some well-established programs deciding that a year this competitive would be a good year to lessen the financial strain a little.

[LeanderMomma]

They’re all prepping to make a move from GN to SA in the near future.

[SpartanBandAlum]

I don’t think any of us would be complaining if they did!

[CTJBandPops]

  On 9/12/2019 at 2:46 AM, LeanderMomma said:

I’m hoping to see a new winner in SA. One of those “always the bridesmaid, never the bride” kind of deals. I’m ready to see one of these bridesmaids become the bride.

I predict another Jaguar win - you pick the school