2021 6A UIL SMBC (Nov. 8 & 9)

[LeanderMomma]

On 11/11/2021 at 2:53 AM, FloMoBandMom said:

By outro, do you mean the thing the announcer reads as they are rolling everything off the field after the performance? If so, thanks for noticing and listening--I wrote that! (Rhyming something with Midwest Clinic, not so easy!)

Wow!  You go, Momma!!!!!!

[Mash]

Does anyone have a video of the shark band?  I kinda really want to see that show

[Tubalord11]

32 minutes ago, Mash said:

Does anyone have a video of the shark band?  I kinda really want to see that show

https://youtu.be/0DLZymJphY0

[Mash]

Thanks

[Tubalord11]

43 minutes ago, Mash said:

Thanks

No problem! Saw this show live in semis and was thinking what the heck is this while laughing and then the show was actually really good.

[Mash]

I love the fact that it is fun!

[BandDad4]

On 11/14/2021 at 6:40 PM, whenthebandbeginstoplay said:

Props don’t mean higher score I’m tired of this stupid idiotic argument. See Ronald Reagan 2019, see Broken Arrow 2006

Props, music, pagentry, show, writers ... It all costs big money and only those with the ability spend it will be able to compete at the highest level.

[whenthebandbeginstoplay]

1 hour ago, BandDad4 said:

Props, music, pagentry, show, writers ... It all costs big money and only those with the ability spend it will be able to compete at the highest level.

You can’t change a users original point when it becomes inconvenient for you

[CTJBandPops]

3 hours ago, BandDad4 said:

Props, music, pagentry, show, writers ... It all costs big money and only those with the ability spend it will be able to compete at the highest level.

Props are not required and how much did the props that Broken Arrow have add to their show? was that a deciding factor? they sure looked expensive to build and even more to haul from OK.

there is much to be said about what a program spends on drill designers and other expense, so what do you propose to make this fair for everyone. do we limit the amount that a program can spend? do we ban props? do we require that every program write their own drill and arrange their own music? do we restrict the private lessons of their students? do we limit who they can bring in to consult?

Avon and Carmel spend next to nothing to go to Grand Nats and get to go every year. they sleep in their own beds every night for their super regional and grand nats. They do not have to deal with a 8 hour rule as it appears to be unique to Texas. That is my bigger concern.

Every program has the ability to fundraise to support their programs. I am not talking about just selling coupon books and/or mulch. 

I have been doing fundraising outside of the student families for a number of years. the programs that claim that they struggle actually have the advantage as they can quickly qualify for grants. the schools that are in affluent areas do not, as every school and district is rated in a system that grant supporters want to see.

Your program may a high income demographic and fail to qualify for support, but have a huge transient population in the means of apartments/rentals that need support - especially if you are in an area that supports a military base - moving every 3 years.

Our program is considered by far too many to be an affluent program - but our cluster foundation provided more than $50K in support this season for marching scholarships for Grand Nats, for one of our middle schools to do Midwest clinic, for instruments at other schools. This funding was to support kids that would not otherwise be able to participate based on their financial situation. 

If you think that the "affluent" schools do not have a free lunch program - you are mistaken.

I would welcome and be more interested in any thoughts on how we can ensure that every kid has the ability to perform in the marching arts - and I would support anything that is reasonable, but let's not assume that the only means it to provide for some is to take away from others. 

[vistaridgefan42069]

money does play a factor and likely always will, but its definitely not through props or uniforms or whatever people like to argue. more affluent programs have access to more expensive lesson teachers and clinicians, an easier time getting instruments repaired, reliable electronics (these don’t actually exist haha), and more time can be spent rehearsing because salaried parents can take more time off to help out and whatever. adding a spending cap effectively does nothing at all to boost programs without these inherent benefits.

[MilBandDude]

Here is my take on the money gap issue. Yes it is an issue to a point, especially at BOA where they put so much more emphases on showmanship. Money buys you custom show specific uniforms, buys the best show music and choreography, buys the best private teachers, buys the best group teachers, buys the best instruments and keeps them in top shape, allows for the best travel conditions, buys the best custom made props, buys the best electronics and attracts the best band directors. Is there a gap? Of course there is a gap, just like most professional sports faced years ago before they implemented salary caps. You cannot fix the issue by limiting the money though because it is spent in so many places other than props or uniforms. Plus, you have the issue of most states not having the 8 hour rule like Texas does for example. In Texas you get 8 hours per week period and trust me they watch it. Most of the bands at the top of the BOA have little real limits to practice time even into the summer. Like in pro sports this issue will become more and more pronounced as the haves get more and the have nots get less. Success breeds success after all. You also have the smaller issue with band sizes. Look at the top bands and they are typically at or over 200 members. Smaller bands with 150 just have issues matching that blasting style that BOA like so much these days. Also don’t forget that bands that live in Indiana or very close have an advantage that they are always playing on home turf. Some bands have to scrap and scrounge for the money to get to Indianapolis every 4 -6 years and then travel 16-20 hours by bus and then play almost as soon as they arrive. Others just roll out of bed and play at Lucas Oil every year. And don’t think home field advantage is not real because a place like Lucas Oil Stadium is marked up differently that High School or College fields and that does affect the bands. Money for stuff is an issue, but I think having to travel so far, band size and being handicapped by the 8 hour rule really hurts some.

The only thing I can think of, and I know it will never happen, is have 2 categories for BOA. One could be Show Band and the other could be Marching Band. Show bands could be anything goes within each states own rules. You want Grand Pianos, a Choir, custom themed uniforms, Banjos, add your schools symphony orchestra, put up a circus tent or a giant inflatable Panda then go for it. Marching Bands could be limited in what they can put on the field in some way. They could still have props, but not to the extent of the Show Bands. More scoring emphasis could be put on actual marching and actual music and less on general effect unless by general effect you mean how a bands marching and music make you feel.

[danielneubecker]

does anyone have the full in detail finals recap

 

[LeanderMomma]

13 hours ago, danielneubecker said:

does anyone have the full in detail finals recap

 

https://smbc.uiltexas.org/
 

 

[Ramos_bari]

anyone recorded the stream im still looking for my band dm me plz