Samuel Culper Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Texas Dates: Sept. 19 - McAllenSept. 26 - AustinOct. 3 - Midland and HoustonOct. 10 - Dallas/Ft. WorthOct. 17 - WacoOct. 30 and 31 - San Antonio Super RegionalNov. 12 through 14 - Grand National Championships Full Schedule: https://marching.musicforall.org/schedule/ Looks like Vista Ridge will not be defending their Midland title. It falls on the same day as the Vista Ridge Marching Festival. And Waco is on the same day as UIL Region for a lot of bands. Again. Quote
lhbenlee Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 So isn't BOA SA also on the same date as Area for 2A/4A/6A? Quote
BlueCircle Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 So isn't BOA SA also on the same date as Area for 2A/4A/6A? Area for those classifications is on the 24th. But 3A/5A Area falls on the same day as BOA SA. Quote
lhbenlee Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Area for those classifications is on the 24th. But 3A/5A Area falls on the same day as BOA SA. Thanks - I misread how the dates work. Quote
LostChoirGuy Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Interesting that Houston will now be on the same day as Midland instead of DFW. Quote
principalagent Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Can’t wait for San Antonio to fall on the same day as 6A area in 2021. Quote
gmtb617 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Interesting that Houston will now be on the same day as Midland instead of DFW. This makes me very happy. LeanderMomma and Avisshadow 2 Quote
gmtb617 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 No changes in venue at all this year for TX. Quote
BandFan95 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 WRONG THREAD! This is going to be so awesome!! Quote
LeanderMomma Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Area for those classifications is on the 24th. But 3A/5A Area falls on the same day as BOA SA. I sure hope it ain't mandatory to go to Area on an off-state year! Quote
LeanderMomma Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 September 19thBOA McAllen @ Veterans Memorial StadiumBOA Bowling Green (OH) @ Bowling Green State UniversityBOA Clarksville (TN) @ Austin Peay State UniversitySeptember 26thBOA Powder Springs (GA) @ McEachern H.S. (maybe)BOA Austin @ Kelly Reeves Athletic ComplexBOA Dayton (OH) @ Welcome StadiumOctober 3rdBOA Cedar Falls (IA) @ University of Northern IowaBOA Midland @ Grande Communications StadiumBOA Houston @ Legacy Stadium – Katy ISDBOA Obetz (OH) @ Fortress October 10thBOA College Park (MD) @ University of Maryland (maybe)BOA DFW @ Pennington Field (I guess they aren't moving this one any time soon??)BOA Johnson City (TN) @ East Tennessee State UniversityBOA Arizona @ ???? October 16-17SUPER REGIONAL – St. Louis, MO @ The Dome at America’s CenterBOA Virginia @ ????BOA Waco @ Baylor UniversityOctober 23-24SUPER REGIONAL – Indianapolis, IN @ Lucas Oil StadiumBOA Jacksonville (AL) @ Jacksonville State UniversityBOA Orlando @ Camping World StadiumOctober 30-31SUPER REGIONAL – San Antonio, TX @ The AlamodomeBOA St. George (UT) @ Dixie State UniversityNovember 7BOA Southern California @ ????November 12-14Grand National Championships – Indianapolis, IN @ Lucas Oil Stadium Quote
cpb161 Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 I sure hope it ain't mandatory to go to Area on an off-state year! It is not mandatory to go to any UIL event unless the school district enforces it. Personally, I fully expect to see Leander and Cedar Park, as well as perhaps Rouse at BOA SA instead of Area, LISD would more than likely be supportive of it, and those bands all have a shot at winning awards or making finals. Pretty much any 5A that has little to no shot at making finals or winning any class awards at SA will more than likely attend Area regardless of whether their district will make them or not. The only bands I could see this affecting that may wanna do SA and regularly does well is Wakeland, since Frisco ISD is very UIL focused and will more than likely want Wakeland to attend Area. Not sure about the Pville schools with Hendrickson and Weiss, I'd imagine they'd both wanna do SA, but I have no clue what their district would want. Hopefully people from the 5A programs in question can confirm here on txbands what their school is going to do. All in all, I doubt the conflict is going to really be a big deal this year, it's next year with 6A that we all have to worry about. Quote
LeanderMomma Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Hmmmm well I’m definitely concerned about 5A schools now that Leander is one. This is what makes me sad about moving down. People don’t really care about any bands other than 6A. That’s part of what I like about BOA classifications. There are great contenders in all classes across the nation. Quote
AlsoIntoSpace Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 So what do we think about Texas bands traveling out of state this year? I know there's usually a handful that go to St. Louis or even the Indy Super Regional, but I'm not sure what that'll look like with Area or certain Regions. Obviously Grand Nats is a separate topic with its date being well into November. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the only change I see this year is effectively switching the dates for Midland and D/FW. My guess is that since Houston and Midland are on opposite sides of the state, BOA put them on the same weekend because it's less likely that a band would attend both of those. Essentially, a D/FW band could possibly attend both D/FW and Houston or Midland, but a Houston band most likely wouldn't travel all the way to Midland. This is all assuming, of course, that there's a strategy here, but there's also just a good chance that one of the venues had a scheduling conflict. Personally, I have a feeling that 2020 will be something special, but maybe that's just me getting hyped about my senior year. Anyways, it'll be interesting to see who ends up going where. BandFan95 1 Quote
LeanderMomma Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 September 19th BOA McAllen @ Veterans Memorial Stadium BOA Bowling Green (OH) @ Bowling Green State University BOA Clarksville (TN) @ Austin Peay State University September 26th BOA Powder Springs (GA) @ McEachern H.S. (maybe) BOA Austin @ Kelly Reeves Athletic Complex BOA Dayton (OH) @ Welcome Stadium October 3rd BOA Cedar Falls (IA) @ University of Northern Iowa BOA Midland @ Grande Communications Stadium BOA Houston @ Legacy Stadium – Katy ISD BOA Obetz (OH) @ Fortress October 10th BOA College Park (MD) @ University of Maryland (maybe) BOA DFW @ Pennington Field (I guess they aren't moving this one any time soon??) BOA Johnson City (TN) @ East Tennessee State University BOA Arizona @ ???? October 16-17 SUPER REGIONAL – St. Louis, MO @ The Dome at America’s Center BOA Virginia @ ???? BOA Waco @ Baylor University October 23-24 SUPER REGIONAL – Indianapolis, IN @ Lucas Oil Stadium BOA Jacksonville (AL) @ Jacksonville State University BOA Orlando @ Camping World Stadium October 30-31 SUPER REGIONAL – San Antonio, TX @ The Alamodome BOA St. George (UT) @ Dixie State University November 7 BOA Southern California @ ???? November 12-14 Grand National Championships – Indianapolis, IN @ Lucas Oil Stadium Oh look, I already made one. Okay, I am going to do something useful now. Quote
TWHSParent Posted February 26, 2020 Posted February 26, 2020 And the current news from the Hornrank forum is that regionals will have 12 finalists, up from 10 (to be publicly announced tomorrow, 2/27). Supers and Grand Nationals will continue to have 14 and 12 respectively. gregorydf01 1 Quote
AlsoIntoSpace Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 And the current news from the Hornrank forum is that regionals will have 12 finalists, up from 10 (to be publicly announced tomorrow, 2/27). Supers and Grand Nationals will continue to have 14 and 12 respectively. I've got mixed feelings about this. Our band has missed finals but still been in the top 12 at a regional for each of the past two years (12th at Austin in 2018 and again at D/FW in 2019). On one hand we would've been thrilled to be in finals, but on the other hand, I felt like this upcoming year could've been the year we broke into that top 10. So while making finals still would still be exciting, I wouldn't want to make finals solely because they advance more bands. It would still be an accomplishment of course, but I'm not sure it would have the same sense of achievement. But then again, there's certainly plenty of bands that missed finals that I think a lot of people thought should've been in finals (most notably, Round Rock missing finals in Austin this year). Regardless, it'll be interesting to see how this shakes things up. The only I've got question is how local BOA Regional-esque competitions will react. For example, would the HEB Marching Contest and Texas Marching Classic expand to 12 finalists too, or would they stay at 10? Quote
TWHSParent Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 I've got mixed feelings about this. Our band has missed finals but still been in the top 12 at a regional for each of the past two years (12th at Austin in 2018 and again at D/FW in 2019). On one hand we would've been thrilled to be in finals, but on the other hand, I felt like this upcoming year could've been the year we broke into that top 10. So while making finals still would still be exciting, I wouldn't want to make finals solely because they advance more bands. It would still be an accomplishment of course, but I'm not sure it would have the same sense of achievement. But then again, there's certainly plenty of bands that missed finals that I think a lot of people thought should've been in finals (most notably, Round Rock missing finals in Austin this year). Regardless, it'll be interesting to see how this shakes things up. The only I've got question is how local BOA Regional-esque competitions will react. For example, would the HEB Marching Contest and Texas Marching Classic expand to 12 finalists too, or would they stay at 10? Your question is an interesting one - another contest is the one The Woodlands hosts (Lone Star Preview), which is BOA style rules to the core (including BOA judging sheets). As the ripples of this change expand, I'll probably reach out to a couple people to see if there is going to be a change to account for a 12 band finals per the updated BOA rules. Quote
Samuel Culper Posted February 27, 2020 Author Posted February 27, 2020 Your question is an interesting one - another contest is the one The Woodlands hosts (Lone Star Preview), which is BOA style rules to the core (including BOA judging sheets). As the ripples of this change expand, I'll probably reach out to a couple people to see if there is going to be a change to account for a 12 band finals per the updated BOA rules. If a given contest only charges one admission - not separate admissions for Prelims and Finals - there would be little reason to expand the Finals field. Just my $.02. Quote
An Inspirational Pinecone Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 Your question is an interesting one - another contest is the one The Woodlands hosts (Lone Star Preview), which is BOA style rules to the core (including BOA judging sheets). As the ripples of this change expand, I'll probably reach out to a couple people to see if there is going to be a change to account for a 12 band finals per the updated BOA rules. I really don't think enough bands participate in the LSP for it to have a 12 band finals. I'd say it averages around 18 bands per year so to allow 2/3 of that into finals makes it more like an exclusion rather than a recognition. And don't they have another sheet for color guard? They have a color guard caption and everything Quote
TWHSParent Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 I really don't think enough bands participate in the LSP for it to have a 12 band finals. I'd say it averages around 18 bands per year so to allow 2/3 of that into finals makes it more like an exclusion rather than a recognition. And don't they have another sheet for color guard? They have a color guard caption and everything They have color guard, percussion, and a general audio commentary judge. Those are additional items and not incorporated into the placements. The music (individual and ensemble), visual (individual and ensemble), and GE (2 music/1 visual) judges sheets are the BOA sheets and those are the only scores that count for placements. Forgot to comment on the attendees - it really depends. I've seen it with 20+. 2 years ago it was 14 I believe, and we invited all 14 to perform in finals. Last year was 18 or 19. We'll see about scheduling vs region contests for 6A in the Houston area. Quote
DanielHendrickson23 Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 So what do we think about Texas bands traveling out of state this year? I know there's usually a handful that go to St. Louis or even the Indy Super Regional, but I'm not sure what that'll look like with Area or certain Regions. Obviously Grand Nats is a separate topic with its date being well into November. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the only change I see this year is effectively switching the dates for Midland and D/FW. My guess is that since Houston and Midland are on opposite sides of the state, BOA put them on the same weekend because it's less likely that a band would attend both of those. Essentially, a D/FW band could possibly attend both D/FW and Houston or Midland, but a Houston band most likely wouldn't travel all the way to Midland. This is all assuming, of course, that there's a strategy here, but there's also just a good chance that one of the venues had a scheduling conflict. Personally, I have a feeling that 2020 will be something special, but maybe that's just me getting hyped about my senior year. Anyways, it'll be interesting to see who ends up going where. From Hendrickson we can guarantee that we are traveling to BOA St Louis this year to compete LeanderMomma 1 Quote
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