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  On 10/30/2022 at 8:58 PM, 1998-2018 said:

I have a long term affiliation with the KISD band programs and have enjoyed watching Timber Creek performances and growing maturity since the school opened. I think the underlying issue in this case may be the specificity of your observation. While it is true that “TC became an area medalist their second appearance in the state qualifiers” this is not particularly surprising in comparison to other things that happened at the competition . It’s also kind of like saying “X  rarely happens on the third day of the seventh month of an odd numbered year.” The reality is Timber Creek has been the Area B runner up (6th place) five or six consecutive years before breaking through (5th place) and advancing to the SMBC last year. Timber Creek has already been a force within Area B for many years. They moved up one place last year. Two more places the next year is extremely satisfying for supporters of the program (like me) but not exactly unprecedented for an up and coming band in the activity. Especially when the band in question has been having such a strong year. Waxahachie’s recent trajectory has been similar.

Consequently more attention has been paid to the judges sheets and how the preliminary and final rankings for all the bands were actually determined.

Consensus, continuity, and consistency did not appear to rule the day.

Having said that I don’t have a problem with who is advancing, even if my personal selections would have been slightly different. I really just wish there was room for a couple more. 

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Given the propensity to apply Olympic level scaffolding to name recognition in marching band- I’d say it’s markedly more interesting.  

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  On 10/30/2022 at 9:51 PM, Gehrig4 said:

Given the propensity to apply Olympic level scaffolding to name recognition in marching band- I’d say it’s markedly more interesting.  

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I need some help with clarification, please. The intended meaning of your reply eludes me. 🤔

Edit: Wait…are you referring to the proverbial medal podium? Sure, that’s cool and it is Area B so it could help add to their reputation but are you forgetting they already have a BOA Regional win too? Don’t people already know who they are?

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  On 10/30/2022 at 5:25 AM, Dallas Hobbs said:

Same thing happened when I predicted this order: Lake Highlands> Martin > Berkner. Inaccurate for prelims, accurate for finals 

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I also correctly predicted this ordering:  Highland Park > Haltom > JJ Pearce. They weren’t finalists but they were 14th-16th respectively. 

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  On 10/31/2022 at 5:32 AM, Dallas Hobbs said:

Can someone explain what the “content” sub-caption means in music and visual?

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In a traditional context it means difficulty and level of achievement combined. You can have the hardest possible thing written, but if it is higher than the capability of your students you won’t get credit for it. Also if everything is too easy then your score won’t be as high either.

UIL is known for weird scoring, so they might not even do it this way.

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  On 10/31/2022 at 11:56 AM, littlejaw said:

In a traditional context it means difficulty and level of achievement combined. You can have the hardest possible thing written, but if it is higher than the capability of your students you won’t get credit for it. Also if everything is too easy then your score won’t be as high either.

UIL is known for weird scoring, so they might not even do it this way.

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Actually, I think it is purely difficulty scored on the achievability of your students. All of the other scores show the execution whereas content will be only difficulty. But again only difficulty that is achievable by your students and also not too easy.

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  On 10/30/2022 at 11:50 PM, 1998-2018 said:

I need some help with clarification, please. The intended meaning of your reply eludes me. 🤔

Edit: Wait…are you referring to the proverbial medal podium? Sure, that’s cool and it is Area B so it could help add to their reputation but are you forgetting they already have a BOA Regional win too? Don’t people already know who they are?

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I’m saying that name recognition, similarly to gymnastics and ice skating in the Olympics clearly provides scaffolding for schools’ programs in competitions.     It’s difficult to crack and it’s difficult to fall out.    I’m not saying it can’t be done - nor am I saying it’s unfair- but I AM saying that listing rising schools’ achievements- however banal to you, is indeed meaningful and an important metric.   :)

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  On 10/31/2022 at 5:38 PM, moneyman said:

Thoughts on Waxahachie?

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I mean what more can I say. Like with Dville, I'm a little biased towards them since I used to compete with those kids at region and was really good friends with a lot of them. With that said, Waxahachie carries themselves with so much proffesionalism and elegance with their show (Building Paris) this year being a prime example of that. They consistently play difficult music all while making it sound easy and they're able to do that because of how well the fundamentals are taught over there. Their soloists are also consistently stellar and they move incredibly well as well. Waxahachie is a program I'd keep my eye on as they won't be going away any time soon and they're only going to get better from here. 

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  On 10/31/2022 at 5:38 PM, moneyman said:

Thoughts on Waxahachie?

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Terrific musical skillsets all around, especially when played simultaneously with their choreography. They perform exceptionally well in extended phrases and are very clean marchers considering the complexity or their drill moves and formations. Great dynamic contrast, great balance and blend of voices, superb quality of sound in the upper register in the woodwinds. Lots of great stuff from Waxahachie 

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Coppell was amazing!  Such a fantastic band.

Keller was much better in prelims than finals I thought.  They were better at DMI the week before IMO as well.  They had the amazing misfortune of having to go first in prelims AND finals.  I would imagine that with a better run and later in the show that their placement would have been higher given how close the scores ended up being, but who knows.

 

 

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Coppell was stunning! Their ensemble sound is very dark and sonorous with great balance and clarity between all of the instruments. Having listened to both, it reminds a lot of Marcus’ sound but if you were to make it sound a bit more brilliant and a bit less reserved. Visual cleanliness was also very good and was leaps and bounds ahead of their last showing at BOA Dallas. I’d personally see them as locks for state finals with a very solid chance at making the top half.

Keller was also very, very good. While the other state advancing bands were absolutely wonderful in their own right, I personally had Keller getting second and was a little surprised to see them get fourth.

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  On 10/31/2022 at 9:26 PM, BandDad4 said:

TC has been chasing Keller for some time, they have a chance for finals I think after this past weekend.

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I think so as well. TC was ahead of keller in prelims and finals so I think it would be safe to say that TC will stay above keller in terms of uil, that is unless keller gets stupid clean in the span of just this week. Their show might not have nearly the amount of musical content that keller’s has but they’re playing the snot out of it and they sound gooooooood.

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Coppell was fantastic on all fronts. While I'm not crazy about the show, they really were the clear winner. I believe their rifle line alone was bigger than all of Keller's guard this year 😩

I saw recordings of Keller's halftime on Thursday and their prelims run, and their finals run was definitely the least solid. A couple of somewhat major blunders, musically and visually, that had me a little worried about how they'd place. That combined with performing first,  I really couldn't argue against their placement. Just happy they could advance and get another opportunity to give their best. And each week, I have noticed changes in either the drill, visuals, music, soloist, and guard which I love because they are constantly trying to improve their show, even if it means they aren't as clean at each competition.

 

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  On 10/31/2022 at 9:28 PM, RandomBandGuy23 said:

Keller was also very, very good. While the other state advancing bands were absolutely wonderful in their own right, I personally had Keller getting second and was a little surprised to see them get fourth.

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Agreed. But they have been doing this dance with Waxahachie for several years now and after breaking through last year, Timber Creek has been playing with new found confidence this year. There is no longer anything tentative about their performances and it has made a huge difference.

I look forward to seeing all three in Finals at the SMBC. Yeah, Coppell too, so that makes four.

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  On 10/31/2022 at 10:09 PM, cjm715 said:

I think so as well. TC was ahead of keller in prelims and finals so I think it would be safe to say that TC will stay above keller in terms of uil, that is unless keller gets stupid clean in the span of just this week. Their show might not have nearly the amount of musical content that keller’s has but they’re playing the snot out of it and they sound gooooooood.

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