2021 BOA Grand Nationals (Nov. 11-13)

[LeanderMomma]

Grand Nationals Schedule (as of 10/19/21):

Texas bands are in bold—total of 7.

Thursday, November 11

Panel 1
TBA 8:15
TBA 8:30
John Hardin H.S., KY 8:45
Meade County H.S., KY 9:00
Clinton-Massie H.S., OH 9:15
Norton H.S., OH 9:30
Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH 9:45
St. Clairsville H.S., OH 10:00
Springboro H.S., OH 10:15
Warren Local H.S., OH 10:30
Milton-Union H.S., OH 10:45
Archbishop Alter H.S., OH 11:00
Indianapolis Public Schools Music Showcase 

Panel 2
Bentonville H.S., AR 11:45
Davenport Central H.S., IA 12:00
Bishop Fenwick H.S., OH 12:15
Christian County H.S., KY 12:30
Boyle County H.S., KY 12:45
Columbus North H.S., IN 1:00
Fairborn H.S., OH 1:15
Christian Academy of Louisville, KY 1:30
Indian Hill H.S., OH 1:45
Hamilton H.S., OH 2:00
Hardin Valley Academy, TN 2:15
Miamisburg H.S., OH 2:30
Lake Hamilton H.S., AR 2:45

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Panel 1
Tippecanoe H.S., OH 3:30
Easley H.S., SC 3:45
Central Crossing H.S., OH 4:00
Homestead H.S., IN 4:15
Greenon Jr./Sr. H.S., OH 4:30
Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 4:45
Plymouth-Canton Ed. Park, MI 5:00
Monrovia H.S., IN 5:15
Marcus H.S., TX 5:30
Castle H.S., IN 5:45
Piqua H.S., OH 6:00
Chattahoochee H.S., GA 6:15
Nixa H.S., MO 6:30
William Mason H.S., OH 6:45

BREAK 

Panel 2
Center Grove H.S., IN 7:30
Lawrence Township, IN 7:45
Avon H.S., IN 8:00
Huron Valley, MI 8:15
Carmel H.S., IN 8:30
Talawanda H.S., OH 8:45
Fishers H.S., IN 9:00
Lakota East H.S., OH 9:15
Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV 9:30
O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 9:45
Carroll H.S., OH 10:00
Wando H.S., SC 10:15
Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX 10:30


Friday, November 12

Panel 1
Logan Elm H.S., OH 7:00
Estill County H.S., KY 7:15
Ronald Reagan H.S., TX 7:30
Blue Springs H.S., MO 7:45
Rosemount H.S., MN 8:00
Signal Mountain H.S., TN 8:15
Vista Ridge H.S., TX 8:30
Broken Arrow H.S., OK 8:45
Flower Mound H.S., TX 9:00
DeSoto Central H.S., MS 9:15
Neosho H.S., MO 9:30
Mark Twain H.S., MO 9:45
Mustang H.S., OK 10:00

BREAK 

Panel 2
The Woodlands H.S., TX 10:45
Nordonia H.S., OH 11:00
Collinsville H.S., IL 11:15
Rockford H.S., MI 11:30
Lebanon H.S., OH 11:45
Greendale H.S., WI 12:00
Greenfield Central H.S., IN 12:15
Central Hardin H.S., KY 12:30
Mount Pleasant H.S., MI 12:45
University H.S., IL 1:00
Northmont H.S., OH 1:15
Russell Independent H.S., KY 1:30
Cleveland H.S., NC 1:45

BREAK 

Panel 1
Hollister H.S., MO 2:30
Morton H.S., IL 2:45
Munster H.S., IN 3:00
Danville H.S., IL 3:15
Beechwood H.S., KY 3:30
Brownsburg H.S., IN 3:45
Round Rock H.S., TX 4:00
East Clinton H.S., OH 4:15
Centerville H.S., OH 4:30
Pulaski County H.S., KY 4:45
Lake Central H.S., IN 5:00
Marian Catholic H.S., IL 5:15

BREAK 

Panel 2
Murray H.S., KY 6:00
Jenison H.S., MI 6:15
Grayson County H.S., KY 6:30
Collinsville H.S., OK 6:45
Owen County H.S., KY 7:00
Carlisle H.S., OH 7:15
Bourbon County H.S., KY 7:30
Anderson County H.S., KY 7:45
Milford H.S., OH 8:00
Norwin H.S., PA 8:15
Franklin H.S., TN 8:30

Exhibition: Murray State University 8:45

Edited October 20, 2021 by LeanderMomma
Updated with the schedule

[LeanderMomma]

Besides the seven (possibly eight) 6A Texas bands attending, the following bands are also more than highly capable of making finals:

Avon HS, IN

Blue Springs HS, MO (rumored to be coming)

Broken Arrow HS, OK

Carmel HS, IN

Dobyns-Bennett HS, TN

Homestead HS, IN

Mason HS, OH

Tarpon Springs HS, FL

(There are also rumors of LD Bell attending).

Craziest GN year to date, hands down.

 

[CTJBandPops]

  On 5/3/2021 at 9:35 PM, LeanderMomma said:

I’m going to make a separate thread from the #teamTexas GN thread so we can also have a place to discuss nonTexas bands attending Grand Nationals this fall.   The following bands are confirmed.  

(as of  5/3/21):

Ardrey Kell H.S., NC
Avon H.S., IN
Beechwood H.S., KY
Bentonville H.S., AR
Boyle County H.S., KY
Broken Arrow H.S., OK
Bourbon County H.S., KY
Carmel H.S., IN
Center Grove H.S., IN
Centerville H.S., OH
Central Crossing H.S., OH
Central Hardin H.S., KY
Chattahoochee H.S., GA
Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX
Collinsville H.S., IL
Collinsville H.S., OK
Columbus High Schools, IN
Danville H.S., IL
Davenport Central H.S., IN
Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN
Easley H.S., SC
East Clinton H.S., OH
Fishers H.S., IN
Flower Mound H.S., TX
Franklin H.S., TN
Greendale H.S., WI
Greenfield-Central H.S., IN
Hamilton H.S., OH
Hardin Valley Academy, TN
Hollister H.S., MO
Homestead H.S., IN
Jenison H.S., MI
Lake Central H.S., IN
Lakeland H.S., MI
Lakota East H.S., OH
Lawrence Township H.S., IN
Lebanon H.S., OH
Marcus H.S., TX
Miamisburg H.S., OH
Milford H.S., OH
Milton-Union H.S., OH
Morton H.S., IL
Munster H.S., IN
Mustang H.S., OK
Neosho H.S., MO
Noblesville H.S., IN
Norton H.S., OH
Pinecrest Academy of Cadence, NV
Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI
Rockford H.S., MI
Ronald Reagan H.S., TX
Rosemount H.S., MN
Round Rock H.S., TX
Signal Mountain H.S., TN
Talawanda H.S., OH
Tarpon Springs H.S., FL
The Woodlands H.S., TX
Vista Ridge H.S., TX
Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH
William Mason H.S., OH
Wills Point H.S., TX
Windermere H.S., FL

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I don't mean to sound disrespectful to Wills Point, but all that I have looked shows that while we have never heard of them in the BOA world, I do not see that they have competed in BOA in DFW (their closest event) or at any BOA event in 2018 or 2019. to think that they are making a trek to Indy without tipping their toes into the BOA realm is not a likely event. - again, no disrespect intended, but I am just not buying that

 

[LeanderMomma]

  On 5/4/2021 at 4:14 AM, banddad84 said:

I don't mean to sound disrespectful to Wills Point, but all that I have looked shows that while we have never heard of them in the BOA world, I do not see that they have competed in BOA in DFW (their closest event) or at any BOA event in 2018 or 2019. to think that they are making a trek to Indy without tipping their toes into the BOA realm is not a likely event. - again, no disrespect intended, but I am just not buying that

 

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I wasn’t including them in my likely finalist list. They are a 4A school and I was referring to the 6A schools attending.

[principalagent]

Wando is also going from what I hear. 

[CTJBandPops]

  On 5/6/2021 at 8:55 PM, principalagent said:

Wando is also going from what I hear. 

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I have heard the same - looking forward to seeing their show this year

[JeremiahW]

  On 5/6/2021 at 8:55 PM, principalagent said:

Wando is also going from what I hear. 

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Has anyone heard how the split is affecting them so far? Lucy Beckham High School opened Fall 2020 with freshmen and sophomores only, and will add the junior class this fall.

[Dave609]

  On 5/4/2021 at 4:14 AM, banddad84 said:

I don't mean to sound disrespectful to Wills Point, but all that I have looked shows that while we have never heard of them in the BOA world, I do not see that they have competed in BOA in DFW (their closest event) or at any BOA event in 2018 or 2019. to think that they are making a trek to Indy without tipping their toes into the BOA realm is not a likely event. - again, no disrespect intended, but I am just not buying that

 

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I've faced them before in UIL Area, they beat us by one point in 2016 to go to state, and in 2018, we placed higher then them at both Area and State. They are a good program, but I do agree with you on that they may want to start at a contest in DFW and then go for Grand Nationals. Has there been bands that have done this before? Like go to Grand Nationals before competing in other BOA Contests?

[CTJBandPops]

  On 5/7/2021 at 8:11 PM, Dave609 said:

I've faced them before in UIL Area, they beat us by one point in 2016 to go to state, and in 2018, we placed higher then them at both Area and State. They are a good program, but I do agree with you on that they may want to start at a contest in DFW and then go for Grand Nationals. Has there been bands that have done this before? Like go to Grand Nationals before competing in other BOA Contests?

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not sure if there has been but most directors that are going to Grand Nats want to get in front of the judges a few times in the season to get the judges comments on the show. many times the judges that are at the larger BOA events are also the judges that are at Grand Nats and that input is valuable as BOA does not judge/score the same as the non-BOA or UIL events

[LeanderMomma]

What about when Whitesboro went in 2016?  I don’t remember seeing them before GN at other BOA contests. 

[CTJBandPops]

  On 5/7/2021 at 9:51 PM, LeanderMomma said:

What about when Whitesboro went in 2016?  I don’t remember seeing them before GN at other BOA contests. 

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Whitesboro attended BOA Austin in 2016 (finished 30th of 31 Bands) BOA Dallas (finished 29th of 31 Bands) before competing at Grand Nationals (79th of 100 Bands) that year

I do not see that they competed in BOA prior to that or that they have done BOA since that time. it appears that they do non-BOA events like teh HEB marching contest, so I would assume that it was 1 year "dip your toes in" kinda thing. 

[TWHSParent]

  On 5/7/2021 at 9:51 PM, LeanderMomma said:

What about when Whitesboro went in 2016?  I don’t remember seeing them before GN at other BOA contests. 

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While not a TX band, I think Forest Hills Schools, OH made GN semi-finals in 2019 without attending any other BOA contests.

[CTJBandPops]

  On 5/8/2021 at 8:32 PM, TWHSParent said:

While not a TX band, I think Forest Hills Schools, OH made GN semi-finals in 2019 without attending any other BOA contests.

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without a doubt - I am sure that there are many schools such as the ones in the West that do not have much BOA to speak due to where they are located that make the trek - but for a Texas band that has 6 regionals and a super regional within the state would not take advantage of those shows before making that kind of financial investment of Indy. again, just my thoughts

[TWHSParent]

  On 5/8/2021 at 9:40 PM, banddad84 said:

without a doubt - I am sure that there are many schools such as the ones in the West that do not have much BOA to speak due to where they are located that make the trek - but for a Texas band that has 6 regionals and a super regional within the state would not take advantage of those shows before making that kind of financial investment of Indy. again, just my thoughts

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I agree. And Forest Hills is in the Cincinnati area, so not that far from Indy. They had 3 or so regionals in 2019 (Louisville, Columbus, and Muncie) within a couple hours, plus the Indy super. They took the trek to GN but it isn't as big a hit as from farther away.

[youcansound]

  On 5/8/2021 at 9:40 PM, banddad84 said:

without a doubt - I am sure that there are many schools such as the ones in the West that do not have much BOA to speak due to where they are located that make the trek - but for a Texas band that has 6 regionals and a super regional within the state would not take advantage of those shows before making that kind of financial investment of Indy. again, just my thoughts

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I think you’re speaking from an unnecessarily privileged mindset. A lot of bands like Whitesboro and Wills Point don’t have the sufficient funds to attend the 6 regionals Claudia Taylor Johnson attends yearly and I bet they sure are sorry they don’t have a Whataburger sponsorship to fall back on.

They’re going for the experience, talk to the Whitesboro kids that went in 2016 they loved it. Talk to the Colleyville Heritage kids that went in 2008. It’s not all about the bedazzling final finishes Claudia Taylor Johnson can seemingly fund every two years. You only care about placements not the student experience. You’d take the kids hating marching over a bottom 7 finish at the SASR or a bottom 6 finish at the GN Championships. You only care about placements from your privileged mindset.

If Wills Point has decided to save money to go to Grand Nationals then why are you acting so prissy and passive aggressive about it?

They obviously know that even a class championship is a reach AND THEY DON’T CARE THEY CAR ABOUT THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE UNLIKE YOU!!!!!

CTJ is such a historically accomplished program and yet they still try and put others down. It’s unbelievable it truly is.

[Samuel Culper]

Was somebody really putting somebody down?  Or is somebody being overly sensitive and defensive?

Inquiring minds want to know...

[LeanderMomma]

  On 5/9/2021 at 4:44 AM, youcansound said:

CTJ is such a historically accomplished program and yet they still try and put others down. It’s unbelievable it truly is.

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Never have I EVER heard the CTJ band put other bands down. Ever. 

[CTJBandPops]

  On 5/9/2021 at 4:44 AM, youcansound said:

I think you’re speaking from an unnecessarily privileged mindset. A lot of bands like Whitesboro and Wills Point don’t have the sufficient funds to attend the 6 regionals Claudia Taylor Johnson attends yearly and I bet they sure are sorry they don’t have a Whataburger sponsorship to fall back on.

They’re going for the experience, talk to the Whitesboro kids that went in 2016 they loved it. Talk to the Colleyville Heritage kids that went in 2008. It’s not all about the bedazzling final finishes Claudia Taylor Johnson can seemingly fund every two years. You only care about placements not the student experience. You’d take the kids hating marching over a bottom 7 finish at the SASR or a bottom 6 finish at the GN Championships. You only care about placements from your privileged mindset.

If Wills Point has decided to save money to go to Grand Nationals then why are you acting so prissy and passive aggressive about it?

They obviously know that even a class championship is a reach AND THEY DON’T CARE THEY CAR ABOUT THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE UNLIKE YOU!!!!!

CTJ is such a historically accomplished program and yet they still try and put others down. It’s unbelievable it truly is.

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if you want to say that the CTJ program is privileged, it is only because we have hundreds of parents that put in thousands of hours to fundraise and support the program like every other program in the state. make no mistake, the program struggles with funding like every other program in the state and work tirelessly to ensure that no student is turned away from performing due to funding and that is no easy task. 

to clarify, CTJ does not have a "cash cow" in whataburger as it is not that kind of sponsorship, CTJ does not attend 6 BOA regionals a year - they are going to Austin (90 miles away) and BOASA (in our back yard, that our program serves as the host school) CTJ does not attend GNats every 2 years - while they were there in 2019, that was the 3rd trip in their 13 year history.

to imply that CTJ is just about placements tells me that you know nothing about the program and what it teaches our kids. at the end of the day it is about putting the best performance on the field and being proud of that accomplishment and knowing that you gave it everything you had. the program has been known to stick to their style of entertaining the crowd, even at the expense of the norms of UIL and such.

at no time did I state or imply that Wills Point, Whitesboro, or any other program should not attend grand nats - just that I do not understand why a program would make that investment to attend without first competing at a local BOA regional. that was all, and had nothing to do with "cancelling" them or exercising my privilege as you have stated.

if you took something from my earlier posts that implied that I was somehow putting down Wills Point or any other program, I apologize, as that was never my intent, and would appreciate you not making your privilege comments about the CTJ program based on something you took from my post, our kids deserve better than that.

 

[abtwitch]

Super glad to see Norwin back! 

[LeanderMomma]

Happy to see O’Fallon (IL) added to this and the St Louis contests today. Wonder if they’ll march on a tarp this year…

[Samuel Culper]

Bought my plane tickets to Indy this morning!  Woo-hoo!

[LeanderMomma]

  On 6/10/2021 at 1:50 PM, Samuel Culper said:

Bought my plane tickets to Indy this morning!  Woo-hoo!

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Can’t wait!  ???

[LeanderMomma]

Wills Point HS in Texas is not attending this contest. We are now sending 7 bands to GN. 

[J-Mike16]

Nooooooooo!

[CTJBandPops]

for those that are no longer affiliated with a marching program and are going to Grand Nationals - tickets will go on sale tomorrow Sept 1st at 12 Noon Eastern Time

good luck and hope to see you all there

https://marching.musicforall.org/grandnationals/