UIL Area B 2022

[VinoGirl]

I think after BOA last weekend, Martin has to be in this mix too! 

[VinoGirl]

  On 10/3/2022 at 3:10 PM, Trumpetmaster728 said:

Early predictions for area b,I  believe 6 bands make state at this comp so i will go based off that.

1.Keller (state)

2.Coppel (state)

3.Keller central (state)

4.Lake RIdge (state)

5.LD Bell (state)

6.Waxa (state)

7.TImber creek 

8.Haltom

9.Duncanville

10.POSSIBLE lake highlands

Definitely could see top 6 switching around a lot with highland park and everyone being there. Doubt highland park will beat lake ridge since they didn't at preview of champions. With keller central beating Lake RIdge i believe they will do it again this competition. Keller and Coppel are locks, this is the most competitive area in 6a I would say. LD bell could definitely swap around, there band has always been very good all around but with more bands rising up in skill i'm not sure how they will do. Always haven't liked this area due to the bands in it, and also how many bands there is in the competition. Plus judging is all over the place in terms of UIL judging. I will be very happy to see my top 6 make state, as they all deserve it.

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I will say that HP ended up besting Aledo at BOA last weekend, which won Mansfield, so I'm not sure Mansfield is a super good barometer. That being said, I think Lake Ridge is having a great year, and I expect to see them in finals and in the hunt for the state bid for sure! 

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/10/2022 at 11:34 PM, CosmicLimbo said:

Tell me about it. I'm a Dville 2020 alumni and competing in this area was always incredibly stressful and nerveracking just because of how hard it is and how badly each of these groups want to succeed. Especially in 2018 when all chaos broke loose on this forum following the finals results. Good times

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I’m a Desoto high school and LD Bell alumnus. I graduated from Desoto in 2018. I went to Bell for a brief period(2016 season, long story lol) so I’m rooting for two programs! I think both did well last year. I’m hoping bell can advance and Desoto can at least move up in the prelims rankings from last year.

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/3/2022 at 9:39 PM, LostChoirGuy said:

I'd be surprised to not see Southlake Carroll or Highland Park in the top 10.  

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I think Highland park was a perennial state participant in conf. 5A so they definitely have a good shot here. they always sound super professional on the field. Was surprised to see they moved up to 6A this year! 😱

[peshbandkid]

Post BOA Dallas predictions 

1-2: Coppell, Keller

Although Coppell was ahead at Dallas, Keller still has a lot of cleaning to do so they'll be up here 

3-5: Waxahachie, Timber Creek, L.D. Bell

Bell really surprised me at Dallas this past weekend. I hope they can keep up their momentum and keep cleaning to get back to state. Waxahachie and Timber Creek will likely move up in my opinion.

6-8: Southlake Carroll, Keller Central, Duncanville

Carroll will be better than what they did at Dallas, so I do anticipate them to move up here. Keller Central should contend for state and based on what I have seen of Duncanville, they look better than last season and could possibly fight for state spot

9-12: Haltom, Highland Park, Lake Ridge, James Martin

Martin did make finals at Dallas, but there are no guarantees. Lake Ridge is very strong this year, as well as HP and Haltom. Honestly, I could see any combination of two schools here

[Tubalord11]

Here’s my guess after last weekend:

1st: Coppell 

2nd Waxahachie(yes I believe they will overtake Keller here. This show is fantastic and they are gonna do great things this year)

3rd Keller 

4th: Timber Creek 

5th: Southlake/Bell 

6th: Southlake/Bell

7th: Keller Centeal 

8th: Lake Ridge 

9th: Ducanville  

10th: Haltom  

11th: Martin 

12th: HP

[Efrin]

So many excellent bands in Area B!  My sleeper pick for Area Finals this year is Lake Highlands. 

Reagan Brumley (former Director of Bands at Highland Park, 2011-2020) is now in his 2nd year at LH.  He and his excellent staff are building a great program with some super-dedicated students. 

LH was 9th in Area B prelims last year.  I was able to see them perform a couple weeks ago at the Midlothian contest.  So impressive.  They seemed to be well ahead of where they were at the same time last year - and with a more demanding book.   Will be interesting to see where they finish at the Duncanville invitational. 

[crunchycookie3]

As of tonight, we have the first round of bands advancing to Area B contest!

Arlington, Cedar Hill, Lake Ridge, Legacy, Mansfield, Martin, Paschal, SGP, Boswell, Keller Central, Chisholm Trail, Fossil Ridge, Keller, North Crowley, Timber Creek, and Weatherford!

That's 16 bands, guaranteeing at least 3 bands advancing to state from this area. Over the next week and a half, we'll hear results from regions 31 and 20 to finish out this area. That leaves Berkner, DeSoto, Duncanville, Highland Park, Irving, Lake Highlands, MacArthur, Nimitz, JJ Pearce, Richardson, Skyline, Waxahachie, Carroll, Coppell, Haltom, LD Bell, and Trinity for next week's region contests. 14 of these bands need to advance in order for Area B to send 6 to state. If 4 or more of these bands do not get a 1, then we'll only see 5 advance. Seeing 6 advance would be great, but that would still leave this as likely the most cut-throat area in the state.

[Tubalord11]

I’d say I feel like everyone from the group could!!! Don’t knock about skyline and MacAruthor, I could see Nimitz maybe getting a 2 after seeing their show live, But I’d be surprised. I think we will be seeing six to state :))

[jm3123282]

  On 10/11/2022 at 6:29 PM, Efrin said:

So many excellent bands in Area B!  My sleeper pick for Area Finals this year is Lake Highlands. 

Reagan Brumley (former Director of Bands at Highland Park, 2011-2020) is now in his 2nd year at LH.  He and his excellent staff are building a great program with some super-dedicated students. 

LH was 9th in Area B prelims last year.  I was able to see them perform a couple weeks ago at the Midlothian contest.  So impressive.  They seemed to be well ahead of where they were at the same time last year - and with a more demanding book.   Will be interesting to see where they finish at the Duncanville invitational. 

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My sleeper pick would definitely be lake ridge. Although being talked about a lot this year as I’ve seen, I was able to watch their show tonight at the region contest. All I could say was wow, they were performing at an insanely high level and even left with other bands amazed. From what I had heard that night after hearing other bands, it’s very easy to tell rankings. Lake ridge is definitely in the bubbles for finals and I simply cannot wait for this competition.

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/12/2022 at 2:37 AM, crunchycookie3 said:

As of tonight, we have the first round of bands advancing to Area B contest!

Arlington, Cedar Hill, Lake Ridge, Legacy, Mansfield, Martin, Paschal, SGP, Boswell, Keller Central, Chisholm Trail, Fossil Ridge, Keller, North Crowley, Timber Creek, and Weatherford!

That's 16 bands, guaranteeing at least 3 bands advancing to state from this area. Over the next week and a half, we'll hear results from regions 31 and 20 to finish out this area. That leaves Berkner, DeSoto, Duncanville, Highland Park, Irving, Lake Highlands, MacArthur, Nimitz, JJ Pearce, Richardson, Skyline, Waxahachie, Carroll, Coppell, Haltom, LD Bell, and Trinity for next week's region contests. 14 of these bands need to advance in order for Area B to send 6 to state. If 4 or more of these bands do not get a 1, then we'll only see 5 advance. Seeing 6 advance would be great, but that would still leave this as likely the most cut-throat area in the state.

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I love how closely we’re watching the results in the area. And how meticulously we’re analyzing the competition to determine what needs to happen for our satisfaction!😂

[Vidal28]

4 6A bands in Region 5 failed to get a one☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/13/2022 at 3:47 PM, Vidal28 said:

4 6A bands in Region 5 failed to get a one☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

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Have all of the Area B 6A bands performed at region yet? How many have made a 1 so far?

[Samuel Culper]

  On 10/13/2022 at 3:47 PM, Vidal28 said:

4 6A bands in Region 5 failed to get a one☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

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Yikes!

[Dallas Hobbs]

About the judges scores at Area: Can a judge give two bands the same score, and consequently the same ranking? Or do they have to break that tie? 
 

for example can judge A give Band x and Band y a score of 934 points or is the judge prohibited from giving a tied score?

I ask this because sometimes I’ll see scores like Band x gets a 853 and Band y gets a 852, and I’m like “can the judges really detect a 1 point difference between the bands or are they just prohibited from making tied scores?” 

[Vidal28]

  On 10/13/2022 at 4:08 PM, Samuel Culper said:

Yikes!

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3 of them in my former home school school district, I am quite sad for that fact

[Vidal28]

  On 10/13/2022 at 3:50 PM, Dallas Hobbs said:

Have all of the Area B 6A bands performed at region yet? How many have made a 1 so far?

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Only regions 5 and 30 have had their region contests with 20 and 31 going next week I believe. Every 6A group in region 30 made a 1 and did their part thankfully.

[Vidal28]

  On 10/13/2022 at 5:01 PM, Jacob2017 said:

So far, only Regions 5 and 30 have competed. In 5, out of 12 bands, 7 will move forward to Area. In 30, all 8 will move forward.

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I could’ve sworn for Region 5, I saw 4 groups from 6A not advance, not 5. I’ve looked over the results quite a few times, but maybe I’m just missing it over and over👀

[Jacob2017]

  On 10/13/2022 at 5:03 PM, Vidal28 said:

Only regions 5 and 30 have had their region contests with 20 and 31 going next week I believe. Every 6A group in region 30 made a 1 and did their part thankfully.

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Was really surprised about Lamar and Bowie. From what I remember of them, they were pretty consistently performing at Area. 

[Jacob2017]

  On 10/13/2022 at 5:05 PM, Vidal28 said:

I could’ve sworn for Region 5, I saw 4 groups from 6A not advance, not 5. I’ve looked over the results quite a few times, but maybe I’m just missing it over and over👀

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You were right, I read the scores for Paschal wrong, thought they got 1,2,2.

[Vidal28]

  On 10/13/2022 at 5:05 PM, Jacob2017 said:

Was really surprised about Lamar and Bowie. From what I remember of them, they were pretty consistently performing at Area. 

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Would have to see a performance of theirs, see what happened

[Vidal28]

  On 10/13/2022 at 4:26 PM, Dallas Hobbs said:

About the judges scores at Area: Can a judge give two bands the same score, and consequently the same ranking? Or do they have to break that tie? 
 

for example can judge A give Band x and Band y a score of 934 points or is the judge prohibited from giving a tied score?

I ask this because sometimes I’ll see scores like Band x gets a 853 and Band y gets a 852, and I’m like “can the judges really detect a 1 point difference between the bands or are they just prohibited from making tied scores?” 

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I believe the three digit number matters much less than the single digit ordinal ranking that results from that number. Several judges’ may have different scaling and ranges when rating schools, at least from what I’ve seen. Like, one of the music judges could have a band scored at a 909, but still have them ranked 6th overall, whereas the next judge over has a band with a score of 915 and they’re ranked 3rd. The only numbers that matter are the “6” and “3” despite the three digit score being so close. I imagine that’s why the “tied score affecting rankings” scenario doesn’t really happen, judges just scale things differently

[Samuel Culper]

  On 10/13/2022 at 5:14 PM, Vidal28 said:

I believe the three digit number matters much less than the single digit ordinal ranking that results from that number. Several judges’ may have different scaling and ranges when rating schools, at least from what I’ve seen. Like, one of the music judges could have a band scored at a 909, but still have them ranked 6th overall, whereas the next judge over has a band with a score of 915 and they’re ranked 3rd. The only numbers that matter are the “6” and “3” despite the three digit score being so close. I imagine that’s why the “tied score affecting rankings” scenario doesn’t really happen, judges just scale things differently

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This is correct.  The ordinals are the only thing that really matters.

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/13/2022 at 5:14 PM, Vidal28 said:

I believe the three digit number matters much less than the single digit ordinal ranking that results from that number. Several judges’ may have different scaling and ranges when rating schools, at least from what I’ve seen. Like, one of the music judges could have a band scored at a 909, but still have them ranked 6th overall, whereas the next judge over has a band with a score of 915 and they’re ranked 3rd. The only numbers that matter are the “6” and “3” despite the three digit score being so close. I imagine that’s why the “tied score affecting rankings” scenario doesn’t really happen, judges just scale things differently

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Thank you for the response. You explained why two different judges are unlikely to give the same score to a band very well which was informative, however I wanted to know why one particular judge oftentimes doesn’t give tied scores in their own rankings. Like why does judge 1 score Band X an 853 and Band Y an 852? Can they really tell a 1 point difference or are they prohibited from giving two different bands the same score? I’ve never seen one judge give two bands the same score/ranking. 

[Vidal28]

  On 10/13/2022 at 5:33 PM, Dallas Hobbs said:

Thank you for the response. You explained why two different judges are unlikely to give the same score to a band very well which was informative, however I wanted to know why one particular judge oftentimes doesn’t give tied scores in their own rankings. Like why does judge 1 score Band X an 853 and Band Y an 852? Can they really tell a 1 point difference or are they prohibited from giving two different bands the same score? I’ve never seen one judge give two bands the same score/ranking. 

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Most easy answer to that, someone has to be above/below someone else. For the sake of the rankings.