MadisonBandMan1 Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 So far, what I know from the calanders I have looked at (just in our district). Reagan Churchill
WoodlandsMom4ever Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 Woodlands should be there. The date has been mentioned at booster meetings- but we don’t officially calendar until later in the year.
abtwitch Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 Interested to see how Westwood will place here considering how close they always are to finals at Austin, I'll really be rooting for them at this one! CharpieAg and BandFan95 2
Popular Post LeanderMomma Posted February 15, 2019 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 12:07 PM, MadisonBandMan1 said: So far, what I know from the colanders I have looked at (just in our district). Reagan Churchill Did you see any spaghetti in those colanders? sop153063, whitewing09 and MadisonBandMan1 3
MadisonBandMan1 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 8:11 PM, LeanderMomma said: Did you see any spaghetti in those colanders? Yes, yes I did lol. LeanderMomma and sop153063 2
Guest Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 Westwood was signed up in 2015 but dropped out very close to the contest. I believe they will make finals here.
Guest Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 I believe the last time Westwood attended Houston they placed 22nd out of 27th, which will obviously not happen again.
abtwitch Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 9:17 PM, Cityscapes said: Westwood was signed up in 2015 but dropped out very close to the contest. I believe they will make finals here. As I was a member of the band that year, I don't think that ever happened unless my memory is just that hazy. It was nearly 4 years ago at this point so maybe I did forget.
Guest Posted February 17, 2019 Posted February 17, 2019 I remember seeing them on the lineup in April or May, but I know they were at TMC that year.
Popular Post JeremiahW Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Posted February 18, 2019 Houston is the only BOA shows that consistently has more bands registered than they can accept, since they really don't have any hours in the day to expand it like they have with super regionals. I know it puts BOA staff in a difficult position because using the point system, spots are assigned to those bands that regularly compete in BOA leaving newer bands without a performance slot. I'm hearing this year enrollment in Houston is already the highest it's ever been (and 2017 had nearly 40 bands enrolled before they were able to encourage several to switch to Midland/McAllen). I think the new venue especially is responsible for drawing an increased number of local Houston groups, many of which presently will be pushed out of a performance slot because of all the groups traveling from Austin/San Antonio/DFW that regularly compete in BOA. BOA has seen so much growth in Texas which is why they keep adding more and more competitions, but as they continue to add more opportunities, there is growth in both the number of groups competing in BOA events and the number of events each group competes at. Adding Waco was designed to relieve some of the over enrollment in Houston, by giving those Austin/SA/DFW bands another opportunity to compete without traveling to Houston, but it doesn't seem to have worked. If they continue drawing interest from 40+ bands in Houston each year, I wouldn't be shocked to see BOA try to explore new opportunities in the area, whether it's an expanded regional format that adds some Friday night performances, or perhaps two simultaneous prelims sites like WGI does (theoretically could utilize Rhodes Stadium immediately south of this year's site, Legacy Stadium, for two 20- or 25-band prelims, with top 6 or 7 from each advancing to a 12- or 14-band finals). Another option would be turning it into a full-fledged super regional a week or two before San Antonio. TWHSParent, CTJBandPops, Dog885 and 1 other 4
CTJBandPops Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 On 2/18/2019 at 8:17 PM, JeremiahW said: Houston is the only BOA shows that consistently has more bands registered than they can accept, since they really don't have any hours in the day to expand it like they have with super regionals. I know it puts BOA staff in a difficult position because using the point system, spots are assigned to those bands that regularly compete in BOA leaving newer bands without a performance slot. I'm hearing this year enrollment in Houston is already the highest it's ever been (and 2017 had nearly 40 bands enrolled before they were able to encourage several to switch to Midland/McAllen). I think the new venue especially is responsible for drawing an increased number of local Houston groups, many of which presently will be pushed out of a performance slot because of all the groups traveling from Austin/San Antonio/DFW that regularly compete in BOA. BOA has seen so much growth in Texas which is why they keep adding more and more competitions, but as they continue to add more opportunities, there is growth in both the number of groups competing in BOA events and the number of events each group competes at. Adding Waco was designed to relieve some of the over enrollment in Houston, by giving those Austin/SA/DFW bands another opportunity to compete without traveling to Houston, but it doesn't seem to have worked. If they continue drawing interest from 40+ bands in Houston each year, I wouldn't be shocked to see BOA try to explore new opportunities in the area, whether it's an expanded regional format that adds some Friday night performances, or perhaps two simultaneous prelims sites like WGI does (theoretically could utilize Rhodes Stadium immediately south of this year's site, Legacy Stadium, for two 20- or 25-band prelims, with top 6 or 7 from each advancing to a 12- or 14-band finals). Another option would be turning it into a full-fledged super regional a week or two before San Antonio. a new super regional in Texas - - that would rock!!! - or do they split out the competition to 2 separate dates Conroe and Katy. not sure that would work as the season is already short, but great to see that much interest that they cannot meet the demand. in the 9 years I have been following BOA in Texas, we have seen the addition of Austin (most competitive regional in the state), McAllen and Midland - keep going - TXbands rock Band2013 1
LostChoirGuy Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 Waco came back, too. You have mentioned twice now about Austin being the most competitive regional and I was curious what metric you are using to decide that? Like I agree mostly, but am not so sure that it is as cut-and-dry as you make it seem, especially with how the DFW regional has been the last few years. I might do a little analysis of a few metrics comparing the most competitive regionals, including Austin, DFW, and Houston.
principalagent Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 Austin has recently been putting more of its bands into San Antonio finals, and Austin bands heading to Dallas and Conroe on the BOA circuit have often upped their placement relative to their placement at Austin (though consider the confounding variable of the fact that those bands have BOA feedback under their belts already). JeremiahW 1
TWHSParent Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 It gets to what is meant by "competitive". For me, competitive is more what it takes to succeed (say, make finals) than how bands at one contest place at later contests. At Houston last year, there were 3 bands within 1.1 points of 10th place, but at Austin the gap from 10th to 11th was 1.35 points. So to me the Houston contest in 2018 was more competitive, as there were more finals worthy bands. But each of us has a different metric for this, and that is certainly OK too.
Popular Post Samuel Culper Posted February 19, 2019 Popular Post Posted February 19, 2019 Offered without comment, here are the Finalists from Houston and Austin and the Top 10 from DFW Prelims (finals were cancelled) from last year, along with their finish in San Antonio: Houston 1 - Ronald Reagan - 2nd (Finals) 2 - Vandegrift - 7th (Finals) 3 - The Woodlands - 8th (Finals) 4 - James Bowie - 15th 5 - Cy-Fair - DNP 6 - Oak Ridge - 21st 7 - Seven Lakes - 24th 8 - Churchill - 22nd 9 - Taylor - 31st 10 - Brazoswood - DNP DFW 1 - Flower Mound - 1st (Finals) 2 - Hebron - 3rd (Finals) 3 - Keller - 9th (Finals) 4 - Cedar Park - 19th 5 - LD Bell - 14th (Finals) 6 - Timber Creek - 17th 7 - Union - DNP 8 - Waxahachie - DNP 9 - Prosper - 16th 10 - Wakeland - DNP Austin 1 - CTJ - 5th (Finals) 2 - Leander - 6th (Finals) 3 - Vandegrift - 7th (Finals) 4 - Vista Ridge - 4th (Finals) 5 - James Bowie - 15th 6 - Cedar Park - 19th 7 - Cedar Ridge - 10th (Finals) 8 - Hendrickson - 12th (Finals) 9 - Churchill - 22nd 10 - Round Rock - 26th gregorydf01, LHSbandDad and CTJBandPops 3
LeanderMomma Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 Interesting. Also interesting to note that Cedar Park and Bowie did much better earlier in the season but were passed by at the end. I’m curious to see what 2019 brings for those two bands.
CTJBandPops Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 4:47 AM, LostChoirGuy said: Waco came back, too. You have mentioned twice now about Austin being the most competitive regional and I was curious what metric you are using to decide that? Like I agree mostly, but am not so sure that it is as cut-and-dry as you make it seem, especially with how the DFW regional has been the last few years. I might do a little analysis of a few metrics comparing the most competitive regionals, including Austin, DFW, and Houston. as Samuel posted for 2018 -3 DFW finalist in SA, 4 Houston finalist in SA, 6 Austin Finalist in SA 2017 was 4 from DFW, 6 from Houston, and 7 from Austin. but that is being driven by costs - Austin is a cheap trip for SA and Austin programs - CTJ has not been back to Conroe in the past 2 seasons and I do not think any SA school has done DFW in about 6 years just from a cost perspective. All of that could change over time as we see more schools that are up and coming or coming back - just my thoughts
DrumCorpsGeek Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 7:28 PM, BandJunkies said: When does boa usually release the list of participant bands? Early May
TWHSParent Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 Since my definition would require a deeper look.... Houston 11 - Stephen F Austin - DNP 12 - Pearland - 25 13 - College Park - 23 14 - Obra D Tompkins - DNP 15 - Clear Brook - 29 16 - Westfield - DNP 17 - William B Travis - DNP 18 - Katy - DNP 19 - Del Rio - 46 20 - Cinco Ranch - DNP DFW 11 - Coppell - 18 12 - Keller Central - 30 13 - James Martin - 38 14 - Trinity - DNP 15 - Aledo - 48 16 - McKinney Boyd - DNP 17 - Duncanville - DNP 18 - Byron Nelson - DNP 19 - Forney - DNP 20 - Wylie - 44 Austin 11 - Pflugerville - 39 12 - Carroll - DNP 13 - Westwood - 33 14 - Rouse - 27 15 - Lake Travis - 28 16 - Weiss - 35 17 - Sandra Day O'Connor - 58 18 - New Braunfels - 49 19 - John Paul Stevens - DNP 20 - Wagner - 53 I still don't see this as defining how competitive a contest is, but it is a measure of the yearly quality of the programs attending. I took a quick look at the 20-30+ finishers. The final 3 finishers (21 - 23) from Austin attended, and finished 79, 80, and 84 respectively. Houston had 4 attend, finishing 36, 37, 64, and 69. I didn't see any from DFW, but I may have missed them. Anyway, it is interesting to see where the attendees ended up by the end of the season. Some made big gains and really improved from the early season regionals, Good stuff by all! NotLeanderMomma 1
DawsonBandAlumni Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 Dawsons' new head director is taking the band to both the Houston regional and the San Antonio super Regional. This is gonna be an exciting season for sure.
Guest Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 7:58 AM, DawsonBandAlumni said: Dawsons' new head director is taking the band to both the Houston regional and the San Antonio super Regional. This is gonna be an exciting season for sure. I believe this will he their first time attending a super regional.
LeanderMomma Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 7:58 AM, DawsonBandAlumni said: Dawsons' new head director is taking the band to both the Houston regional and the San Antonio super Regional. This is gonna be an exciting season for sure. VERY exciting!!
TX1345 Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 Richland has added Houston to their calendar along with Waco
Guest Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 Interesting. Very unpredictable band. Hope they find success!
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