2021 Texas Marching Classic (Oct. 9)

[Hard Core Band Fan]

53 minutes ago, abtwitch said:

I think the guy just doesn’t like Round Rock cause he never got on to criticize CTJ for going to contests like BOA McAllen and Midland, Judson Rocket Review, or Rough Rider. Or look at Burleson Centennial dropping BOA Austin to instead attend a local USBands competition which they won by nearly 4 points. Or Hebron and Flower Mound going to local contests where they absolutely dominated. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Programs should be able to choose what contests they want to go to for any reason they like, whether it’s for “competitive strategy,” experience for the kids, loyalty to another program, or whatever. What matters at the end of the day is that the kids are getting out there and performing their show in spite of everything that’s going on around them. 

I didn't read anyone saying that they didn't like Round Rock. It's a shame that your reading comprehension is so poor.

 

[Time Warp]

15 minutes ago, Hard Core Band Fan said:

I didn't read anyone saying that they didn't like Round Rock. It's a shame that your reading comprehension is so poor.

 

They made a very valid point and you ignored what they said completely. 

[Time Warp]

4 hours ago, banddad84 said:

not sure why everyone gets so bent when someone makes a comment about strategy, I took a similar beating earlier this year when I made a comment about a program spending a great deal of money to go to Grand Nats but not attending any other BOA Events that year or even in the past few years.

Every program uses a different approach and that is there right. but you would think that you would want to get another opportunity to compete in your back yard against some of the same programs you will see again at BOA-SA as well as in Indy and get comments from the adjudicators on the performance opinions so you can make adjustments before SA and G Nats.

It has been mentioned that CTJ will be attending this year, this will be there first time here since 2012. Why? Because, while TMC is not a BOA Event it is mostly scored like one. 2 of the Music judges from BOA Austin will also be at TMC and it is a chance to see what they think of your progress over the past 2 weeks . and many of the same judges that are at TMC will also be at BOA-SA and more importantly at Grand Nats. so you want those comments now so you can adjust to their comments in hopes of elevating those scores at the later events scored by the same judges.

I tried to make that same point with the beating I took earlier this year. if you are going all in to spend $400K to make a trip to Indy, you would think you would want to get your band in front of those judges as often as possible to get those opinions - especially if they will be judging you again later in the season. just my thoughts.

 

I agree with your assessment but I agree less with the other posters.

 

What you’re saying makes sense. For example, why is Flower Mound favoring UIL over BOA on one of their few National years? Why aren’t they getting those kids in front of BOA judges who are using the same scale the National ones will. Why is Flower Mound skipping San Antonio on the one year it will be most useful to them. 
 

I think you’re making the point in a little bit less of an aggressive pointy way. Honestly I think Round Rocks case with the Westlake contest is probably the only slight exception to the rule, simply out of common courtesy for the Westlake program at least. It may not be the most logical contest wise but some things just supersede that. We have to know when to put aside competition and put forwards our community.

[principalagent]

To be fair, from what I’ve heard through the grapevine, Flower Mound didn’t make their choice on their own accord. For things like that, school administrations matter too (not just district, but the school itself). 
 

also, these programs at this caliber have constant feedback from BOA judges outside of competitions. They come in and clinic, watch videos, speak personally with directors, etc. Even without the direct comparison, there are still many checkpoints along the way. There have been years that Mason or BA just walk into Grand Nationals without having been to a BOA all season and they’re just fine. 

[LeanderMomma]

1 hour ago, Dog885 said:

Thank you for getting us back on topic. I wonder when or if Dripping Springs will be taken off the TMC schedule because of their new listing for Westlake

I’m so disappointed they dropped!!!

[LeanderMomma]

Oh and I don’t really have an opinion on Round Rock choosing Westlake over TMC. I think they’ve just always gone and supported the Westlake band with this festival and I know they enjoy the success they have had there all these years. It’s like a comfortable sweater. It might look less fancy than what the trendy folks are wearing, but it’s cozy and familiar, and it just makes you feel good to wear it. ? And at the end of the day, sometimes it’s just about the basics. 

[Nny14]

27 minutes ago, principalagent said:

To be fair, from what I’ve heard through the grapevine, Flower Mound didn’t make their choice on their own accord. For things like that, school administrations matter too (not just district, but the school itself). 
 

also, these programs at this caliber have constant feedback from BOA judges outside of competitions. They come in and clinic, watch videos, speak personally with directors, etc. Even without the direct comparison, there are still many checkpoints along the way. There have been years that Mason or BA just walk into Grand Nationals without having been to a BOA all season and they’re just fine. 

The funniest part of this is Round Rock literally has a rehearsal today with Gary Markham, the Chief judge of Bands of America. But they aren't trying enough to get feedback ? 

[LeanderMomma]

How did we even get on this topic!?  ? And why am I not even remotely concerned about the Dragon Band?  They good, y’all!

[LeanderMomma]

2 hours ago, Dog885 said:

Thank you for getting us back on topic. I wonder when or if Dripping Springs will be taken off the TMC schedule because of their new listing for Westlake

It’s been changed now. 

[abtwitch]

Sad to see Dripping Springs drop, but I'll take every minute of sleep I can get! I'm not getting into Austin until 2am Saturday morning.

[Time Warp]

6 minutes ago, Roman Koval said:

Nothing it is just my sign. I'm a member of this music community. I'm a young musician, so it is the tool for learning musical technics and practice. Sorry if it's bothering you.

 

This reply definitely doesn’t sound weird.

[LeanderMomma]

7 hours ago, Roman Koval said:

Nothing it is just my sign. I'm a member of this music community. I'm a young musician, so it is the tool for learning musical technics and practice. Sorry if it's bothering you.


https://musescore.com/community

No worries. I was just making sure it wasn’t a spam account. We get those every now and then and we like to keep it spamfree in here. 

[MoonLite]

Can you believe that there's only 3 (technically 4 if you count today) days left before TMC?!?!?!

[NTXBandFan]

On 10/5/2021 at 3:59 PM, Time Warp said:

I agree with your assessment but I agree less with the other posters.

 

What you’re saying makes sense. For example, why is Flower Mound favoring UIL over BOA on one of their few National years? Why aren’t they getting those kids in front of BOA judges who are using the same scale the National ones will. Why is Flower Mound skipping San Antonio on the one year it will be most useful to them. 
 

I think you’re making the point in a little bit less of an aggressive pointy way. Honestly I think Round Rocks case with the Westlake contest is probably the only slight exception to the rule, simply out of common courtesy for the Westlake program at least. It may not be the most logical contest wise but some things just supersede that. We have to know when to put aside competition and put forwards our community.

It's a 5 hour drive from Flower Mound to San Antonio.

If they perform on Friday evening, they would have to leave early Nov 5, and miss school to be able to be able to perform that evening.
Then there's 1 night at a hotel, and the long day in San Antonio on Nov 6.

6A state is Nov 8 & 9, which means 3 more nights at a hotel and 2 more days of missed school.
They get back home late Nov9/early Nov10.  Then go to school on Nov 10.
Grand Nats is Nov 11-13.  They would likely perform Nov 12, which means they need to leave late Nov 10 or early Nov 11(if taking a bus), in order to have time to rest, recover, and rehearse.

Another night in a hotel.

Perform on Nov 12, and another night in a hotel.

Perform Nov 13 then head home to arrive sometime Nov14.

All told, if they go to BOA SA, they will be missing 5 days of school, and spending 6 nights hotels, and 3 nights at home or on a bus in the span of 10 days.

If they skip BOA SA, then they cut out up to 3 nights of hotel, and save 1 day of school.
And keep in mind that they all have to be fed during all of this.

That's a lot of money, and strain on the families and kids

[LeanderMomma]

2 hours ago, NTXBandFan said:

That's a lot of money, and strain on the families and kids

Absolutely!  I get it for sure. 

[Rubisco]

The day of clarity is upon us! Or maybe confusion!

I know how I would rank the groups here going into the contest, but my thoughts/feelings aren't strong enough that I would expect the panel to agree with them.

[BandFan59]

Any updates from anyone at this contest? Shame this one doesn't have a livestream

[SoundOff]

Leander’s show this year is amazing!!! I love all of their shows however this is one just seems so fitting. Like a puzzle piece. Short Ride as an opener…amazing! 

[gregorydf01]

5 minutes ago, BandFan59 said:

Any updates from anyone at this contest? Shame this one doesn't have a livestream

"Leandermomma" Instagram's feed has some short recordings from the bands today.   Also TX Bands is has the live blog going on this one.  You can click on the 2nd link on the Txbands Liveblog page.

[SoundOff]

Huge thank you to Leandermomma & whoever runs the live blog for providing us with all of these updates! Can’t be in Texas right now but man I feel as if I’m right there watching all these performances. 

[SoundOff]

Prelims was amazing. Every band proved that they needed to be at that competition. I can’t wait for the results!!! 

[MikeKyu]

Not at Kelly Reeves (we're eating dinner at The League). What's up with the delay?

[BandFan59]

1 minute ago, Eelisee said:

I heard Rouse got disqualified for a timing penalty.

If true that's a terrible thing to happen to any band. The students must be devastated

[MJM2005]

Are the results out?

[MikeKyu]

Coming out now. Just a bit delayed