josephbandfan Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 4:59 AM, Dave609 said: Prosper lost to a tie to McKinney Boyd to make state. Expand Wow! And Southlake Carroll lost a tie to make state from area B. Both bands going to Grand Nationals. Coincidence? I think not! Quote
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 6:06 AM, slowbrass said: That closer is soooo good. Expand I love that moment where the two triangles join together. Such a terrific big band moment Quote
JFNDOWBFAN Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 5 of 6 state spots coming from block 2 of finals is interesting (granted, the big 3 were there). The finals were definitely loaded. Looking at prelim scores is always interesting to see the discrepancy of how different judges see ands different ways. Proud of how far OWB bent with a generally young band. Would love to see their numbers grow the next two years and see where things for in 2024. Good luck to the 6 moving on. Quote
Dave609 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 6:10 AM, Tubalord11 said: Same just finished!!! OMG THAT CLOSER!!! I’m once again just amazed! HOW ARE THEY THIS GOOD, ITS NOT FAIR!!!! They have already won San Antonio and state, sorry y’all Expand I do have video of Hebron, I'm just not allowed to upload it until the end of the season. Quote
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 3:47 AM, Dave609 said: Here is my predictions after finals- Who I believe will advance to State Hebron Flower Mound Marcus Wylie East Wylie Rock Hill Out of the Top 6- Propser McKinney Boyd Braswell Sachse Lewisville Rockwall Expand You were 5/6 for state qualifiers and 4/12 for finalists placements! Great Job! Quote
KeatonBaritone Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Does any body have video of UNT Green Brigades performance before prelims awards? Quote
Dave609 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 6:39 AM, KeatonBaritone said: Does any body have video of UNT Green Brigades performance before prelims awards? Expand Yes! I will have it up on YouTube later today! KeatonBaritone 1 Quote
mteggatz Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 I just want to shout out Wylie East! The were 7th in prelims so they knew they had to have a great run to move up, and had to play in finals AFTER Flo Mo and Hebron. No pressure there! Quote
Vidal28 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 6:08 AM, Dallas Hobbs said: I Immediately screen recorded this 😩 Expand I just took video while I was there haha Quote
JazzRun Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 4:59 AM, Dave609 said: Prosper lost to a tie to McKinney Boyd to make state. Expand How is the tie broken in UIL? Quote
Dave609 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 4:45 PM, JazzRun said: How is the tie broken in UIL? Expand It was judges preference. McKinney Boyd got a 4 and 5 from the music judges, while one music Judge gave Prosper a 5. JazzRun 1 Quote
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 4:45 PM, JazzRun said: How is the tie broken in UIL? Expand They compare the judges’ ordinals between the tied bands. Whoever had 3 judges rank them higher than the other wins the tiebreaker and is placed higher. In McKinney Boyd’s case, judges 1, 3, and 4 placed them higher than prosper Quote
ReveriesOp24 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Prosper and Sachse were robbed Even though Prosper isn't going to state, I'm still rooting for them at Grand Nationals. #TeamTexas Quote
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Found two more recordings of Hebron’s Area performances Quote
Dave609 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 10:38 PM, Dallas Hobbs said: Found two more recordings of Hebron’s Area performances Expand Those will probably get taken down. I have all footage expect for Hebron and Marcus Up on YouTube! Quote
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 10:44 PM, Dave609 said: Those will probably get taken down. I have all footage expect for Hebron and Marcus Up on YouTube! Expand Yeah that happened quickly 😭. I have an unlisted vid of their boa Dallas prelims performance, as well as some other groups that I’ll upload at the end of the season wef 1 Quote
snares Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Just took a look at results (I need to go look at area H next, I didn't even check results because I assumed Vandy would win but holy cow Vista Ridge!), and man does my heart hurt for Prosper. The tough thing about UIL competitions is that (unless retreat procedure has changed in the last year) because they don't announce actual scores you never really know how close or far you were from qualifying. But then to have to go look at those scores right after results are announced must be so frustrating to see that you were right there and just barely missed it. I am also absolutely shocked at the gaps between Marcus, FloMo, and Hebron. Shocked not meaning I disagree (I wasn't there and am still yet to see Hebron), but shocked a just how far ahead the judges seemed to think Hebron was. I could literally never imagine having to judge 3 absolutely incredible bands like that, but those gaps in the numbers in the subcaptions is something that I just don't think I've seen in the last decade or so from this area. Quote
Samuel Culper Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Scores are really pretty irrelevant. They are a tool. The ordinals tell you everything you need to know about how close something was. Quote
snares Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 12:22 AM, Samuel Culper said: Scores are really pretty irrelevant. They are a tool. The ordinals tell you everything you need to know about how close something was. Expand Normally I would completely agree, and I didn't really do a good job of clarifying when I meant ordinals vs scores in my last comment. But I think at least to an extent, at UIL the scores are usually just arbitrary numbers with equidistant gaps between each band because the judges seem to basically just rank them in ordinals and give them a score from there (that's probably not what they do, but at least it's what it seems, sort of like how percussion is always judged in DCI), but the scores across the board with that big of a gap I think is at least worth noting. Quote
Samuel Culper Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 I would resist the urge to infer from what particular judges are doing with their scores Quote
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 12:38 AM, snares said: equidistant gaps between each band Expand I just learned a new word🤣 Quote
Dave609 Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 12:07 AM, snares said: Just took a look at results (I need to go look at area H next, I didn't even check results because I assumed Vandy would win but holy cow Vista Ridge!), and man does my heart hurt for Prosper. The tough thing about UIL competitions is that (unless retreat procedure has changed in the last year) because they don't announce actual scores you never really know how close or far you were from qualifying. But then to have to go look at those scores right after results are announced must be so frustrating to see that you were right there and just barely missed it. I am also absolutely shocked at the gaps between Marcus, FloMo, and Hebron. Shocked not meaning I disagree (I wasn't there and am still yet to see Hebron), but shocked a just how far ahead the judges seemed to think Hebron was. I could literally never imagine having to judge 3 absolutely incredible bands like that, but those gaps in the numbers in the subcaptions is something that I just don't think I've seen in the last decade or so from this area. Expand Hebron's performance was really good in both Prelims and Finals! They are going after the State Title again if they have the same performances as they did for Area. I can't wait to post the videos at the end of the season so people can get a chance to see their performances! JFNDOWBFAN and snares 2 Quote
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Looking at the scores I noticed that in prelims one music judge awarded Hebron perfect scores in woodwinds, brass and percussion sub-captions. Then, in finals one visual judge gave them a perfect score in content, and one music judge gave them a perfect score in content. As if this group couldn’t get any more impressive Edited October 31, 2022 by Dallas Hobbs Quote
Zaroth Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 If anyone has a video of Hebron's performance they could send me that would be greatly appreciated! Quote
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