Tubalord11 Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 1:51 AM, madismom said: It’s random actually Expand okay. But you see, Area F apparently did reverse prelims placement for finals, and if you look at area C, Forney defiantly won prelims, and yet they are going first. Yes I could be wrong, but I don't know it's just seeming to add up all to easy imo Quote
bneat324 Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 Finals Results 10th Memorial 9th LoveJoy 8th Centennial 7th Liberty 6th Independence 5th The Colony 4th Argyle 3rd McN 2nd Lebanon Trail 1st Lone Star Quote
Tubalord11 Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 2:48 AM, bneat324 said: Finals Results 10th Memorial 9th LoveJoy 8th Centennial 7th Liberty 6th Independence 5th The Colony 4th Argyle 3rd McN 2nd Lebanon Trail 1st Lone Star Expand I am so confused right now??? Lovejoy went from 5th to 9th, Argyle 10th to 4th???? And Centennial 8th? Idk there has been something about this area for the last few years that doesn't add up. All my friends at Lojo were saying their best run yet and the get 9th. Something needs to change. Noop 1 Quote
Tubalord11 Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 But congrats to all! Happy to see some new faces in finals (first time or was out last couple cycles ) It's probably the hardest 5A area, so I guess seeing stuff like this happen kind of makes sense, it's just so many large changes from prelims to finals Quote
Richard98 Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 1:55 AM, Tubalord11 said: okay. But you see, Area F apparently did reverse prelims placement for finals, and if you look at area C, Forney defiantly won prelims, and yet they are going first. Yes I could be wrong, but I don't know it's just seeming to add up all to easy imo Expand It was drawn Tubalord11 1 Quote
Texanbird Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 2:53 AM, Tubalord11 said: I am so confused right now??? Lovejoy went from 5th to 9th, Argyle 10th to 4th???? And Centennial 8th? Idk there has been something about this area for the last few years that doesn't add up. All my friends at Lojo were saying their best run yet and the get 9th. Something needs to change. Expand The order they performed in final was random, it’s not opposite of what they placed in prelims. Tubalord11 1 Quote
Dave609 Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 Alright, so here is prelim results- 1 McKinney North HS 2 Lebanon Trail HS 3 Lone Star HS 4 The Colony HS 5 Lovejoy HS 6 Independence HS 7 Liberty HS 8 Argyle HS 9 Frisco Centennial HS 10 Frisco Memorial HS 11 Frisco HS 12 Sherman HS 13 Reedy HS 14 Frisco Heritage HS 15 Princeton HS 16 Denton HS 17 Ryan HS 18 Lake Dallas HS So McKinney North was in first in prelims and dropped to 3rd. Argyle went from 8th to 4th, Lovejoy went from 5th to 9th, Lone Star went from 3rd to 1st, The Colony moved from 4th to 5th, and Frisco Centennial moved from 9th to 8th. Overall, interesting placements from Prelims VS Finals! JazzRun 1 Quote
Tubalord11 Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 3:52 AM, Dave609 said: Alright, so here is prelim results- 1 McKinney North HS 2 Lebanon Trail HS 3 Lone Star HS 4 The Colony HS 5 Lovejoy HS 6 Independence HS 7 Liberty HS 8 Argyle HS 9 Frisco Centennial HS 10 Frisco Memorial HS 11 Frisco HS 12 Sherman HS 13 Reedy HS 14 Frisco Heritage HS 15 Princeton HS 16 Denton HS 17 Ryan HS 18 Lake Dallas HS So McKinney North was in first in prelims and dropped to 3rd. Argyle went from 8th to 4th, Lovejoy went from 5th to 9th, Lone Star went from 3rd to 1st, The Colony moved from 4th to 5th, and Frisco Centennial moved from 9th to 8th. Overall, interesting placements from Prelims VS Finals! Expand Yeah, definitely some major changes... wouldn't be surprised if better weather was a big factor Quote
Jar Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 Anyone have a breakdown of all the judges/scores for finals? Quote
VannerS Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 3:42 PM, Jar said: Anyone have a breakdown of all the judges/scores for finals? Expand Link to full recap: https://recaps.competitionsuite.com/cf277ff0-fd49-4564-be54-5ef9b479da59.htm Jar 1 Quote
tennertrumbow Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 congrats to everyone who performed yesterday! btw mckinney north WE LOVED YOUR SHOW IT WAS SO COOL from lone star LisbethMom 1 Quote
Popular Post Tubalord11 Posted October 23, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 4:30 PM, tennertrumbow said: congrats to everyone who performed yesterday! btw mckinney north WE LOVED YOUR SHOW IT WAS SO COOL from lone star Expand Congrats on yall's first area win, was defiantly deserved!!! Lonestar is getting so good and will be a threat to reckon with for many years to come. VannerS, pushand1, Bandtastic and 3 others 6 Quote
tpresley Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 Not that it matters now but I heard yesterday from a band mom who is a friend of one of the area directors. That friend told her that it was another area B director who complained about Wakeland going over the time limit. That would explain the change from 1 to 2 the next day. Quote
LisbethMom Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 8:00 PM, tpresley said: Not that it matters now but I heard yesterday from a band mom who is a friend of one of the area directors. That friend told her that it was another area B director who complained about Wakeland going over the time limit. That would explain the change from 1 to 2 the next day. Expand I heard there where multiple people that complained, with right. No need to start a witch hunt. Bandtastic 1 Quote
littlejaw Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 8:00 PM, tpresley said: Not that it matters now but I heard yesterday from a band mom who is a friend of one of the area directors. That friend told her that it was another area B director who complained about Wakeland going over the time limit. That would explain the change from 1 to 2 the next day. Expand People gossip about things they’ve “heard” all the time. They went over time and it was their fault. Quote
tpresley Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 True. Rules are rules. And no witch hunt, just stating what I heard. Quote
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 3:52 AM, Dave609 said: Alright, so here is prelim results- 1 McKinney North HS 2 Lebanon Trail HS 3 Lone Star HS 4 The Colony HS 5 Lovejoy HS 6 Independence HS 7 Liberty HS 8 Argyle HS 9 Frisco Centennial HS 10 Frisco Memorial HS 11 Frisco HS 12 Sherman HS 13 Reedy HS 14 Frisco Heritage HS 15 Princeton HS 16 Denton HS 17 Ryan HS 18 Lake Dallas HS So McKinney North was in first in prelims and dropped to 3rd. Argyle went from 8th to 4th, Lovejoy went from 5th to 9th, Lone Star went from 3rd to 1st, The Colony moved from 4th to 5th, and Frisco Centennial moved from 9th to 8th. Overall, interesting placements from Prelims VS Finals! Expand On 10/23/2022 at 3:53 AM, Tubalord11 said: Yeah, definitely some major changes... wouldn't be surprised if better weather was a big factor Expand It looks to me that the discrepancies were caused by the changes in judges between prelims and finals. Two of the music judges switched with the two visual judges so that can cause a change in scores/rankings. Plus the lone music judge who did music for both prelims and finals had some changes in their opinion as well. And any improvements or drop in the quality of their performance may have had affects as well. Quote
Tubalord11 Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 9:38 PM, Dallas Hobbs said: It looks to me that the discrepancies were caused by the changes in judges between prelims and finals. Two of the music judges switched with the two visual judges so that can cause a change in scores/rankings. Plus the lone music judge who did music for both prelims and finals had some changes in their opinion as well. And any improvements or drop in the quality of their performance may have had affects as well. Expand Yeah I saw pretty much all the finals on YouTube and everyone who went up had a better final run and vis-verses Quote
Niceone Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 Interesting to see that if this was a state year. Argyle would go from being so dominant at 4a state to not even making 5a state. Dallas Hobbs 1 Quote
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 10:11 PM, Niceone said: Interesting to see that if this was a state year. Argyle would go from being so dominant at 4a state to not even making 5a state. Expand The higher up the conferences you go, the more competitive it gets!🥵 RaElk99 1 Quote
Dave609 Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 10:11 PM, Niceone said: Interesting to see that if this was a state year. Argyle would go from being so dominant at 4a state to not even making 5a state. Expand They would have sent 4 bands to state, 20 qualified for this area, so that means Argyle would have advanced to their first 5A state contest Quote
Tubalord11 Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 1:08 AM, Dave609 said: They would have sent 4 bands to state, 20 qualified for this area, so that means Argyle would have advanced to their first 5A state contest Expand yes but we do have to forget about Wakeland, and I'm NOT trying to start drama, but I think we could all agree that they would have been here if this was a state year Quote
Dave609 Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 1:16 AM, Tubalord11 said: yes but we do have to forget about Wakeland, and I'm NOT trying to start drama, but I think we could all agree that they would have been here if this was a state year Expand I agree with you 100% that had Wakeland been here and this was a State Year, then most likely, Argyle would have missed state for the first time ever (they have been a State Qualifer since 2003). Quote
LetsGoBrandon Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 2:53 AM, Tubalord11 said: I am so confused right now??? Lovejoy went from 5th to 9th, Argyle 10th to 4th???? And Centennial 8th? Idk there has been something about this area for the last few years that doesn't add up. All my friends at Lojo were saying their best run yet and the get 9th. Something needs to change. Expand I heard from some people who judged in contests before say they really just pick the bands they know will make finals and just place them randomly because prelims doesn't really matter and there's a lot of bands and scoring everyone in a detailed way would be hard and take forever and there are some groups that are just not nearly as good as the ones making finals. For those schools that make it to a contest like area, the feedback to them are what's most important to them, not knowing that they scored 3rd to last place or something like that. Tubalord11 and VannerS 2 Quote
Popular Post windypendyww Posted October 24, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted October 24, 2022 late response but congrats everyone! i’m from independence and we were within 2 ordinal points of argyle. hoping to do even better next year and possibly make state for the first time! mckinney north has to be the most awesome show i’ve ever seen, and i’ve seen bands like hebron and flomo. just incredible show design and so much brass power for a small band. peshbandkid, PenguinGuy, Richard98 and 3 others 6 Quote
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