2 questions

[Aegis Fang]

1) If a section leader calls a sectional, and the directors or any non-student people are at a sectional, does it count towards the eight hour rule? Like if I call a trumpet sectional, the only people there are me and the rest of my section, no adults or anything.

 

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2) what's your take on push-ups during rehearsals? We don't have to do them, but I've heard rumors around the band that we may end up doing them next year if we don't act straight or something.

 

Thanks to those of you who reply =)

[TRtrumpet]

Yes, student and director led sectionals and practices count toward the 8 hour rule, well at least thats what my director said.

 

and about the pushups....

 

If you think think your band needs the dicipline, then there fine. They wont kill you... we dont do them though but we should....

[sax5warrior]

1) yep, it counts in the 8 hour rule if its held at school.

 

2) our band this year if they are talking, then we do 10 pushups, if we talk again, 10 additional pushups. Its part of disipline, this is the 1st year we had to them. What was the result? Reaching finals in a contest after 3 years and straight 1s at UIL. All about disipline.

[Xenon]

Straight from the UIL Website:

 

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Q.  If the drum major or section leader calls an extra rehearsal for individuals or sections of the band will the extra rehearsal count towards the eight hours?

 

A.  Yes.

[Danpod]

That's funny because every band in Texas has sectionals...

 

I don't think push-ups are necessary. The "worst" times I ever had in marching band involved me standing at attention for what seemed like hours in the 100 degree heat.

[bluebellbrass07]

Im pretty sure as long as its not at the school and u dont make it required it doesnt count against the 8 hour rule. i may be wrong/

[sax5warrior]

  bluebellbrass07 said:

Im pretty sure as long as its not at the school and u dont make it required it doesnt count against the 8 hour rule. i may be wrong/

youre right BlueBell

 

 

now i want Blue Bell Ice Cream!

[cookie_monster]

I don't think pushups should be a form of discipline. It takes time out of rehersal and there are better ways to end talking problems on the field. And that's what field officers are for - to manage the discipline on the field when the directors can't. Just my take on it.

[Xenon]

  bluebellbrass07 said:

Im pretty sure as long as its not at the school and u dont make it required it doesnt count against the 8 hour rule. i may be wrong/

Not quite. It doesn't matter where the rehearsal is, it can be at the school or anywhere else. The problem is that if anyone in a position of power (director, drum major, squad leader, upperclassman, etc) called it (or in any way organized it) and required or even "strongly suggested" that you be there, then it counts towards the 8 hours.

[sax5warrior]

  Xenon said:

Not quite. It doesn't matter where the rehearsal is, it can be at the school or anywhere else. The problem is that if anyone in a position of power (director, drum major, squad leader, upperclassman, etc) called it (or in any way organized it) and required or even "strongly suggested" that you be there, then it counts towards the 8 hours.

a certain sectional is at home and it counts as an 8 hour rule? plain stupid. i dont think anyone will even notice about that anyways

[TRtrumpet]

Edited by me dont wanna take a chance!

[Dynasty]

Whoa whoa there is one major technicality that is being missed...

 

Sectionals can still be held as long as its not marching related. That means no marching music or drill is covered. We hold ensembles during marching season for region music, so it doesn't count.

 

And saxwarrior and threevalvecircus, if you go around bragging you break the 8-hour rule, someone who doesn't like your bands will read this and eagerly forward it to UIL.

[Xenon]

  Dynasty said:

Sectionals can still be held as long as its not marching related. That means no marching music or drill is covered. We hold ensembles during marching season for region music, so it doesn't count.

That is correct. The 8-hour rule is 8 hours per activity. Marching Band is one activity, Concert Band is a different activity, Baseball is a different activity, etc.

[TRtrumpet]

Oh ok... well I dont even know if we ever went over 8 hours anyway.

[sax5warrior]

  Dynasty said:

Whoa whoa there is one major technicality that is being missed...

 

Sectionals can still be held as long as its not marching related. That means no marching music or drill is covered. We hold ensembles during marching season for region music, so it doesn't count.

 

And saxwarrior and threevalvecircus, if you go around bragging you break the 8-hour rule, someone who doesn't like your bands will read this and eagerly forward it to UIL.

meh...i doubt someone from the Grand Prairie Band reads this forum

[TRtrumpet]

I know for sure im the only one from my band here... and I have never heard of ANY of the schools I saw on this site till I came here.. but dont wanna take any chances... so..

[sax5warrior]

to complete your phrase Jake...."so ill shut up" lol, i will shut up about this

[Aegis Fang]

so as long as we're not working on drill or show music, I can have a 30 hour sectional? *random number*

[Dynasty]

Like Xenon said, you can have 8 hours per activity.

 

8 Hours for marching.

8 Hours for concert band (region music included).

[bored2damax]

Well our band always has done push ups and last year we started running after we do the warm ups. We didnt do that alot this year.

[Xukaniz]

Our band ran 4 to 5 laps every day before warming up.

[sax5warrior]

wow....we run a lap to warm up but 5 laps? we only do multiple laps for disipline

[TRtrumpet]

Man I wish we did that stuff...

 

Almost NO ONE in my band has ANY dicipline.

[mafia575]

ok so the thing is if a student leader is to call a sectional and the director gives no instruction then it wouldnt go against the 8 hour UIL rule. i know one day almost every section had a rehersal on the same day. as long as there is NO instructor giving help then its ok. talk to the UIL people. they can help you i would think.

[Xenon]

  mafia575 said:

ok so the thing is if a student leader is to call a sectional and the director gives no instruction then it wouldnt go against the 8 hour UIL rule. i know one day almost every section had a rehersal  on the same day. as long as there is NO instructor giving help then its ok. talk to the UIL people.  they can help you i would think.

That is absolutely incorrect.

 

The UIL 8-Hour Rule Q&A can be found here:

 

http://www.uil.utexas.edu/music/eight_hour_qa.html

 

From that document:

 

  UIL 8-Hour Rule Q&A said:

Q. If the drum major or section leader calls an extra rehearsal for individuals or sections of the band will the extra rehearsal count towards the eight hours?

 

A. Yes

You may be getting confused because of this question:

 

  UIL 8-Hour Rule Q&A said:

Q. Does voluntary practice for activities such as all district, all region or all state tryouts count towards the eight hour limitation on marching band rehearsals?

 

A. No

Note that it says that practice for those activities do not count towards the practice limitations placed on Marching Band.

 

The basic guideline is that Individual practice (nobody, not even a squad leader, is coaching you) does not count towards your 8 hours, but any group practice that is geared towards Marching Band does.